Wednesday, November 30, 2011

In case you don't hear from me again

I saw this over at Sipsey Street Irregulars this morning when I was getting my morning coffee and dose of Right Wing energy boost.
The comment at the bottom of the post belong to the Dutchman.


If you had told me even a month ago that I would be mirroring an ad from the DNC while praying for an Obama veto, I'd have said you were crazy.
Senate defies Obama veto threat in terrorist custody vote.
Defying a veto threat by President Obama, the Senate voted Tuesday to give the U.S. military first crack at holding al Qaeda operatives, even if they are captured in the U.S. and are American citizens, and also reaffirmed the policy of indefinite detention.
“We’re no longer going to have an absurd result that if we capture you overseas where you’re planning an attack on the United States, we can blow you up or put you in a military prison indefinitely, but if you make it to America, all of a sudden you get Miranda rights and you go to federal court,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican who has fought the Bush and Obama administrations on treatment of suspected terrorist detainees.
Tuesday’s 61-37 vote to buck Mr. Obama and grant the military dibs exposed a deep rift within the Democratic Party. Sixteen Democrats and one independent who caucuses with them defied the veto threat and joined 44 Republicans.

Does anybody here seriously think that there is anything in this bill preventing the Obama White House from having the military kidnap troublesome guys like me, secretly, in the dead of night, putting black hoods on our heads, and taking them off to Guantanamo, without hearing or trial? Nothing will prevent it except one thing: the copper-jacketed promise that if the rule of law no longer obtains then the rule of the rifle has obviously begun. Unintended consequences? Perhaps. Stupid? Certainly. Possible? Oh, yes.


Grumpyunk said...

Nope. Nothing good is gonna come out of this BS. Politicians fuck around putting bills like this out to stake out a claim on being for law and order or to box in an opponent with no thought on how this shit will play out in the real world. Not to mention this adds an air of legality to what's coming for us out here.

Does it seem like much of a coincidence that this bill is run through right at the same time that a bunch of Internet Censorship bills are being considered?

Howie Honky said...

Mike - my dear friend and fellow yellowhammer - is too optimistic. If anyone is snatched, they will NOT go to Gitmo. It will either be to a non-existent location in a muslim raghead hellhole, or to an unmarked grave. Gitmo would have too many patriots who would,KNOW who they had and treat him with honor.
However - anyone contemplating actions against any three per enter might wish to re-read the article on One Hundred Heads.

Tattoo Jim said...

I kind of suspect you'd actually wind up on a "farm" somewhere up in Virginia Kenny... the "agency" seems to have quite a few of them around the state...