“Knowing your responsibility with a weapon in the public. That is the most important thing,” Ratkowski explained.
Ratkowski takes his students through simulations focused on the preservation of life, using the gun as a last resort. However, the actual requirements for a CCW vary greatly by county.
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Where I came from, it was easy to get a permit, but it was a lengthy process because one of the requirements was that you had to be interviewed by the Sheriff's Department. The process could take up to a year. The fees were also outrageous between the class you had to take and admin charges and I'm talking several hundred bucks.
When I moved here, it was 22 days from the time I said "Hmmm, I believe I'm going to get a handgun permit" to where I was holding it in my grubby little hands. I don't recall the exact amount I had to pay, but between the class I had to take and the admin fees, it was about $125-150.
Maine. Constitutional Carry
ReplyDeleteSame here in New Hampshire and neighboring Vermont.
DeleteAnd West Virginia.
DeleteMy county is shall issue- unless they have
ReplyDeletestrong grounds otherwise, you will get your permit. (Every county north of Tehema, as far as I know, is shall issue.)
Course is 8 hours, with a live fire component; you have to get on paper at 7 yards.
I believe it's 75 dollars for the permit; the course cost depends on the school..
As for the variance- sheriffs in certain counties (Santa Clara!) deny everyone but their buddies and benefactors. It's a source of contention, depending on where you are. But, if you vote in a lefty sheriff, you get lefty policies.
In fact, I've had cops stop me who've never SEEN a CCW permit. ( Fun fact- in my county, it's a piece of paper without a picture. Reminds me of an old style library card..)
We're a few counties south of you in the Sierra foothills and have had the same experience, a relatively easy time getting a permit which looks similar to yours. If I remember right it took my wife about two months to get her appointment at the sheriffs office but that was understandable as they were getting slammed at the time.
DeleteHey, Elmo.
DeleteGood to know I'm not alone; since Kenny left, the place feels empty!
Seriously, though- people in other states fail to realize, that, for a large portion of this state, we're just regular people who love the same things they do, surrounded by heavenly landscapes and hellish leftists.
A few years back in Alabama, you filled out a form, waited on a background check, and paid $7.50 per year. I did a 5 year just to simplify the process.
ReplyDeleteI don't know if anything has changed since then.
Baldwin County, AL Walk in, show your DL, pay $30.00, walk out with permit.
DeleteGot mine this year in Illinois: FOID plus two day training class; one day if you've got a DD-214.
ReplyDeleteAnd then we wait...annnd wait....annnnnd wait. 4 months.
Before I left Commiefornia, Chiefs of police could issue them. Since I lived in rural counties, it was not a big deal other than finding classes if they wouldn't accept my POST or Gunsite or Thunder Ranch classes(happened twice...grrrr). In the last City I lived in before escaping to constitutional carry, they saw my training and just made me go shoot with the Range Officer/SWAT team member. I shot a static course and 2 shoot move shoot and on the second one he touched off a flashbang.....I kept shooting calm and cool. when done, I asked him to get his first aid kit. He looked stunned as I showed him the rock embedded in my shooting arm and blood dripping out at a pretty good rate...he got the kit. I got my permit.....and a lot good will from the officer...
ReplyDeleteIn Ohio, it's an 8 hour class and about the same price.
ReplyDeleteAnd all the crap above is unconstitutional.
ReplyDeleteThe 2A is really fucking simple.
But the leftist commies delight in making unconstitutional laws. And voter fraud.
"Shall not be infringed."
DeleteIn New Hampshire we have constitutional carry but you need a permit to get reciprocity in other states. It took a week and $5. This is one reason we need to preserve the Granite State's traditional culture.
ReplyDeleteIn my Cal.city (Hanford) it's 30 days, $35 to the city, $52 to the state plus 8 hour class for renewal.
ReplyDeleteGetting a CCW in L.A. is easy. Just donate $30,000.00 to the L.A. County Sheriff's reelection campaign, just like all the Hollywood elite who want to ban guns do.
ReplyDeleteIn Georgia it's fill out a form, get fingerprinted at the Sheriff's office and wait on a background check. There's a fee to the county and if I remember correctly, there was a fee for the fingerprints. It's more expensive than $15 but not outrageous. Good for five years. No training required. Mine expires in '22. And...it's a Weapons Carry License. No one can carry concealed without a license, you can carry in a car if you're legally able to own a gun. I believe you can open carry a long gun without a license. It hasn't in the past taken long for the permit to be issued but who knows these days.
ReplyDeleteOddly enough, Washington is pretty much the same.
DeleteProbably dates from when this was a rugged blue collar area.
It varies county by county. In Gwinnett, the Probate court office has an electronic fingerprint machine and there is no additional charge for prints. Mine expired this year. All I had to do was present the completed documents and pay the $35 fee. No prints or picture as they used the ones on file - 2020 rules.
DeleteIt's the same here in Oconee. I was speaking of my initial application. My first license in '95 (Gwinnett, it was) did prints the old way. When I returned from a few years out of state in 2011, I still had to get prints at the sheriff's office, though they had the new machine. They did away with the requirement to get prints at every renewal a few years ago.
DeleteP.S. I lived in Lawrenceville for thirty years. It's a whole lot easier to go between the courthouse and sheriff's office in Watkinsville than it is in Lawrenceville. Having the print gadgets in the courthouse in Gwinnet is good customer service.
Delete"No one can carry concealed without a license"
DeleteAnyone who wants to *can* carry concealed without a license. There may be some legal entanglements if they get caught doing so, however.
Michigan, it is an 8 hour class, with half classroom and half range time. The course work is taken from the NRA book called, I think, Safety in the Home, or some such thing.
ReplyDeleteMy class was 125$, then fingerprinting at the police station, a background check,of course, and I think 105$, and within just a few weeks or so, you get your permit in the mail. You used to have to bring a passport picture for the county clerk, and appear before a state board at your local court house. They did away with that, due to the massive number of permits and the very low number of issues with permit holders. The last time I renewed,I think it was for 10 years, and was still 105$.
The one thing about Michigan,we recognize any other states permit, although the holder must follow our laws about ccw in Michigan, such as no carry in a bar, or a church, hospital, school, etc. The funny thing about the school, if you possess a ccw permit, you can open carry a gun in a school. The government just did a bad job of writing the laws for concealed carry. Imagine that.
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I’ve had CCWs in 6 states. Varying requirements thru the years. All but one you were good to carry “a weapon.” The last you had to provide the serial #, make & model of the carry. Understand that’s no longer the case but it sure made me think - which one firearm was suited for offensive or defensive carry, reliable and willing to be sacrificed as evidence if necessary.
ReplyDeleteWell I guess as fucked up as this state is in other areas, getting a CCW in our county sounds pretty good compared to some of you. It involves about 15 minutes of paperwork and fingerprinting, coughing up $51 and waiting for the background check to run across the Sheriff's desk, which takes about 7~10 days.
ReplyDeleteWe also have legal open carry pretty much statewide except for private property that is posted as no gun zones and the larger blue hives, which manage to find ways to curtail a citizen's 2A rights.
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Yeah Idaho! Constitutional Carry, both concealed and open. Same in South Dakota just before I left.
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