As the story is told, the FBI (federal govt) contacted the safe manufacturer and asked for a secret code that would open the safe. The FBI had a search warrant for the premises. Liberty Safe Co. gave the FBI the access code that would allow them to open the safe, without relying on (or asking) the owner to open it.
-WiscoDave
Every kind of computer system, mechanical/electronic system in the planet has a back door. Who's to say you get a new safe and that company happens to cave also.
ReplyDeleteJust replace the electronic lock with an "S and G" mechanical...any good locksmith can order and install one for you. Never needs batteries...
DeleteLIBERTY, LIBERTY,... L I B E R T Y!
People should not have to get rid of the Liberty safes, instead, someone, or a company, or whatever, should make replacement locking systems for them.
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DeleteGun Free Zone blogs tells who the owners of Liberty are far leftists.
ReplyDeletethese dudes sell a combination retrofit
ReplyDeletehttps://sargentandgreenleaf.com
I dont have a gun safe because my guns were lost in the boat fire.
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DeleteMine too!! Same boat maybe
DeleteOr you could have a safe without back door and the feds cut it to pieces to get in. If they have a warrant, they are getting in one way or another
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DeleteElectronic safes are to be avoided, for this reason and several others.
ReplyDeleteI have seen the locking mechanism of several mechanical combination locks and have never seen more than one slot in each layer, meaning there is only one combination that will open it, and that can be changed from the factory setting.
Ed
I agree that Liberty should have stayed out of it, but a warrant is a warrant and they probably saved destruction of the safe and damage to the contents
Liberty wasn't named in the warrant so, not bound by it. It's the owner's decision to make, not Liberty's.
DeleteAnd the owner obviously refused to open it if the feds called Liberty.
DeleteCalling BS on that, the feds wouldn't call liberty to gain entrance to a safe. They would get a locksmith with knowledge of the safe' construction to drill it.
DeleteTry doing a little more research before calling bullshit on it. Liberty Safe released a statement admitting they did it and why.
DeleteAnd the list of collaborators gets longer each and every day.
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ReplyDeleteLiberty gives a backdoor for Law Enforcement to get in. This means that the unnamed three letter agencies can also get in - not to get your guns but rather to leave some 'evidence' in your locked safe. Imagine going to court where they present evidence from the safe only you have the combination to proving you have a murder weapon, child porn, or drugs.
ReplyDeleteLiberty is off my list of safe manufactures to buy from in the coming years; I'll probably get an AMSEC. I posted this news to some non-gun communities that also regularly use safes and it spread like wildfire. For electronic locks, they pop up with a little force and the serial numbers are on a sticker. Remove the stickers from the back of the lock and there is nothing to match a backdoor code to anymore.
ReplyDeleteWhat's up with all the comments removed by admin? Or is that just house-keeping due to a sensitive topic and all comments to this post will be nuked?
I didn't remove them, the site must've hiccupped or something. I did a post on it.
DeleteS&G mechanical on mine. Tricky even if you have the combination.
ReplyDeletei think we've got its attention
ReplyDeleteSo every Liberty Safe owner needs to download a copy of Hunter's laptop hard drive and...
ReplyDeleteWell obviously somebody doesn't want us to comment on this subject.... Fuck Em
ReplyDeleteLiberty safes are owned by a liberal left coast investment firm that supports gun control..
They have given over $ 400,000 to liberal candidates and gun control groups.
JD
read his other posts:
DeletewirecutterSeptember 7, 2023 at 4:20 PM
I didn't remove them, the site must've hiccupped or something. I did a post on it.
I saw that post, just kinda funny how this happened on this particular day on what 2 posts...... I'm not a conspiracy theorist but it seems pretty weird to me
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I had to go out of town that day and when I returned a few hours later, I had 106 comments waiting. Those were the ones that disappeared after I approved and posted them. The comments earlier in the day and the ones afterwards weren't affected for some reason.
DeleteAll good Kenny, I was mostly joking anyway.
DeleteEnjoy your weekend and get away from the damn computer
JD
According to local locksmith….
ReplyDeleteAll digital safes have an emergency factory code….
but he or you can change it….
so you’ll have two (2) personal codes or….
~$300 + labor….he’ll install a mechanical dial lock.
Ed357
The problem with mechanical locks is the time it takes to get in.
DeleteWhich is an argument for carrying a gun at all times, or at least having one laying around.
DeleteOnly mechanical locks on mine. They *may* be able to circumvent them, but not with a back door code as is possible with electronic ones.
ReplyDeleteWhile trying to come out as the good guys by offering an "opt-out" agreement for them to not keep the code. Although when you can't get in and call them for assistance, they will remind you of that waiver and hang up.
ReplyDeleteIf the Feds want to get in your safe they are going to get into it. Doesn't matter if the manufacturer cooperates or not. If necessary they'll torch it open though I'm sure they'd prefer to not risk damaging any "evidence". But they will do whatever is required. And likely send the safe owner the bill for the safe cracking job.
ReplyDeleteThat's fine. Make them work for it.
DeleteThe simple fact of the matter is the safe no longer belonged to the manufacturer so they had no right or reason to give the code to anybody but the owner. That's like me selling you a car and then giving the spare key to anybody that asks.
I hope Liberty and their new liberal woke owners get the Bud Lite treatment
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