The world has united in protest after a graphic video emerged showing a Black man dying under the restraint of a White police officer. The victim, George Floyd, was in clear distress. He was pinned to the ground by three officers, with one officer — Derek Chauvin — placing a knee on his neck. For over five minutes, he tells the officers that he is unable to breathe. George Floyd died as horrified bystanders told the officers they were killing him.
The video is unquestionably horrific.
But in our rush to condemn an aggressive use of force and pursue justice for George Floyd, we have ignored crucial information which is necessary in judging the conduct of the officers. While nothing can absolve George Floyd’s death, these facts do cast doubt on the appropriateness of a murder charge for Chauvin, and paint a more nuanced picture of the events leading up to the tragic encounter.
There are six crucial pieces of information — six facts — that have been largely omitted from discussion on the Chauvin’s conduct. Taken together, they likely exonerate the officer of a murder charge. Rather than indicating illegal and excessive force, they instead show an officer who rigidly followed the procedures deemed appropriate by the Minneapolis Police Department (MPD). The evidence points to the MPD and the local political establishment, rather than the individual officer, as ultimately responsible for George Floyd’s death.
These six facts are as follows:
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-Chuck
Just because the "rules" and department procedures allow such .... methods of restraint...... does NOT make it right or proper. Look up Ischemic Stroke, and see if a knee on the neck won't cut off blood flow to the brian, resulting in death. Put Chauvin on trial for murder, and then the MPD, and all the people that formulated these 'policies'. Bastards.
ReplyDeleteWhy kick all the white's ass? If the blacks would behave the prisons wouldn't be 80% full of blacks.
DeleteI don't understand folks like you. How are the LEO's going to be able to do their job? These cops had no idea the perp had drugs in his system or that he had heart issues. I would not be surprised if thousands of LEO's quit across the country over the next few months.
DeleteYou know what stops these things?
1st, don't commit criminal acts and then you will not have to deal with a LEO.
2nd, if you do commit criminal acts, don't resist arrest.
Problem solved.
How about we start with the forces that set LEO's against the citizens?
Delete1st: repeal ALL drug laws. Most violent interactions with LEO's are over this issue. And if the prohibition era is any precedent, the feds don't actually have the legal authority to forbid any drugs anyway. After all, we had to amend the constitution to give them the power to forbid the devil's drink.
2nd: Repeal all gun laws. Similar reasons.
3rd: Repeal all traffic laws, or enforce them strictly via cameras.
BAM! Suddenly 90% of officer interactions with the public are friendly, and 95% of prisoners are released. Violent interactions with officers practically vanish overnight.
See how easy that was? The problem isn't Police department policies. Those policies are merely a reflection of the bad laws they're required to enforce or get fired.
The "facts" are subjective and immaterial to the FACT that George Floyd was murdered by Derrick Chauvin. There is no amount of extenuating circumstances that overcome that video. If a jury does not convict Derrick Chauvin, we're going to watch our country burn to the ground and a lot of innocent people will lose their lives. That responsibility will be on BLM and Antifa. As to the outcome of that second wave of violence? Antifa thinks they have an "army" in training? BBwwwhhheeehhhaaa. They don't have a clue or the money to buy one. AS the PSA on the main page says ...pick up your brass.
ReplyDeleteNemo
George Floyd murdered himself.
DeleteTake a bad heart.
Add a handful of meth and fentanyl and other drugs.
Get all excited and amped up.
Blow up your heart.
That's how Poor George died. He did it to himself. He could have died even if the cops let him go. Or he could have died in receiving. Or in lockup. Or in first appearance. Or when his cell buddy is slipping into his back door. Or in prison
Derrick Chauvin was following normal procedures. Which he wouldn't have had to do if George hadn't been resisting so bad that the two original cops couldn't contain him.
Heck, maybe, just... maybe if George hadn't been trying to pass funny money...
Or not had a career as a violent felon...
"Derrick Chauvin was following normal procedures" That's what the German Generals claimed at Nuremberg, "I was just following orders". BBoollllsshhiitt.
DeleteNemo
One less thug in the world and I supposed to care? Fat chance Gomer...
ReplyDeleteThings like "right" and "wrong," "moral" and "immoral" are not relevant in court. All that matters is how the law was written, how that law has been interpreted and applied, and whether the accused meets the legal standard for having violated said law. If Chauvin's case goes to a jury trial, and the prosecution is unable to meet the burden of proof....if just one juror is not convinced...he will be found not guilty. Not "innocent," just "not guilty." If that happens, and that's a big if, the rioting we have seen so far will be nothing in comparison to what will follow an acquittal. We'd all better be very well prepared for the day the verdict comes.....
ReplyDeleteSure bud, they gonna let their centerpiece of an entire national cause go free. They got themselves backed into a corner. Nothing but guilty will please the masses, of course that assumes he will still be alive for a trial.
ReplyDeleteWho said Keith Ellison, et al wanted to please the masses?
DeleteThey've overcharged Chauvin, knowing they can't get a Murder 1 conviction for a Manslaughter offense.
As Anonymous pointed out above, an acquittal serves Ellison and the other shit-disturbers better than a conviction.
An acquittal means Rodney King II in a couple of years, just in time for mid-term elections.
Murder? Nope - no way. Murder is the premeditated act of taking another persons life. That means Chauvin planned to kill Floyd beforehand. Good luck proving that. He was using an approved technique that was taught to him by the Minneapolis police department with the approval of the department, city council and mayor. You can't train a cop to do something and then put him in jail when he uses it. That's Alice in Wonderland logic. I suppose you could nail him for manslaughter or involuntary manslaughter if he was not using the procedure correctly but there's no way he can be found guilty of murder, that is, premeditated killing, in a just trial. I half believe that AG Ellison deliberately went for murder knowing he won't get a conviction so that the shit can hit the fan all over again. The scumbag is that low. The wild card in this is jury nullification. It's going to be pretty tough for Chauvin to get a fair trial anywhere in the country and if Ellison can get 'his' jury then all bets are off. Having said all that, police training in the USA sucks and this kind of shit needs to stop, now. But go after the bosses, not the grunts in the street.
ReplyDelete> I half believe that AG Ellison deliberately went for murder knowing he won't get a conviction so that the shit can hit the fan all over again.
DeleteExactly. Justice (whatever you believe that to be in this case) is NOT what the bad people want. They want to keep the race hatred and victimhood narratives going.
It was a drug overdose. He was dying before the police arrived. They just witnessed it.
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kneeling on george floyds neck, the appearance of casual indifference by the officer have painted a picture that may not let the truth, whatever it is, shine through. The Minnesota AG is a total race baiting political whore that is looking for the severest conviction not truth.
ReplyDeleteThis is a lose, lose situation for all of us. Good piece though.
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Thanks Ken for that link. Very comprehensive.
ReplyDeleteFrankly as far as I'm concerned, Floyd George killed himself; he took dangerous drugs on top of a serious preexisting condition, he decided (though the decision to take drugs and alcohol may have robbed him of the ability to make decisions) to not co-operate and fight the police offices.
Whatever criminal responsibility the office may have had has been cleared up for me by the linked article. His soul is his own problem, a man died while in his hands. He has to live with that.
It's a major shit show that will end badly, the masses demand a 1st degree murder charge but this is manslaughter at best. He gets overcharged, walks, America gets looted and burns for real. All this puts Roof Top Koreans, no matter what there heritage, in go mode, all this sounds exciting but ends bad for the country.
ReplyDeleteJD
The shitbirds thinking they run the country - teenage to mid-20s - have already put the country there. I think its time to let this whole fiasco run its course with liberal amounts of justice applied. Because the alternative is a slow burn for the next 10 years. Right now its warm, not hot. Let's flick that switch and give them all what they have been asking for. It will be too much pressure for them.
DeleteIf the jury or judge finds him not guilty at the state level because he was following legally approved / police recommended procedures, the feds may try him again - using different standards - for violating George's civil rights. That allows the possibility of 3 sets of riots and looting instead of just one or two . . .
ReplyDeleteI'm still waiting for some video, or at least a witness account, of what transpired in the minutes before we see the cop kneeling on Floyd's neck. I doubt things went from zero to three cops kneeling on him in under one second.
ReplyDeleteAll I hear is crickets.
If we start charging police officers with murder, pretty soon NO ONE will want to be a police officer (and rightfully so).
ReplyDeleteWhat do we do then?
Overcharging......Murder one or two for what was basically manslaughter. The DA and those in power get to pretend they are addressing the problem yet knowing they an never prove intent so the case ends with acquittal. It's a common response to cops who commit heinous abuses. By the time the case makes it's way through the system some other distraction....or several...will have taken the public's mind off the case. It's a win win for everyone. The DA etc. get to pretend they care, the cop doesn't get convicted and might even get their job back with back pay after being acquitted. And NOBODY has to address the actual problem of poor training and the sociopathic nature of most cops.
ReplyDeleteThe policeman is going to be convicted irregardless, he will do maybe a year or slightly more but then win on appeal. Gutless politicians have to throw him under the bus to appease rioters. With this society being weak against black thugs it is only going to get worse with the cowards we have running govt. Pray for Donald Trump.
ReplyDeleteThey took the case away from the one person in Minnesota that has actually gotten a conviction of a police officer for Murder. Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman convicted Mohamad Noor of killing unarmed pajama clad Justine Damond. Noor was charged and convicted of Third Degrees Murder, which was the same charge Freeman put on Derek Chauvin, 3rd degree murder.
ReplyDeleteInstead they gave the entire case to the ex-co-Chairman of the DNC, former Black Muslim, current MN AG Keith Ellison. Keith has already overcharged the case, and when it comes up for trial, it will be moved outstate to St. Cloud, Rochester, or maybe Moorhead or Duluth. I expect the other three to be acquitted, and Chauvin to be a hung jury or acquitted, because MN AG Overcharged it, and will not prove intent or any of the lesser charges. Reasonable doubt and the Twin Cities will burn all over again. I hope the trial ends in January or February in the middle of a blizzard.
You know what Rayshard Brooks and George Floyd have in common?
If they had peaceably gotten into the squad car, they would be alive today.