A report release in September by National Nurses United, the country's largest nurses union, found that California is leading in COVID-19 infection rates amongst health care workers nationwide. The Golden State reported 35,525 infection cases, followed by Georgia at 17,317, then Florida at 16,380. California ranks third in overall health care worker deaths, behind New York and New Jersey.
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I worked in a hospital for 10 years and you always wore a mask, at minimum, around every patient and that was before all this BS
ReplyDeleteI think "How could this be? I thought health care workers all wore masks..." is sort of like saying 'How could police be shot in the line of duty? I thought they all wore bulletproof vests..."
ReplyDeleteBecause the lack of proper equipment AND the lack of proper training, particularly when taking OFF said equipment. I worked in manufacturing. I had to be certified to put on, wear, and take off my PPE equipment. This was so I didn't contaminate myself or anyone around me. This whole charade makes me crazy.
ReplyDeleteNow, if they were talking about furloughed nurses, then that is believable! I was a nurse and still have old nurse friends and they have not heard of this large number and believe me they would.
ReplyDeleteWhat are the co-morbidities? What are the conditions at home? What are the age groups?
ReplyDeleteThis is a study‽ In what, pseudo-scientific political scare tactics?
It doesn't say they caught it at work (probably because the authors of it have NFI how they got sick).
ReplyDeleteThey could very well be getting infected by asymptomatic family members, who aren't wearing masks at work/school, let alone at home, or are in places that were stupidly re-opened with minimal compliance, like schools.
And given that California is the most populous state in the nation, with the most health care workers, and with one of the highest statewide infection rates, they should be #1 in total nurse infections, not #3, just from the basic math.
So what this "study" is actually telling you are that the nurses in NY and NJ are screwing the pooch, relatively speaking, and once again, very possibly because of infection vectors that have nothing to do with their workplace habits.
What it's really telling you is that someone is writing scare headlines, without conveying a lot of information, or controlling for about 50 variables.
It's clickbait for news organizations, where the general science IQ is about 40 points below retarded kids on the short bus, but it's basically junk science with very little worthwhile or useful data. And - shocker - released by a nursing union, with an axe to grind, regardless of whther anything they say actually proves anything. All this does is muddy the waters, because management wil respond by saying "All you've proven is that your nurses are idiots, not that we aren't ptoecting them." And they'd be right, because it's a garbage "report".
This is classic Union 101 propaganda muckraking, masquearading as advocacy.
"mask-erading-
DeleteTee hee.
Yeah, lotsa smoke, fractional fire.
All you guys are missing the obvious. MASKS DON'T WORK, on this and many other viruses, because the virus is so small that it goes right through the holes between the mask fibers. Not to mention that the air leaking around ALL SIDES of a mask aren't helping defend against the viruses either.
ReplyDeleteHere's a test. Pass gas. That's right FART. If you can smell the fart through the mask you think is doing such a great job protecting you, guess what, the mask isn't doing shit. A fart odor molecule is actually a little bigger than the virus, so if you can smell the fart through the mask you're wearing, the mask isn't stopping the virus either.
Nemo
Nice try, but no.
Delete1) Viruses don't float around solo. (If they did, even a space suit wouldn't work.) They travel on water droplets (snot and slobber), not by themselves. Water droplets are many times larger than the holes in the filter media.
2) Surgical masks aren't to protect you from others; they're to protect others from you, by capturing cough droplets that travel 10' @ 100MPH, and sneeze particles that travel 30'@200MPH, when no mask is worn, and turning them into particles that travel 0', and stay inside your mask, or bounce onto your own face, if you wear one.
3) N95s, if that is what's being worn, as the name implies, stop 95% of everything particulate (including sneeze and cough droplets) that hits them from getting to the wearer. And they seal to the face (if you've been fit tested properly, which is 99% of heath care workers, and <5% of anyone else). The test media is an odorous vapor (usually banana oil, but it varies), and you won't smell a fart with one on if it's on correctly.
4) Surgical masks and face diapers aren't N95, or anything close. This is the difference between house flies and houses.
If anyone thought cotton face diapers were protecting the wearers directly (as they were never intended to do), they haven't been paying any serious attention in 10 months, and should probably break suction, and get a clue.
Masks have worked for 150 years, which is why they're worn in surgery, and isolation rooms, and all sorts of other places.
Sort of like Pasteur, Lister, and Semmelweis all had a pretty good handle on germ theory and basic science, unlike about 90% of the internet.
Where they don't work is when people pull their noses out, wear them on their chin or their head instead of their face, or pull them down to cough. All of which I've seen times without number in public since April. That makes them about like stoplights and stop signs: when some people are too stupid to grasp the concept, you have a problem, and then a body count.
Well, maybe it's because Filipino nurses are used as scut nurses to do all the nasty jobs normal American nurses don't or won't do.
ReplyDeleteSeen it the several times I've been to the hospital. The American nurses do all the 'major' nursing work requiring drug dispensing and charting and all that happy-crappy. The foreign nurses, usually Filipino but some dot.indians, are doing all the nasty shit jobs, like cleaning, draining wounds, dealing with input/output (yeah, piss and shit) and other crap like that.
From what I've seen, it's almost like American nurses are office workers while the foreign nurses are coal miners.
Where are you a nurse???
DeleteIn my part of the country, nurses are assigned a section and they do ALL the nursing in that section.
Would you leave your license in someone’s hands by having them do your charting?
Yeah, neither does anyone else.