It sounds like they just let their dogs run free. I don't condone killing the dogs but I despise people who won't be responsible for their animals. Her comments about replacing chickens and the dogs not knowing they did wrong is bullshit. I hope she doesn't have kids but if so I'd bet they're tweakers or otherwise fucked up. maxx
How do you know they don't live out in the country? I put my dogs out several times a day without a leash or fenced yard. They stay on the property - most of the time. Legal Lucy will occasionally wander a few feet onto the property next door until I holler at her.
I had to shoot, I used my Gamo air rifle, a beagle once. Guy I know brings his dogs to run in the open property, 100 acres or so of former cane field, behind mine 2 to 3x a week. Normally I hear them barking but don't see them except the day they got into my yard while my chickens were out doing yard pest control. I tried to move them along but a beagle on a trail is impossible to reroute so I sent a pellet into its left back leg, it got the message and moved on. I told George what I did and why and he understood, I didn't want to kill his dog but that was my next move if the pellet didn't work. If anyone thinks differently than that they are entitled to their opinions but I suggest they keep their dog in control and away from my yard birds otherwise I make the call. JD
But you do yell at her. You are responsible for your dogs actions. Shouldn't matter where you live. Responsibility to neighbors is the same where ever you live. She was responsible for those dogs too and fucked that right off. She had a hand in their demise sure as shit! maxx
Yup. The farm rule is "shoot, shovel, shut up". I guess I'm going to somewhat ignore the last part of the rule. Had a neighbor with a large dog. When I say "neighbor" I mean ~1/2 mile away. They never fed the damn thing, and just left it outside all day. It came over to our house a bunch of times. We'd tie the dog up, and call the neighbor to come get it. Neighbor would grumble that we should just "let the dog roam". We would remind him we raise ducks, turkeys, geese, chickens, and quail. He didn't care. Then the dog came back one afternoon and we heard squawking. I came out and yelled. It didn't deter the dog from eating 25-30 goose eggs that were only a few days away from hatching. I grabbed the dog, tied it up, called the neighbor...and got told "that's just what dogs do".
Three days later, the dog was back at 11 PM. I hear squawking and honking, so I roll over, grab the AR, throw the window open, and fire a shot. I hear the dog yelp and take off running. I figure I missed. Nope. Three days later the dog is dead in the middle of the main road.
Neighbor comes over bitching that "those asshole kids at the trailer park [about two miles away] were probably taking pot-shots at his dog".
"Huh. I suppose it's possible. I mean, you do let the dog roam...he's bound to get in to trouble. You just can't do that in farm country."
This could have been handled differently on both sides. If she's going to let her dogs run free, with neighbors who have livestock, she needs some kind of fence, be it an underground electrical type or a physical one. And depending on the law in that locale, the person who shot them for killing the chickens, if, in fact they did, has that right, he or she most certainly could have chosen to report it and let the law deal with the owner and the dogs. It is possible it wasn't the first time the dogs had killed livestock, though.
Mr Snuffy: My new born calves don't give a shit how the dog owner disciplines their pooches. The second time a dog "worries" [colo statute definition] my livestock, the 'pooch' becomes a 'predator' and it's Good nite Irene. Simple. Eff'in animal control folks are so obese, they roll out of their truck, and cannot get over a bobwire fence. So much for THAT plan......
The story is short on some important details, but here is the way it is around farm country where I live...
The owner is responsible for their dogs - period.
In my state (KY) and county (Bullitt), a dog running free on your property hazarding your livestock can be shot to protect the livestock without legal repercussion.
I once had a Siberian Husky. She was a very good dog but if she got loose she would chase a cow, chicken, squirrel, rabbit, cat or other animal in a minute. Most times she would come when called, but sometimes she wouldn't. For that reason, I **never** let her out of the house or yard without a leash.
Wirecutter, I'd be right there with you giving those bastards the same treatment they gave the dogs (and chickens). But it's Indiana where idiots marry their cousins.
I would kill the bastards and I would be happy to go to jail.
ReplyDeleteRule 2 violator(s)!
ReplyDeleteOr it’s a message and the recipients are virtue signaling. Hard to tell anymore honestly.
Dogs deserve better than most “humans” though.
DID these dogs kill the chickens????? If they did the person had every right to shoot them.
ReplyDeleteIt sounds like they just let their dogs run free. I don't condone killing the dogs but I despise people who won't be responsible for their animals. Her comments about replacing chickens and the dogs not knowing they did wrong is bullshit. I hope she doesn't have kids but if so I'd bet they're tweakers or otherwise fucked up.
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How do you know they don't live out in the country? I put my dogs out several times a day without a leash or fenced yard. They stay on the property - most of the time. Legal Lucy will occasionally wander a few feet onto the property next door until I holler at her.
DeleteI had to shoot, I used my Gamo air rifle, a beagle once. Guy I know brings his dogs to run in the open property, 100 acres or so of former cane field, behind mine 2 to 3x a week. Normally I hear them barking but don't see them except the day they got into my yard while my chickens were out doing yard pest control. I tried to move them along but a beagle on a trail is impossible to reroute so I sent a pellet into its left back leg, it got the message and moved on. I told George what I did and why and he understood, I didn't want to kill his dog but that was my next move if the pellet didn't work. If anyone thinks differently than that they are entitled to their opinions but I suggest they keep their dog in control and away from my yard birds otherwise I make the call.
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But you do yell at her. You are responsible for your dogs actions.
ReplyDeleteShouldn't matter where you live. Responsibility to neighbors is the same where ever you live. She was responsible for those dogs too and fucked that right off.
She had a hand in their demise sure as shit!
maxx
Loose running dogs killing my livestock? Shoot, shovel, shut up. The mistake was in not using a shovel. No sympathy.
ReplyDeleteYup. The farm rule is "shoot, shovel, shut up". I guess I'm going to somewhat ignore the last part of the rule. Had a neighbor with a large dog. When I say "neighbor" I mean ~1/2 mile away. They never fed the damn thing, and just left it outside all day. It came over to our house a bunch of times. We'd tie the dog up, and call the neighbor to come get it. Neighbor would grumble that we should just "let the dog roam". We would remind him we raise ducks, turkeys, geese, chickens, and quail. He didn't care. Then the dog came back one afternoon and we heard squawking. I came out and yelled. It didn't deter the dog from eating 25-30 goose eggs that were only a few days away from hatching. I grabbed the dog, tied it up, called the neighbor...and got told "that's just what dogs do".
DeleteThree days later, the dog was back at 11 PM. I hear squawking and honking, so I roll over, grab the AR, throw the window open, and fire a shot. I hear the dog yelp and take off running. I figure I missed. Nope. Three days later the dog is dead in the middle of the main road.
Neighbor comes over bitching that "those asshole kids at the trailer park [about two miles away] were probably taking pot-shots at his dog".
"Huh. I suppose it's possible. I mean, you do let the dog roam...he's bound to get in to trouble. You just can't do that in farm country."
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DeleteThis could have been handled differently on both sides. If she's going to let her dogs run free, with neighbors who have livestock, she needs some kind of fence, be it an underground electrical type or a physical one. And depending on the law in that locale, the person who shot them for killing the chickens, if, in fact they did, has that right, he or she most certainly could have chosen to report it and let the law deal with the owner and the dogs. It is possible it wasn't the first time the dogs had killed livestock, though.
ReplyDeleteMr Snuffy: My new born calves don't give a shit how the dog owner disciplines their pooches. The second time a dog "worries" [colo statute definition] my livestock, the 'pooch' becomes a 'predator' and it's Good nite Irene. Simple.
DeleteEff'in animal control folks are so obese, they roll out of their truck, and cannot get over a bobwire fence. So much for THAT plan......
The story is short on some important details, but here is the way it is around farm country where I live...
ReplyDeleteThe owner is responsible for their dogs - period.
In my state (KY) and county (Bullitt), a dog running free on your property hazarding your livestock can be shot to protect the livestock without legal repercussion.
I once had a Siberian Husky. She was a very good dog but if she got loose she would chase a cow, chicken, squirrel, rabbit, cat or other animal in a minute. Most times she would come when called, but sometimes she wouldn't. For that reason, I **never** let her out of the house or yard without a leash.
Wirecutter, I'd be right there with you giving those bastards the same treatment they gave the dogs (and chickens). But it's Indiana where idiots marry their cousins.
ReplyDelete"But it's Indiana where idiots marry their cousins."
ReplyDeleteWhat kind of a stupid statement is that? Have you ever even been in Indiana?
Oh, never mind. Your from the west coast - that means either California, Oregon or Washington. In other words - no room to talk.