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Wednesday, October 20, 2021

Lawsuits demand unproven ivermectin for COVID patients

NEW YORK (AP) — Mask rules, vaccination mandates and business shutdowns have all landed in the courts during the COVID-19 outbreak, confronting judges with questions of science and government authority. Now they are increasingly being asked to weigh in on the deworming drug ivermectin. 

At least two dozen lawsuits have been filed around the U.S., many in recent weeks, by people seeking to force hospitals to give their COVID-stricken loved ones ivermectin, a drug for parasites that has been promoted by conservative commentators as a treatment despite a lack of conclusive evidence that it helps people with the virus.

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  1. Meanwhile mandates demand unproven gene therapy for the healthy.

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  2. From the "Horse De-wormer" fallacy, to 'unproven", to the snarky "anti-science" slant of the whole article, it just illustrates the bias and corruption of the media.

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  3. Hi Tone Idiots: conclusive evidence - In Other Words until we say so and big farma gets its ten points for the big guy

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  4. There are vaccines, which are supposed to prevent infection, and then there are therapeutics, which are supposed to treat it after infection sets in, to help the patient make it through the course of the disease and recover. Millions of people have received a COVID vaccine and it has doubtless saved lives. But a vaccine is not the only way to treat people during a pandemic.

    Ivermectin is a therapeutic. It is primarily used to treat humans with parasitical diseases, and it also has properties that make it useful as an antiviral therapeutic. It is used to treat dengue fever, for instance ("Break-bone fever"), a mosquito-borne RNA-type virus that can kill. RNA-type virus - just like COVID-19. Get it?

    Billions of doses of Ivermectin have been given to humans, and it has saved countless lives, especially in Africa. Calling it 'horse paste' as if that is its primary use is lying, pure & simple. It was included in medical kits that were distributed to millions in India as the COVID pandemic set it, because they couldn't get the vaccine doses.

    There are 7 countries that are presently using Ivermectin to treat COVID 19. and there are 13 more where it is unofficially used at the discretion of the treating physician. The USA is one of them.

    Look Here: https://c19early.com/ .....where you can see that there are over 60 fully-peer-reviewed studies that show a benefit from treating COVID with Ivermectin.

    When a journalist and media outlet is willing to go to such lengths to openly misrepresent such basic facts, you really have to put it right back on them, call them out and show them to be the shameful sycophants they really are.

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    1. Well said. Thank you.

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    2. To paraphrase Homer Simpson: you can use facts to prove anything that's remotely true.

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    3. The WA Medical Commission just suspended a doctor's license for proscribing ivermectin. This fucking state is run by evil people and they are just itching to issue a vaccine mandate for all of us.

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    4. Agree, mostly. But the MSM gets away with it because 99.8% of people can't be bothered to look anything up to check on them. IVM went into those Covid Kits not because of a lack of vaccine, but to TREAT the sick. The "vaccines" do NOT treat the illness - I'd bet it's nearly suicide to get them while you are sick with the 'rona.

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  5. Why the MSM and .gov continue to cling to the total BS narrative that ivermectin is just an anti-parasitic or strictly meant for livestock is beyond me. WTF!!

    Japan recently began widespread use of the drug (the version for HUMAN use) and hospitalizations dropped dramatically. Of course, the MSM calls the success they've seen recently "mysterious" and "unexplained" and refuse to mention that it has anything to do with ivermectin.

    We are being lied to big time!

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  6. Anyone else notice that the pictures are always for the equine paste and never the human packaged product?

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  7. Framing. There is no 'proven' treatment for COVID.

    Ivermectin - another drug that while proven effective against specific diseases may be effective against others because we don't really understand how it works when it works.

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    1. Nitric oxide.
      Carageenan.
      Ivermectin.
      Hydroxychloroquine.
      Quercetin Phytosome.
      Fluvoxamine.
      Proxalutamide.

      These are all direct treatments that work, proven by RWE (real world evidence) as well as clinical trials, at least in the early stages if not longer. Some also work as prophylaxis. There are quite a number more that work as adjuvants (helpers) such as Pepcid, vitamin D3, NAC, Colchicine, zinc, and so on. Heavy dose IV vitamin C most likely works but has been ignored by nearly everyone, even the FLCCC. All because a rigged trail by the Mayo Clinic way back when said that it didn't cure cancer, because Linus Pauling had said that it could. You know what else is a cancer treatment? Ivermectin. And fenbendazole, another animal de-wormer. Neither works on ALL cancers, but both work on some of them.


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  8. It appears that Ivermectin is so unproven and dangerous it's only used on Congressional staff and their families. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/10/09/report-100-to-200-congressional-reps-and-staff-were-treated-with-ivermectin-protocol-from-front-line-covid-critical-care-doctors/

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    1. It's also being given to illegals crossing into the US... for parasitic infection, of course (wink,wink), can't have the replacement workforce spreading covid variants. Oh shit, did I say that out loud?

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  9. For what it's worth, note the source and wording. This is *not* what an impartial report looks like. Sniff sniff...it that gas?

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    1. "Sniff sniff...it that gas?"

      Funny you should say that, because we're about to announce that an old pesticide from the 1920s that's very effective in eliminating the COVID virus, especially when employed in uh...group dosings.
      - The Government

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  10. People who say Ivermectin doesn't help fight COVID are either ignorant or they're lying.

    Ivermectin is given prophylactically to millions of people in Africa in order to prevent River Blindness and Elephantiasis. It has proven to be a miracle with respect to those diseases and the people who discovered Ivermectin were given the Nobel prize in Medicine in 2015.

    I think I've shared this study here before, but I believe it merits another mention.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7968425/

    What we have here, is an indirect study of Ivermectin over a large population partitioned into two groups: one received it, the other didn't.

    The group receiving Ivermectin had approximately 1/6th the number of cases and deaths (per unit of population). And that's just as a preventative!

    The default hypothesis has to be that Ivermectin is effective in preventing COVID. And this doesn't even go into its use as a theraputic in the early stages of the disease!

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7968425/

    -joely

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  11. LOL Yahoo News? This drug won a nobel prize when introduced, it does work and a lot of politicians are using it!

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  12. Here are two videos about the Joe Rogan/Sanjay Gupta fight over ivermectin.

    The guy with the hair is "Viva Frei" (David Freiheit) a Montreal lawyer who seems to be a good guy. In the first video Viva dissects Gupta's deceptive method of argumentation (which is very typical of certain groups of people).

    The guy without the hair is US lawyer Robert Barnes, who is very active fighting against "vaxx" mandates.

    Viva on Sanjay Gupta:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDBRGKFY50Y


    Viva and Barnes:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-L4MDLfQqU

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  13. 1. Yahoo News, so there's that. Yahoo News wouldn't know the truth, never mind report it, if it whacked them up side the head. 2. Look at the charts showing Covid cases vs timing of mass issuance of Ivermectin and/or hydroxychloroquine.

    https://covid19.onedaymd.com/2021/09/ivermectin-success-in-india-indias.html

    Nemo

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    1. Now, now, now. We can't say they work or Trump was right. Since we ALL know he's wrong, they can't work.

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  14. Did you notice recent reports of aspirin helping against COVID? Now more recent reports of aspirin “suddenly” being discovered as unnecessary for senior blood thinners. I believe I shall continue to take my daily baby aspirin as prescribed.
    Paul J

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    1. It's recent because the MSM is slow. Aspirin is a blood thinner, Covid-19 is a vascular disease that causes clots. Low dose aspirin has been part of the FLCCC protocol for over a year now. Just make sure you get a bit of extra vitamin C, as aspirin strips the body of C quickly.

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  15. Billy Bob in TexasOctober 20, 2021 at 6:09 PM

    Unproven? What BS. It's saved millions of lives and stomped out the WuFlu in India and Japan so far. Merke is just pissed it's off patent.

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    1. Good lord. Somebody better warn those poor victims in Uttar Pradesh, India. All 240 million of them.

      Their own government is forcing them to take horse dewormer along with dihydrogen monoxide, which is used in automobile radiators.

      Why, this is unconscionable. Don't they realize there have been no large scale clinical trials of Ivermectin?

      Self-serving assholes.

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  16. https://c19ivermectin.com/

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  17. Another, and widely-presribed, drug made by Pfizer is/was the smoking cessation drug, Chantix. In addition to being marketed for smoking, Chantix was also used, at first, as an off-label treatment for depression, and then was somehow mainstreamed as an anti-depressant. Chantix goes by a similar name in the UK and the EU, where anyone can get the costly prescription for free. Most medical plans in the U.S. also pay for the entire cost of prescription use for smoking cessation. Or did until Pfizer recently pulled all of it off the market and out of pharmacies because it contains many times over the "acceptable" levels of nitrosamines which ingested for long periods (as over the course of smoking cessation or depression) can increase the risk of cancer. The FDA, in its own wisdom, however, has not recommended people stop taking the drug and allows it under another name from Canada and has authorized a generic of Chantix for sale in the U.S. Go figure.

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  18. Nother "Unproven?"
    https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/tables/table-2e/

    Second item.

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  19. So here isn't story. Based on earlier post here, I went to the local ag. supply store and purchased the liquid 1% ivermectrin. That was the 1st. Of sept. I dosed myself of three units over 5 days. My wife declined and was vaxed mid sept. She came down with the China flu Oct 1. I then re dosed myself with the ivermectrin. I too came down with a week later. My wife's symptoms were much much worst than what I presented. We were both blessed to have been treated by local healthcare with the infusions. We have both recovered. I was back active much sober than my wife.

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    1. I hope your dose was in the 0.2mg/kg to 0.4mg/kg range. You might have fared better taking it once a week after your first dosing. What infusions are you talking about - monoclonal antibodies?

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  20. Bias much? The story opens with a picture of pony paste. Prescription IVM comes in pills ... although the pony paste or the livestock liquid works too. Not to mention the "unproven" BS (180 million people in India beg to differ), the "could be dangerous" (WHO says it's the safest drug ever made), "animal strength" (the pills weigh 400mg and contain 12mg IVM; the liquid weighs 1000mg/ml and contains 10mg IVM. So who's the animal now?) and on and on and on. The MSM is the enemy and wants you to die.

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  21. I read a post somewhere, of course I can't find it now, I think it was on Straightlinelogic. about a treatment regimen used in Spanish nursing homes in 2020. As soon as symptoms occur, double doses of Zyrtec and Claritin, Azithromycin, Hydroxychloroquine, Prednisone, Ivermectin, Levofloxacin, and another anti biotic that isn't used much in the US. Can't recall the name. There might have been some other med. After starting that treatment, they had 0 deaths or hospitalizations among residents or staff. Anyone else know anything about that?

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  22. NIH recommands Ivermectine:
    [link to www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov (secure)]

    "• The dose most commonly used in clinical trials is IVM 0.2–0.6 mg/kg PO given as a single dose or as a once-daily dose for up to 5 days."

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