House members are considering a bill that would that would expand the immunity given to people under South Carolina’s “stand your ground” law to victims who point their gun at an attacker, but don’t pull the trigger.
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Have people been prosecuted for showing a gun when threatened?
ReplyDeleteSome states have a brandishing law.
DeleteKinda like what happened in STL with the mcloskys
But in SC? Is there a reason for pre-emptive strike on something that has not happened?
DeleteOK. I was wrong. Pre-emptive is necessary.
DeleteNot what I expected. I have rarely seen a concept of a law so misinterpreted (whether due to ignorance or malice?). How many times did we hear about it with Zimmerman, and yet it had nothing to do with the case? This change is ACTUAL common sense, unlike many of the things anti's try to normalize by calling them 'common sense' despite it not being such, or having any supporting evidence.
ReplyDeleteMark and Patricia McCloskey. Just off the top of my head
ReplyDelete“It would give people carte blanche to escalate situations to potentially deadly ones by brandishing firearms whenever they feel threatened, which is the last thing we need,” Shelley said."
ReplyDeleteYeah, that is horrible that an innocent citizen might be able to avert being killed or maimed by a thug.
Only a typically psychopathic politician would think it better that an innocent citizen be killed than for violence and/or death be avoided with the result being nobody gets hurt because they gave the thug motivation to abort mission and flee....
Tim in AK
I keep saying this:
Delete* allowing the victim to flee is merely teaching them to attack different next time.
Her/his attack will eventually be successful... and that is on me for allowing my victim to escape.
Allowing the victim to learn transfers the attack to a weaker target.
If I do not permanently cripple or blind my victim, she/he will continue their felonious path.
And I'll keep agreeing with that statement. BTW, I'm guessing your handle is a moniker for your 6.5 or other large cal? Ohio Guy
DeleteThere are several people in the State of Florida who are serving hard time precisely for that loophole. It was applied at the discretion of the local DA, but it was indeed applied. Marissa Alexander used her gun to scare her ex away but did not shoot him on purpose but did discharge it (her kids were present) and earned her a felony conviction. The District Attorney that charged her? Angela Corey, the same one who gave the go ahead on the Zimmerman prosecution.
ReplyDeleteThe conviction of Ms Alexander was considered a perversion of the law. The principle used was that if you did not shoot at the attacker, then you were not truly in fear for your life so you actually committed assault with a deadly weapon and attempt of murder and assorted other legal horseshit.
The Florida Legislature ended up changing all Self Defense laws to include "use or threatened use of deadly force." Liberals and Media lost their minds and called it "Shoot in the air" law which would guarantee innocent people dropping dead by lost bullets shot by Floridian cowboys exercising their brand of justice. About a couple of weeks after passage, there was an incident in Northern Florida (I think Jacksonville) Where a rapist was attacking a woman and a citizen with a CWL drew his gun but could not make the shot because of the victim entangled with the rapist. The citizen shoot twice at some nearby dirt and the rapist stopped his attack. Under the old law, the citizen would have gone to jail.
And that was the end of that bullshit. So yes, make sure you have "use or threatened use of deadly force" in ALL your self defense laws in your state.
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ReplyDeleteSo, let me get this straight, 'Shoot, shovel, shut up.' is OK, but 'brandishing' might get you in trouble. Whoopsie.
If I have to pull it - you're going to be shot.
ReplyDeleteWaving it around is stupid. You pull it = use it.
Otherwise they'll prosecute.
Fk them, I'll protect my,and my family's life #1 priority.
Hear Hear!! grayman
DeleteWhen I was at least 16 I was working at our family ranch and I spied some man and a dog walking across our property. I jumped in my Jeep and went over to see what-the-fuck. The top of my Jeep was off so I stood up and laid a 410 shotgun on the top of the windshield pointed at him, and asked him why he was trasspassin? He was carrying a shotgun as well, but I had the drop on him.
ReplyDeleteHe thought he was still on my neighbor's property. Then I asked him, "When you crawled through that fence over yonder, it didn't occur to you that you might be traspassin?" He didn't argue, turned around and headed back across the fence.
After finding strange shotgun shells in one of my duck blinds, every time I would go to the ranch I would shoot one 12 gauge round into the palm leafed sides of the duck blind. One day some asshole jumped out and ran off. I never found other people's shells in my blinds again.
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