Over 100 people in Washington state have tested positive for COVID-19 more than two weeks after becoming fully vaccinated against the disease, officials said.
Your chance of dying from Covid-19 if you're a regular, non-obese person with no co-morbidities: .6%. Your chance of dying from the vaccine? Unknown because it was never tested and is a gene therapy, not a vaccine. The so-called "HCQ cocktail", and "Ivermectin cocktail" are also therapies and have been proven to work well; either will cost about $30 for a course of treatment. This boils down to profit and greed by the pharmaceutical companies. And because they've called it a "vaccine", they can't be sued for ill-effects.
"The Washington State Department of Health is also investigating two potential breakthrough cases where the individuals died. Both patients were over 80 years old and suffered from underlying health issues."
So now that matters when it comes to the vaccine but not for the disease itself...
I read on one of Ken's Blogroll blogs this morning that more people have died after being 'vaccinated' in the first quarter of 2021 than died from vaccinations in the previous decade, total.
Very simple. I’ve vaccinated dog for parvo and still had them get it. Extremely rare but does happen. It’s called vaccine failure or vaccine breakthrough and the percentage mentioned in the article is only slightly higher than the animal vaccines I give. This really isn’t news. Oh and for the medical illiterates this is a vaccine. The rabies shot I give cats every day is the same exact technology. And it is a vaccine.
How about this, then. The government forces me to vaccinate my dog against rabies to protect people from possible dog bites, since rabies is deadly if not caught in time and treated. They are trying to force people to vaccinate against Covid 19, to protect other people from, what, possibly getting something that has somewhere around a 99.07% survival rate, if you even know you have it, since it is often symptom free. Fuck the government. That is also very simple.
You are incorrect. This is not a vaccine by any definition previous. This is in fact MRNA gene therapy and is new. Moderna has never developed a vaccine before. Look it up. Federal law explicitly prohibits it from being anything but voluntary due to its Emergency Use Authorization. Again, look it up, do not take my word for it. Think and decide for yourself. Please.
I really hate to disagree with someone that apparently has a lot more medical education than I do but...
I googled "how is the rabies vaccine made" which returned a link to the Philadelphia Children's Hospital website article on rabies vaccine from which the excerpt below is taken: How is the rabies vaccine made?
The rabies vaccine is grown in cells in the laboratory. Three different kinds of cells are used:
- Human cells obtained from a single elective abortion performed in the early 1960s - Chick embryo cells - Fetal rhesus lung cells
After the virus is grown in these cells, it is purified away from the cells and treated with a chemical (called beta-propiolactone) that completely kills the virus. The rabies vaccine is, like influenza and hepatitis A vaccines, a "killed" viral vaccine.
I then googled "how is the Covid 19 vaccine made" which returned numerous articles about the "experimental messenger RNA technology", i.e. gene altering technology, which is worlds different from the "standard method" of using dead or severely weakened virus to make a vaccine that has been in existence since the first vaccine was invented by Edward Jenner in 1796.
Now, the Johnson and Johnson inoculation, from the articles that I have read about it, uses the "standard method" of vaccine development similar to the rabies vaccine. However, the J&J inoculation only began distribution after approval on February 27, 2021, where the Pfizer/Moderna inoculation was approved December 11, 2020, and is, from all reports in the neighborhood of 20% of the administered inoculations to date.
So, your assertion that the "rabies shot I give cats every day is the same exact technology" is extremely misleading (I was going to call it the same as the stuff that comes out of the south end of a North bound bull, but figured I'd refrain, for once, from using the same condescending type of words that you used) AND only applies to the J&J vaccine.
The Pfizer and Moderna inoculations are not a vaccine. They are experimental gene therapy, which, lord knows what's going to result from it years down the road, and for which NO ONE CAN SUE THE MANUFACTURER OR APPLY FOR COMPENSATION FROM THE PREP ACT FUND, if it all goes wrong.
Sorry doc but you're wrong. This is gene therapy pure and simple and it hasn't been tested sufficiently to be in widespread dissemination. Something else is in play here; since when have you seen a media blitz this extensive trying to force the population to do anything?
@rayvet I don’t know what you are trying to accomplish with your BS. Nemo went into the rabies vaccine so I won’t repeat; however, all experimentation with mRNA shots conducted on animals up to this point has resulted in the death of the animal. Altering the body’s DNA to enable cells to create the spike protein associated with SARS is gene therapy, not a vaccine. The inherent problem with this type of gene modification is that one of two things happens as has been seen during animal trials. One, the body sees that it’s own cells are making the spike protein so when a SARS virus variant enters the body the immune system ignores it as something the body already makes. This allows the virus to replicate out of control, killing the host. Two, the body overreacts to the spike protein sending the immune system into overdrive, known as a cytokine storm, also killing the host. These death numbers are not trivial as you state. More people have died from the shot in the US than have died from COVID in my state. Two scales yes, but still an important distinction. When the heads of research of the companies making these shots call them gene modification, I take their word for it over some veterinarian who says rabies shots are the same thing.
There is no such thing as a 100% effective vaccine. The flu shot I get every year is nothing but a best guess at which antigen will be circulating in any given year. 102 breakthrough cases out of 1.2 million vaccinated is a vanishingly small set. Not trying to sell anyone on the vaccine though because that is up to you. I got it and it has not affec@#lkjb&(* m78^%$#@.....
Well, then, there are the public, on the record statements by the internationally renowned virologists, public health professionals, physicians, and clinical researchers, Professor C. Harris, Dokter N. Pride, Adjunct Professor D. Feinstein, all agreeing that any vaccine Mr. Trump was involved with was shady.
That's enough for me! Their medical schools, and careers, certainly outshine mine!
Simple. It. Is. Not . A. Vaccine.
ReplyDeleteYup!
ReplyDeleteNOT A VACCINE!
If I get vaccinated
ReplyDeleteAm I resistant to covid?
Government: Maybe, but we don’t know for sure…..point proven - NO you are not
At least I am no longer contagious to others?
Government: No, you can possibly still pass it on, no one knows. point proven yes
you can.
Why? because it's gene therapy, not a vaccine. that apparently doesn't work all that
well
Nemo
Your chance of dying from Covid-19 if you're a regular, non-obese person with no co-morbidities: .6%.
DeleteYour chance of dying from the vaccine? Unknown because it was never tested and is a gene therapy, not a vaccine. The so-called "HCQ cocktail", and "Ivermectin cocktail" are also therapies and have been proven to work well; either will cost about $30 for a course of treatment.
This boils down to profit and greed by the pharmaceutical companies. And because they've called it a "vaccine", they can't be sued for ill-effects.
"The Washington State Department of Health is also investigating two potential breakthrough cases where the individuals died. Both patients were over 80 years old and suffered from underlying health issues."
ReplyDeleteSo now that matters when it comes to the vaccine but not for the disease itself...
Jeremy P.
I read on one of Ken's Blogroll blogs this morning that more people have died after being 'vaccinated' in the first quarter of 2021 than died from vaccinations in the previous decade, total.
DeleteVery simple. I’ve vaccinated dog for parvo and still had them get it. Extremely rare but does happen. It’s called vaccine failure or vaccine breakthrough and the percentage mentioned in the article is only slightly higher than the animal vaccines I give. This really isn’t news. Oh and for the medical illiterates this is a vaccine. The rabies shot I give cats every day is the same exact technology. And it is a vaccine.
ReplyDeleteHow about this, then. The government forces me to vaccinate my dog against rabies to protect people from possible dog bites, since rabies is deadly if not caught in time and treated. They are trying to force people to vaccinate against Covid 19, to protect other people from, what, possibly getting something that has somewhere around a 99.07% survival rate, if you even know you have it, since it is often symptom free.
DeleteFuck the government. That is also very simple.
You are incorrect. This is not a vaccine by any definition previous. This is in fact MRNA gene therapy and is new. Moderna has never developed a vaccine before. Look it up. Federal law explicitly prohibits it from being anything but voluntary due to its Emergency Use Authorization. Again, look it up, do not take my word for it. Think and decide for yourself. Please.
Delete@Rayvet
DeleteI really hate to disagree with someone that apparently has a lot more medical education than I do but...
I googled "how is the rabies vaccine made" which returned a link to the Philadelphia Children's Hospital website article on rabies vaccine from which the excerpt below is taken:
How is the rabies vaccine made?
The rabies vaccine is grown in cells in the laboratory. Three different kinds of cells are used:
- Human cells obtained from a single elective abortion performed in
the early 1960s
- Chick embryo cells
- Fetal rhesus lung cells
After the virus is grown in these cells, it is purified away from the cells and treated with a chemical (called beta-propiolactone) that completely kills the virus. The rabies vaccine is, like influenza and hepatitis A vaccines, a "killed" viral vaccine.
I then googled "how is the Covid 19 vaccine made" which returned numerous articles about the "experimental messenger RNA technology", i.e. gene altering technology, which is worlds different from the "standard method" of using dead or severely weakened virus to make a vaccine that has been in existence since the first vaccine was invented by Edward Jenner in 1796.
Now, the Johnson and Johnson inoculation, from the articles that I have read about it, uses the "standard method" of vaccine development similar to the rabies vaccine. However, the J&J inoculation only began distribution after approval on February 27, 2021, where the Pfizer/Moderna inoculation was approved December 11, 2020, and is, from all reports in the neighborhood of 20% of the administered inoculations to date.
So, your assertion that the "rabies shot I give cats every day is the same exact technology" is extremely misleading (I was going to call it the same as the stuff that comes out of the south end of a North bound bull, but figured I'd refrain, for once, from using the same condescending type of words that you used) AND only applies to the J&J vaccine.
The Pfizer and Moderna inoculations are not a vaccine. They are experimental gene therapy, which, lord knows what's going to result from it years down the road, and for which NO ONE CAN SUE THE MANUFACTURER OR APPLY FOR COMPENSATION FROM THE PREP ACT FUND, if it all goes wrong.
Nemo
If a cat got a rabies shot and was still able to acquire and pass on rabies to others would you still insist it be given?
DeleteSorry doc but you're wrong. This is gene therapy pure and simple and it hasn't been tested sufficiently to be in widespread dissemination.
DeleteSomething else is in play here; since when have you seen a media blitz this extensive trying to force the population to do anything?
@rayvet I don’t know what you are trying to accomplish with your BS.
DeleteNemo went into the rabies vaccine so I won’t repeat; however, all experimentation with mRNA shots conducted on animals up to this point has resulted in the death of the animal.
Altering the body’s DNA to enable cells to create the spike protein associated with SARS is gene therapy, not a vaccine. The inherent problem with this type of gene modification is that one of two things happens as has been seen during animal trials.
One, the body sees that it’s own cells are making the spike protein so when a SARS virus variant enters the body the immune system ignores it as something the body already makes. This allows the virus to replicate out of control, killing the host.
Two, the body overreacts to the spike protein sending the immune system into overdrive, known as a cytokine storm, also killing the host.
These death numbers are not trivial as you state. More people have died from the shot in the US than have died from COVID in my state. Two scales yes, but still an important distinction.
When the heads of research of the companies making these shots call them gene modification, I take their word for it over some veterinarian who says rabies shots are the same thing.
Heh.
DeleteYour local vet charged with expressing your dog's impacted anal glands...
...lecturing on human genetics/DNA/RNA/Virology.
What could possibly go wrong?
Human beings are not cats.
DeleteCall me a speciesist, but I would like to see higher standards applied to medicine for people than for cats.
There is no such thing as a 100% effective vaccine. The flu shot I get every year is nothing but a best guess at which antigen will be circulating in any given year. 102 breakthrough cases out of 1.2 million vaccinated is a vanishingly small set. Not trying to sell anyone on the vaccine though because that is up to you. I got it and it has not affec@#lkjb&(* m78^%$#@.....
ReplyDeleteWould you really trust anything out of Washington State government at this point?
ReplyDeleteShort answer, no!
DeleteLong answer, oh hell fucking no, what kind of drugs rotted your last brain cell?
Well, then, there are the public, on the record statements by the internationally renowned virologists, public health professionals, physicians, and clinical researchers, Professor C. Harris, Dokter N. Pride, Adjunct Professor D. Feinstein, all agreeing that any vaccine Mr. Trump was involved with was shady.
ReplyDeleteThat's enough for me! Their medical schools, and careers, certainly outshine mine!
(In case it's needed, that's sarcasm)