MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — The unique circumstances surrounding Derek Chauvin's trial in George Floyd's death could offer the former Minneapolis police officer some shot at winning a retrial on appeal, though most legal experts agree it's a long shot.
To quote an icon of our times, "At this point, what difference does it make?" His life is ruined beyond repair, and if he were justly acquitted of this action, the Feds are lined up to take their shot at him and his cohorts. The only thing to come out of this will be the mass exodus of good policemen with no one to take their place except the jerks who look on the job only as a way to get power over other people. I fear for the future.
No sir, that is not quite right. The mass exodus will happen. Then the slots will be filled with evil rapists, murderers, thieves, antifa, and communists. They will wear the uniform as a skin suit.
There is no way out but thru. It is going to be a bloody mess. We will probably lose. I just plan to take some with me. Steve in KY
Legal experts. Do not think any really exist. Appeal does not have a jury and if yo can change the venue to maybe Texas because there is too much in Minneapolis for a fair trial he will be aquitted.
Chauvin should have got off Floyd. Not that it would have made any difference to Floyd.
If the courts were not politically biased, yes, but that is not the case. He’s fucked, Kyle Rittenhouse is fucked, the list is growing by the day, just ask Rudy. They didn't hold up a stolen election , think they are gonna hold up a cops charge on a murder rap? Not under this Bigtop. Nothing will change until.....(fill in the blanks)
The media frenzy, Mad Maxine's inflammatory statements and many other factors would lend to a near certain appeal resulting in a retrial.....in an HONEST court. Problem is there are very few honest nonpartisan judges left on ANY bench in America. So don't hold your breath if you think he should gets retrial. He is the CHOSE SCAPEGOAT of the moment. Real justice is tr LAST thing the media and they masters in power want.
The jrrs ADMITTED on tee vee interview, they knew if they didn't convict there would be riots. 'Splain to me how thats a fair trial. At the very least, he gets a retrial.
Mistake #1 was no change of venue, not that I believe there was anyone in the country that didn't know who Derrick Chauvin is and what he did. With the riots that resulted from Floyd's death, there is no way he could get a fair trial anywhere in the country. Mistake #2 was not sequestering the jury. Those two issues, among a couple others, will get the verdicts overturned.
Whether he is retried is an entirely different matter. Knowing The Usurper administration's quest for "justice and equity", they'll carry through with a federal retrial if WI doesn't retry, although that far left wing radical DA they've got up there will do whatever it takes to get another trial.
After viewing each moment of all the video of the suicide of george floyd, I think each First Responder acted to save his life... including Officer Derek Chauvin.
Just read this AM that the feds were all set to arrest him in court if the verdict went otherwise. Once they've made you a scapegoat, you life is over.
I heard Mas Ayoob, a man who knows the most about criminal use of force and such, in regards to the court system, say how he would handle it. He said that he would have laid down on the floor, and had the defense attorney ask him questions during 9 minutes and 29 seconds, or however long it was. And all the while, he would answer the questions, such as I am uncomfortable, but I can breathe fine, my chest hurts a little, but not too badly, etc. There are plenty of reasons for an appeal, not the least of which is the judge telling the Prosecutor not to even raise some last minute evidence they just found, or he would consider calling a mistrial, the Prosecutor then raises the issue, and the judges does nothing, not even a reprimand. That right there should show possible bias on the part of the judge, who no doubt wanted his house and family to all remain safe and standing. Not that I blame him, but it would have been easy to move the trial and recuse himself.
"I heard Mas Ayoob, a man who knows the most about criminal use of force and such, in regards to the court system, say how he would handle it. He said that he would have laid down on the floor, and had the defense attorney ask him questions during 9 minutes and 29 seconds, or however long it was. And all the while, he would answer the questions, such as I am uncomfortable, but I can breathe fine, my chest hurts a little, but not too badly, etc."
There's not a judge out there who would have allowed that.
To quote an icon of our times, "At this point, what difference does it make?"
ReplyDeleteHis life is ruined beyond repair, and if he were justly acquitted of this action, the Feds are lined up to take their shot at him and his cohorts. The only thing to come out of this will be the mass exodus of good policemen with no one to take their place except the jerks who look on the job only as a way to get power over other people. I fear for the future.
No sir, that is not quite right.
DeleteThe mass exodus will happen. Then the slots will be filled with evil rapists, murderers, thieves, antifa, and communists.
They will wear the uniform as a skin suit.
There is no way out but thru. It is going to be a bloody mess. We will probably lose. I just plan to take some with me.
Steve in KY
Steve, that's almost exactly what Oldvet said.
DeleteDepends on how white the judge is!
ReplyDeleteTrue. A black judge could overturn the conviction. I white judge would fear being dox'ed by a journalist and have their house burned down.
DeleteWorked for George Zimmerman! Less talk and more hollow points!
DeleteChauvin was railroaded in my opinion and sadly, I believe he will be shiv'd in prison before any appeal effort is mounted.
ReplyDeleteLegal experts. Do not think any really exist. Appeal does not have a jury and if yo can change the venue to maybe Texas because there is too much in Minneapolis for a fair trial he will be aquitted.
ReplyDeleteChauvin should have got off Floyd. Not that it would have made any difference to Floyd.
But a fair trial can not be had in that city.
If the courts were not politically biased, yes, but that is not the case. He’s fucked, Kyle Rittenhouse is fucked, the list is growing by the day, just ask Rudy. They didn't hold up a stolen election , think they are gonna hold up a cops charge on a murder rap? Not under this Bigtop. Nothing will change until.....(fill in the blanks)
ReplyDeleteThe media frenzy, Mad Maxine's inflammatory statements and many other factors would lend to a near certain appeal resulting in a retrial.....in an HONEST court. Problem is there are very few honest nonpartisan judges left on ANY bench in America. So don't hold your breath if you think he should gets retrial. He is the CHOSE SCAPEGOAT of the moment. Real justice is tr LAST thing the media and they masters in power want.
ReplyDeleteThe jrrs ADMITTED on tee vee interview, they knew if they didn't convict there would be riots. 'Splain to me how thats a fair trial.
ReplyDeleteAt the very least, he gets a retrial.
Retrial? Where? Where could he possibly get a fair trial?
DeleteRussia.
DeleteIn my town but yes his life is already ruined.
DeleteMistake #1 was no change of venue, not that I believe there was anyone in the country that didn't know who Derrick Chauvin is and what he did. With the riots that resulted from Floyd's death, there is no way he could get a fair trial anywhere in the country. Mistake #2 was not sequestering the jury. Those two issues, among a couple others, will get the verdicts overturned.
ReplyDeleteWhether he is retried is an entirely different matter. Knowing The Usurper administration's quest for "justice and equity", they'll carry through with a federal retrial if WI doesn't retry, although that far left wing radical DA they've got up there will do whatever it takes to get another trial.
Nemo
After viewing each moment of all the video of the suicide of george floyd, I think each First Responder acted to save his life... including Officer Derek Chauvin.
ReplyDeleteJust read this AM that the feds were all set to arrest him in court if the verdict went otherwise.
ReplyDeleteOnce they've made you a scapegoat, you life is over.
yeah, like that boy they railroaded in charlottesville.
ReplyDeleteI heard Mas Ayoob, a man who knows the most about criminal use of force and such, in regards to the court system, say how he would handle it. He said that he would have laid down on the floor, and had the defense attorney ask him questions during 9 minutes and 29 seconds, or however long it was. And all the while, he would answer the questions, such as I am uncomfortable, but I can breathe fine, my chest hurts a little, but not too badly, etc.
ReplyDeleteThere are plenty of reasons for an appeal, not the least of which is the judge telling the Prosecutor not to even raise some last minute evidence they just found, or he would consider calling a mistrial, the Prosecutor then raises the issue, and the judges does nothing, not even a reprimand. That right there should show possible bias on the part of the judge, who no doubt wanted his house and family to all remain safe and standing. Not that I blame him, but it would have been easy to move the trial and recuse himself.
"I heard Mas Ayoob, a man who knows the most about criminal use of force and such, in regards to the court system, say how he would handle it. He said that he would have laid down on the floor, and had the defense attorney ask him questions during 9 minutes and 29 seconds, or however long it was. And all the while, he would answer the questions, such as I am uncomfortable, but I can breathe fine, my chest hurts a little, but not too badly, etc."
DeleteThere's not a judge out there who would have allowed that.