Over a lifetime of buying such things as this, they all ended up in drawers and the basement, once I realized that any up-close-and-personal semi-weapon like this simply gives the bad guys a sporting chance. My objective in personal safety is to keep bad guys at a distance, and that's why the Good Lord invented firearms. Good situational awareness at all times, avoiding crowds, and not being on the streets after dark are excellent starting points. Just my 2-cents' worth.
You would be correct. 21 feet is close enough for an attacker to attack before you can draw and fire (at least without practice). Allowing someone to be within a few feet is asking for trouble unless you are extremely well versed in unarmed combat and don't mind bleeding.
I've been carrying one for years, through airports and all over the country. Only once has someone asked me what it is. I explained that because of where I work that I can't have change falling out of my pocket while seated so I keep it in a zippered coin pouch on my belt (all of which is true, BTW). The explanation satisfied them and no more questions were asked.
Uncle Z: I'm here in Orygun, chafing under the dictates of Kommie Kate Brown, and I'm curious what statute makes this "coin purse" illegal here. The neck knife you link to is a good piece, and all the serious river rafters consider it essential equipment, but it won't pass TSA. What then?
The statute is ORS 166.240. Took me less than 10 seconds to look it up and read it.
As for the TSA ... What then indeed Greg. With all due respect, if you can't answer that one for yourself, you probably shouldn't be carrying anything anyway. The primary self-defense tool is located between one's ears.
Frankly, there's less and less reason to fly commercial anymore these days. Unless you're headed overseas, or your employer requires you to fly for work, it's often best to simply make other plans.
What then? is a rhetorical question. I'm always in possession of a most dangerous weapon: a bad attitude. And you are quite right about primary tools. I've always held that prepping isn't so much about "stuff" as it is about that primary tool. The statute is there in Oregon: SECTION 15. ORS 166.240 is amended to read:
166.240. (1) Except as provided in subsection (2) of this section, any person who carries concealed upon the person any knife having a blade that projects or swings into position by force of a spring or by centrifugal force [and commonly known as a switchblade knife], any dirk, dagger, ice pick, slungshot, metal knuckles, or any similar instrument by the use of which injury could be inflicted upon the person or property of any other person, commits a Class B misdemeanor. I was also surprised the other day on a different blog to learn that it's illegal to have a trailer hitch in the receiver when not towing! It is clear that there is a lot of pruning to be done on our so called "laws".
it is called a hot tamale I have two. Each will hold a roll of Quarters https://www.meangeneleather.com/shop/mgl-hot-tamale-less-lethal-coin/ This is a different design https://www.meangeneleather.com/shop/hot-tamale-v-2/ I will probably be picking up 2 of these as well.
I'm most inclined to agree with Amahl above. But if I have to go somewhere I can't carry concealed--TSA for example--where I can't even carry my gd Swiss Army knife that I've been carrying for half a century now, this looks like a good addition to the "tactical pen". I also highly recommend a book called Raising Cane by Octavio Ramos. A walking cane can be a formidable weapon with practice, and it'll sail right through airport security.
https://straightforwardinacrookedworld.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-barranti-life-changer.html
ReplyDeleteI have one of these, well made, and quite useful
Thanks, but I think I'll keep my .45.
ReplyDeleteCool, where do I get one?
ReplyDeleteOrdered. Here tomorrow.
ReplyDeleteOver a lifetime of buying such things as this, they all ended up in drawers and the basement, once I realized that any up-close-and-personal semi-weapon like this simply gives the bad guys a sporting chance. My objective in personal safety is to keep bad guys at a distance, and that's why the Good Lord invented firearms. Good situational awareness at all times, avoiding crowds, and not being on the streets after dark are excellent starting points. Just my 2-cents' worth.
ReplyDeleteYou would be correct. 21 feet is close enough for an attacker to attack before you can draw and fire (at least without practice). Allowing someone to be within a few feet is asking for trouble unless you are extremely well versed in unarmed combat and don't mind bleeding.
DeleteI've been carrying one for years, through airports and all over the country. Only once has someone asked me what it is. I explained that because of where I work that I can't have change falling out of my pocket while seated so I keep it in a zippered coin pouch on my belt (all of which is true, BTW). The explanation satisfied them and no more questions were asked.
ReplyDeleteYou can get them at:
http://www.meangeneleather.com/product-category/coin-purses/
Matt
That will get you charged with a felony for carrying a sap in many states.
DeleteCA PENAL CODE
SECTION 22210-22295
What a nifty doodad
ReplyDeleteNo idea who else sells them, but mine came from Mean Gene Leather. He has them in different colors, too.
ReplyDeleteNY would call that a sap and listed as a deadly weapon
ReplyDeleteOhhhhh.......a slapjack.....best one was a “convoy”.......
ReplyDeleteEd357
'Illegal' in Oregun. I wear one of these always:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/crkt-folts-minimalist-2-neck-knife?a=1659333
Uncle Z: I'm here in Orygun, chafing under the dictates of Kommie Kate Brown, and I'm curious what statute makes this "coin purse" illegal here.
DeleteThe neck knife you link to is a good piece, and all the serious river rafters consider it essential equipment, but it won't pass TSA. What then?
The statute is ORS 166.240. Took me less than 10 seconds to look it up and read it.
DeleteAs for the TSA ... What then indeed Greg. With all due respect, if you can't answer that one for yourself, you probably shouldn't be carrying anything anyway. The primary self-defense tool is located between one's ears.
Frankly, there's less and less reason to fly commercial anymore these days. Unless you're headed overseas, or your employer requires you to fly for work, it's often best to simply make other plans.
What then? is a rhetorical question. I'm always in possession of a most dangerous weapon: a bad attitude. And you are quite right about primary tools. I've always held that prepping isn't so much about "stuff" as it is about that primary tool.
DeleteThe statute is there in Oregon:
SECTION 15. ORS 166.240 is amended to read:
166.240. (1) Except as provided in subsection (2) of this section, any person who carries concealed upon the person any knife having a blade that projects or swings into position by force of a spring or by centrifugal force [and commonly known as a switchblade knife], any dirk, dagger, ice pick, slungshot, metal knuckles, or any similar instrument by the use of which injury could be inflicted upon the person or property of any other person, commits a Class B misdemeanor.
I was also surprised the other day on a different blog to learn that it's illegal to have a trailer hitch in the receiver when not towing! It is clear that there is a lot of pruning to be done on our so called "laws".
Convenient way to carry change and provide counter opinions.
ReplyDeleteIn NY, NJ you need an Irish sap. A cotton sock with a raw potato in it. I wonder if you could "get done" even for that?
ReplyDeleteNaw, cook the potato first. Toss in a little salt and pepper. Self defense is hungry work. No problem, mashed potatoes for lunch.
Deleteit is called a hot tamale I have two. Each will hold a roll of Quarters
ReplyDeletehttps://www.meangeneleather.com/shop/mgl-hot-tamale-less-lethal-coin/
This is a different design https://www.meangeneleather.com/shop/hot-tamale-v-2/ I will probably be picking up 2 of these as well.
Old fashioned police sap with a twist, the old fashioned variety has knocked out plenty dumbasses.
ReplyDeleteJD
Have not been here in a long time ... sorry to learn about your companion Charlie.
ReplyDeleteI'm most inclined to agree with Amahl above. But if I have to go somewhere I can't carry concealed--TSA for example--where I can't even carry my gd Swiss Army knife that I've been carrying for half a century now, this looks like a good addition to the "tactical pen".
ReplyDeleteI also highly recommend a book called Raising Cane by Octavio Ramos. A walking cane can be a formidable weapon with practice, and it'll sail right through airport security.