Dr. David Martin, founder and chairman of M-CAM Inc, challenges our presuppositions about the new mRNA Covid-19 vaccines. Quoting the pharmaceutical companies themselves, David suggests that these are not vaccines, but, in actuality, gene therapy. He explains what the vaccines may do to us, what they are promising they can do for us, and how to distinguish the difference.
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I don't know enough about this kind of thing to argue one way or another. My biggest issue with any of these vaccines is how quickly they hit the market. There's no way in hell you can convince me that they're as safe as they claim they are.
My wife, nurse of 50 years' experience, including 5 in Communicable Disease, agrees with you completely. She says a vaccine like this takes 2 years to test and, I might add, there are plenty of horror stories about them already.
ReplyDeleteOf course they're safe. If they weren't safe, the government would grant legal immunity to the pharmaceutical companies. No, wait............
ReplyDeleteThe Johnson & Johnson vaccine uses a tried and true method, modifying an existing adenovirus to replicate the outer coating of the Covid-19 virus. Many flu vaccines are made using this method. I am far more comfortable using the J&J vaccine rather than the Pfizer or Moderna mRNA-based vaccines since they are using a method not used before for such a large distribution.
ReplyDeleteYep. THe J&F vaccine is a true vaccine. Rushed testing, but if I thought the Wu-Flu was a real danger, I'd take that jab. The others are as he says.
DeleteI thought it was a more traditional vaccine because it was using a modified virus, which I thought had the spike proteins on it and so caused a normal immune response. A big NOPE.
DeleteJ&J uses a virus that cannot replicate to penetrate a cell and insert DNA that creates mRNA that fools your own cells to make the spike protein to create an immune response, JUST LIKE THE MODERA and PFISER "vaccines".
After reading the transcript (which I can do much faster than listening to the audio) I am sure my wife and I are making the right decision to avoid the jab.
ReplyDeleteI pray this goo doesn't turn out being a mutagen and we have a zombie apocalypse 10 years from now.
TEN years? Try two or three years (AKA: Flu Seasons).
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ReplyDeleteDR. SHERRI TENPENNY EXPLAINS HOW THE DEPOPULATION COVID VACCINES WILL START WORKING IN 3-6 MONTHS
https://www.brighteon.com/872c17bc-f125-4db6-8464-cdca06071398
If 'mRNA' is population control I will get more waves in the 'lineup' here in Hawaii...
ReplyDeleteI feel the same with all this like I do about the flu shot, if you believe it will help you have at it but don't expect me to make your foolish mistakes. Carry on....
ReplyDeleteJD
If I'm gonna roll the dice, I'm gonna do it with the virus, not the virus AND the vaccine.
ReplyDeleteAll I know-is if the government and big Pharma got anything to do with it, steer fucking clear.
ReplyDeleteNo jab for me or my wife. Thanks, Wirecutter, for including this important article and thanks to Scott for the interview with Dr. Tenpenny. Both are excellent and worth your time if you're undecided whether to get the shot or not.
ReplyDeleteBookmark, or better yet, print these two articles FFR.
DeleteThey'll most likely disappear, along with their authors.
4 decades in health care and a degree from one of the premier medical universities in America. I am NOT subjecting myself to this vaccine. There is NO WAY that they could possibly test these adequately for efficacy and safety. And the virus itself is NOT a great risk for 95+% of the populace. I don't trust the government or these "vaccines".
ReplyDeleteThe following should tell you all you need to know about the Pfizer and Moderna "vaccines".
ReplyDeleteIf I get vaccinated….
Can I stop wearing the mask?
Government: No
Can the restaurants, pubs, bars, etc. reopen and everyone work normally?
Government: No
Am I resistant to covid?
Government: Maybe, but we don’t know for sure…..meaning NO
At least I am no longer contagious to others?
Government: No, you can still pass it on, possibly, no one knows.
If we vaccinate all children, will school go on as normal?
Government: No
If I am vaccinated, can I stop social dissociation?
Government: No
If I am vaccinated, can I stop disinfecting my hands?
Government No
If I vaccinate myself and my grandpa, can we hug?
Government: No
Will movie theaters, theaters and stadiums reopen thanks to vaccines?
Government: No
May the vaccinated be able to gather [events; parties, weddings etc].
Government: No
What is the real benefit of vaccination?
Government: The virus will not kill you.
Are you sure it won’t kill me?
Government: No
If statistically the virus won’t kill me anyway…. Why should I get vaccinated?
Government: To protect others.
So if I get vaccinated, others are 100% sure I won’t infect them?
Government: No, we are not sure.
If I get vaccinated, but still catch the virus, can I sue the manufacturer? What if someone in my family contracts the virus, after vaccination, then dies. Can I sue the manufacturer?
Government: No, we passed a law holding the manufacturers harmless from ANY deleterious effects from the virus.
So, to summarize: The Covid 9 vaccine….
Does not give immunity.
Does not eliminate the virus.
Does not prevent death.
Doesn’t guarantee you won’t get it.
Doesn’t stop you from getting it.
Does not stop you from passing it on.
Doesn’t preclude the need for travel bans.
Doesn’t preclude the need for business closures.
Doesn’t preclude the need for closures.
Doesn’t preclude the need for concealment.
Doesn't allow for a mistake by the manufacturer to be adjudicated in a court of law and THAT should have been your first clue.
...and the really sad part of this whole thing is that WE LET THEM DO THIS TO US. Granted, not doing some of the things listed above could have been a death sentence. However, we'll NEVER KNOW FOR SURE because the statistics on the disease are grossly inflated. Early on, nearly every death, no matter the actual cause, was attributed to COVID by greedy hospitals looking to cash in on .gov largess.
Then there's the deaths of old folks FORCED by some governors, one in particular, to cohabit with COVID patients when other facilities, constructed for the sole purpose of treating COVID patients, in isolation from any other condition requiring hospitalization, went unused because the governors of those states hated Trump.
So those governors CHOSE POLITICS OVER THE LIVES OF THEIR OWN CITIZENS and those governors are STILL WALKING AROUND FREE AND STILL GOVERNING THEIR STATES, instead of doing the hemp jig.
Oh, one more thing. What are the statistics on regular flu for the 2020/2021 flu season? Oh, there was no flu in 2020/2021? OK, if you say so.
Nemo
Lots of truth here. I hope that the downsides of this gene therapy are small since we're making guinea pigs our of 100's of millions.
Delete"I hope that the downsides of this gene therapy are small" ...Brad
DeleteDon't hope...pray, because disease-carrying ticks are small.
Uh too bad about your hypoconriac bubble, but FACTS don't seem to be on your side. "Each study group included 596,618 persons. Estimated vaccine effectiveness for the study outcomes at days 14 through 20 after the first dose and at 7 or more days after the second dose was as follows: for documented infection, 46% (95% confidence interval [CI], 40 to 51) and 92% (95% CI, 88 to 95); for symptomatic Covid-19, 57% (95% CI, 50 to 63) and 94% (95% CI, 87 to 98); for hospitalization, 74% (95% CI, 56 to 86) and 87% (95% CI, 55 to 100); and for severe disease, 62% (95% CI, 39 to 80) and 92% (95% CI, 75 to 100)." https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2101765?query=recirc_mostViewed_railB_article I've had my 2 shots and my arm didn't fall off and I don't have an appetite for brains. But since I'm at least 94% PROTECTED from the kung flu, I will ignore your paranoid rumors.
Delete@FiftycalTX I really don't care that you're still alive and healthy a few weeks or maybe a month after your shot. What you fail to understand is that this thing, unlike "normal" vaccine therapy 1. hasn't been tested for LONG TERM EFFECTS and 2. modifies your DNA to elicit an immune response. Now I don't know about you, well actually I do 'cause you took the DNA modifier, but I don't want something in my body modifying my DNA with who knows what effects 6 months, one year, five years or ten years down the road and that's the main point of my post above.
DeleteWe DON'T KNOW and NEITHer do the "scientists".
You need to ask yourself, if this "vaccine" is truly benign and won't screw with your DNA producing lord knows what deleterious effects down the road, why did CONgress pass a law holding the drug companies harmless from any adverse results that may happen years from now?
Another thing you need to be asking yourself is why are people dropping dead after having the shot SOMETIMES WITHIN HOURS and a bunch more within a week or so, if this thing is truly benign?
After all of the lies that have been told by .gov officials and scientists about a whole crap load of issues surrounding Covid and A LOT OF OTHER STUFF OVER THE LAST TWO DECADES why should we suddenly believe them when they tell us that we WON'T EVER BE HARMED by this thing?
Oh, one other thing, why are there no flu statistics from CDC for Flu seasons 2019/2020 and 2020/2021? Has the flu suddenly been conquered after hundreds of years in the wild EVERY YEAR SINCE LORD KNOWS WHEN or did it just disappear for reasons no one, including those scientists you so liberally quoted above, understands.
Nemo
Nemo
Nothing I can add that hasn't already been said. My sister-in-law just got her second shot of whatever poison they are pumping out. I expect to see her craving brains any time now. Eating brains would be an improvement for her, though. At then she'd have some.
ReplyDeleteFind yourself a food-tester, Sanders.
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Sanders' sister-in-law.
I said it before and I'll say it again. They can stick their vaccine in their ass.
ReplyDeleteI lived in Germany for about a year in the 70s and saw all those Thalidomide babies in the streets and train stations. No way in hell am I taking a "vaccine" that hasn't had long-term testing.
ReplyDeleteThalidomide is an excellent example. It was prescribed for morning sickness, but never tested on pregnant women or pregnant animals. Basically, it was declared profitable and rushed to market.
Deletehttps://blog.thingswedontknow.com/2020/01/the-thalidomide-scandal-things-we-dont.html
Thanks for posting that link. Very informative.
ReplyDeleteAlways learning something at Knuckledraggin.
MadMarlin
"osteopathic medicine" ... and I stopped listening. nonsense parading as some sort of medical doctor.
ReplyDeletePaging Doctor Quack, paging Doctor Quack.
DeleteYou are confusing osteopathy with homeopathy; doctor of osteopathy (DO) is same thing as MD, just different initials. Pretty much the same course of training; they are licensed to practice medicine/perform surgeries same as MD's, and are frequently heads of medical departments at major medical centers/universities.
DeleteNot that I blame you for being leery of quacks, though truth be told, there are plenty of MD's that are less useful than your run of the mill quack. Critical thinking skills/intellectual laziness can be lacking even in people who are great at doing schoolwork.
People keep forgetting that these products are "experimental" gene therapy.
ReplyDeleteNothing wrong with remaining a placebo.
My mother just got the call for hers. I figure I'll be attending a funeral in a few days.
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