Prosecutors Offer Plea Deal to NYC Lawyers Who Firebombed Police Vehicle
Federal prosecutors have offered a plea deal to two New York City lawyers accused of fire-bombing a police car and distributing Molotov cocktails to rioters during protests that followed the death of George Floyd last summer.
Of course, unlike “conservatives” (just another word for dumbasses) The opposition knows how to take care of each other. But hey! Let’s all hold hands and pray to the constitution that all this unfairness gets straightened out by the courts. Seriously, would someone come get me when our side quits playing the fool?
Fine. But I damned-guarantee you they will never walk in public where a beat cop can spot them. It's not harassment - they just looked shifty. Prosecutor another Soros plant?
Bullshit bob. Beat cops do as their masters tell them. To back up this claim I use for evidence the stack of bodies from all the BLM riots in 2020. Pigs aren’t your friends Neither are their families
They both should be disbarred and thrown in Attica for at least 10 years without parole, but they will probably not even have to plead guilty to their felonies.
I normally don't have a problem with plea bargaining cases to ensure a conviction of someone who possibly might get away with a serious crime. One of the most important things that we in America enjoy, and must always maintain, is that right of being innocent unless and until proven guilty. Many countries and even our own military doesn't contain that right. Yet it is perhaps one of the most important, yet least considered, rights that we have. Just by looking at how the various nations of the world determine a verdict in a court of law, shows how very important innocent until proven guilty really is. A person might have been recorded on video committing a crime, and yet they still have the right to a fair, speedy trial. In a case such as this one, because these two people are lawyers, there is no ability to call on the consideration of confusion of the charges, in fact, since they are lawyers, they perhaps should be held to a higher standard of conduct. In my background as a non lawyer, it would see that the main thing that these two lawyers will be seeking is to avoid the charge of a felony hanging over their heads, which would disqualify them from ever being a lawyer, in probably most states. I don't really care so much that they are able to keep their membership in the BAR, in their state where they practice in, as much as they are punished enough that it makes a serious impression upon them. Perhaps a sentence of 20-40 years, with all except a year being suspended. That way, they will serve some very real jail time, so as to ensure that they get the message, but more importantly, they will have the rest of their sentence hanging over their heads for a period of time, should they mess up again. That would tend to force them onto a path that is very straight and narrow. If picked up once again for criminal behavior, including the events that brought them into the discussion before, they would be sent to jail to continue the rest of their sentence, without even having to charge them with a new crime. As shitty as it is, we have to always remember that people with money are able to game the system, no matter how outrageous their crime. We can hate it, we can bitch and moan, contact our government representatives, etc. But it is something that we will just never change, no matter how unfair it is. The best we can hope for is that both celebrities and the rich or connected, are held to a standard of behavior, which we know won't be the same as the rest of us, but at the least will hurt them. If Lori Laughlin and her husband spend prison time, simply for paying kickbacks to a college, then these two lowlifes should spend some serious time in prison as well. I am not negating the wrong the Lori Laughlin and her husband did, just saying that it is nowhere as serious a crime as engaging in domestic terrorism, which these lawyers did. How this case is handled will tell a very lot about how the Democrats plan on really acting during the next 4 years. I hope that people are already planning for the 2022 elections. A president without either house is unlikely to get much done, no matter what kind of a pen and cellphone that they have.
Folks, this should be seen as good news by all. Fairness is not the way to be viewing this action. The law is what it is, if it is being ignored by those employed to uphold it then that is just how the game should be played. No rules is very simple. Cut power, deny resupply. Let the cities and all the vermin within be reborn into usefulness by the great cleansing with fire.
Disbarred, evicted, forced to carry sandwichboards that say, " I was a scumbag lawyer who was carrying out criminal activity on the streets of NYC. Please throw shit at me and call me names". And then hung in public for all to see. The law needs to send a message. Not one that slaps the wrist. This is why the USA is at the point it is at. Fuck these 2 assholes.
"living the American dream their immigrant parents had aspired for them"
So, their immigrant parents support law breaking? These people are trained lawyers. They KNEW, from their training, that they were going to commit FELONY LEVEL ARSON. Yet, they did it anyway, probably assuming they wouldn't get caught. Oops!
Make examples of them. They should get 30-Life with no time off for good behavior.
It's time we stopped molly coddling these silver spoon, think their shit don't stink, people. If these two were black and from a poor background, they'd already be piping light to them.
Quoting from HuffPo: Mattis is a corporate lawyer educated at Princeton and NYU Law; Rahman went to Fordham Law and works for Bronx Legal Services, helping low-income clients fight evictions in housing court. Both grew up in New York and are deeply connected to their communities.
Mattis and Rahman — a Black man and Muslim woman — sit in jail at the same time that the police officers who fatally shot Breonna Taylor have not even had charges brought against them.
I have been a prosecutor in Courts which were under the British legal system, in what was once a British Colony. There was nothing like a 'plea-bargaining' process, ever. Insofar as the Defence was concerned, all I had to ensure was that they were in possession of all of the evidence I was going to lead. Any further 'co-operation' with the Defence was forbidden. The Defendants were prosecuted under the full force of Law. It was up to the presiding Judge to decide whether or not there were any mitigating circumstances prior to delivering both verdict and sentence. Probably the worst thing that has evolved in the US system of so-called Justice is the concept of 'plea bargaining'. It is the open door to corruption.
Did anyone really expect anything different?
ReplyDeleteLawyers taking care of lawyers
ReplyDeleteOf course, unlike “conservatives” (just another word for dumbasses)
ReplyDeleteThe opposition knows how to take care of each other.
But hey! Let’s all hold hands and pray to the constitution that all this unfairness gets straightened out by the courts.
Seriously, would someone come get me when our side quits playing the fool?
Fine. But I damned-guarantee you they will never walk in public where a beat cop can spot them. It's not harassment - they just looked shifty. Prosecutor another Soros plant?
ReplyDeleteBullshit bob.
DeleteBeat cops do as their masters tell them.
To back up this claim I use for evidence the stack of bodies from all the BLM riots in 2020.
Pigs aren’t your friends
Neither are their families
"Robin Leach here with another episode of Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous."
ReplyDeleteMark Lesko, federal prosecutor who signed the plea; a Long Island Democrat.
ReplyDeleteThey both should be disbarred and thrown in Attica for at least 10 years without parole, but they will probably not even have to plead guilty to their felonies.
ReplyDeleteI normally don't have a problem with plea bargaining cases to ensure a conviction of someone who possibly might get away with a serious crime. One of the most important things that we in America enjoy, and must always maintain, is that right of being innocent unless and until proven guilty. Many countries and even our own military doesn't contain that right. Yet it is perhaps one of the most important, yet least considered, rights that we have. Just by looking at how the various nations of the world determine a verdict in a court of law, shows how very important innocent until proven guilty really is. A person might have been recorded on video committing a crime, and yet they still have the right to a fair, speedy trial.
ReplyDeleteIn a case such as this one, because these two people are lawyers, there is no ability to call on the consideration of confusion of the charges, in fact, since they are lawyers, they perhaps should be held to a higher standard of conduct.
In my background as a non lawyer, it would see that the main thing that these two lawyers will be seeking is to avoid the charge of a felony hanging over their heads, which would disqualify them from ever being a lawyer, in probably most states. I don't really care so much that they are able to keep their membership in the BAR, in their state where they practice in, as much as they are punished enough that it makes a serious impression upon them. Perhaps a sentence of 20-40 years, with all except a year being suspended. That way, they will serve some very real jail time, so as to ensure that they get the message, but more importantly, they will have the rest of their sentence hanging over their heads for a period of time, should they mess up again. That would tend to force them onto a path that is very straight and narrow. If picked up once again for criminal behavior, including the events that brought them into the discussion before, they would be sent to jail to continue the rest of their sentence, without even having to charge them with a new crime.
As shitty as it is, we have to always remember that people with money are able to game the system, no matter how outrageous their crime. We can hate it, we can bitch and moan, contact our government representatives, etc. But it is something that we will just never change, no matter how unfair it is. The best we can hope for is that both celebrities and the rich or connected, are held to a standard of behavior, which we know won't be the same as the rest of us, but at the least will hurt them.
If Lori Laughlin and her husband spend prison time, simply for paying kickbacks to a college, then these two lowlifes should spend some serious time in prison as well. I am not negating the wrong the Lori Laughlin and her husband did, just saying that it is nowhere as serious a crime as engaging in domestic terrorism, which these lawyers did. How this case is handled will tell a very lot about how the Democrats plan on really acting during the next 4 years. I hope that people are already planning for the 2022 elections. A president without either house is unlikely to get much done, no matter what kind of a pen and cellphone that they have.
Professional courtesy.
ReplyDeleteFolks, this should be seen as good news by all.
ReplyDeleteFairness is not the way to be viewing this action.
The law is what it is, if it is being ignored by those employed to uphold it then that is just how the game should be played. No rules is very simple.
Cut power, deny resupply. Let the cities and all the vermin within be reborn into usefulness by the great cleansing with fire.
Disbarred, evicted, forced to carry sandwichboards that say, " I was a scumbag lawyer who was carrying out criminal activity on the streets of NYC. Please throw shit at me and call me names". And then hung in public for all to see. The law needs to send a message. Not one that slaps the wrist. This is why the USA is at the point it is at. Fuck these 2 assholes.
ReplyDelete"living the American dream their immigrant parents had aspired for them"
ReplyDeleteSo, their immigrant parents support law breaking? These people are trained lawyers. They KNEW, from their training, that they were going to commit FELONY LEVEL ARSON. Yet, they did it anyway, probably assuming they wouldn't get caught. Oops!
Make examples of them. They should get 30-Life with no time off for good behavior.
It's time we stopped molly coddling these silver spoon, think their shit don't stink, people. If these two were black and from a poor background, they'd already be piping light to them.
Nemo
Quoting from HuffPo:
ReplyDeleteMattis is a corporate lawyer educated at Princeton and NYU Law; Rahman went to Fordham Law and works for Bronx Legal Services, helping low-income clients fight evictions in housing court. Both grew up in New York and are deeply connected to their communities.
Mattis and Rahman — a Black man and Muslim woman — sit in jail at the same time that the police officers who fatally shot Breonna Taylor have not even had charges brought against them.
I trust there are no questions.
I have been a prosecutor in Courts which were under the British legal system, in what was once a British Colony. There was nothing like a 'plea-bargaining' process, ever.
ReplyDeleteInsofar as the Defence was concerned, all I had to ensure was that they were in possession of all of the evidence I was going to lead. Any further 'co-operation' with the Defence was forbidden.
The Defendants were prosecuted under the full force of Law. It was up to the presiding Judge to decide whether or not there were any mitigating circumstances prior to delivering both verdict and sentence.
Probably the worst thing that has evolved in the US system of so-called Justice is the concept of 'plea bargaining'. It is the open door to corruption.
50 lashes with a wet noodle, coming up!
ReplyDeleteProviding fire bombs to a crowd of rioters? Terrorism maybe??? Gitmo?
ReplyDelete