People call the police about the darnedest things. For example, cops in rural Maine have to pull cars out of ditches every first snowfall of the season despite Maine being one of the most snowy states on the East Coast. Likewise, police in Dover, Delaware still get calls about jet noise despite Dover being home to the military’s largest airport.
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I've lived near one AFB or another most of my younger years. You don't even notice the sound of the aircraft after a little while.
I live next to a railroad. You don't notice it at 3 am as the whole house shakes gently. These days you REALLY don't notice it because it's only going 10 mph because Warren & Charlie won't spend a couple of their billions to maintain it.
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Like the new development near my gun club. Wasn't 'Gun Club Road' a tip-off?
ReplyDeleteAt Bragg in the late 80's they started building homes just south of the range. To get to them you had to drive through the reservation. So, people who bought the homes started complaining about the noise. A pentagon guy came down due to the complaints and we flew him by the area and he was like WTF????? I guess they only showed the houses on Sundays during holiday weekends. I lived 10 miles away and could hear the 8in cannons when they fired.
ReplyDeleteThe gun club I am in uses a red flag on the gate to indicate that grounds-work is in progress. The layout of the club grounds is such that the people doing the work may not be visible from a given firing position but still be in a position where they could 'catch' something coming over a berm, for instance. So no shooting except inside the pistol house while the flag is posted. We kicked a member who was a realtor out because he was using that flag to ensure silence while he was showing houses nearby. The last thing we wanted was somebody from down in the city trying to get on our case because they were led to believe there wasn't a gun club 100 yds away through that patch of woods. [rocketride]
DeleteGrandpa was artillery, retired in Lawton OK. Whole town could sleep through the night fire training missions... 'crump...... boom' But when there was a dud round, 'crump........ ... ..' then the next day - "man, I woke up a 2:30 am. What, you too?"
ReplyDeleteI bet most of the whiners are transplants from NY, Mass, Conn & NJ.
ReplyDeleteI bet you're right. And I AM a New Yorker. (Very much behind enemy lines.) [rocketride]
Delete"I've lived near one AFB or another most of my younger years. You don't even notice the sound of the aircraft after a little while."
ReplyDeleteI grew up within yards of the runway of an AFB (Stewart Field, NY). I never have lived more than 5 miles from it except for a year I spent living at college and a couple of years I spent living in NJ with a girlfriend. When my now wife (not same GF) and I finally bought a house, it was within 2 miles. (It's now an ANG base/ Combined Forces base/ civilian airport.) Depending on weather conditions, flight paths may be directly over our house. We get overflights of C-17s and C-130s all the time. We knew what we were getting when we bought it. Wife's cat, now deceased from very old age, freaked out for a couple of weeks but figured out that the big roaring things overhead weren't going to hurt her. [rocketride]
My first wife was from Rock Tavern. Used to drive by Stewart Field all the time on the way to her house.
DeleteI live across the river from Barksdale and I hear every B52 start up
ReplyDeleteAnd folks north started complaining of the noise (new developments). Those south knew what was going on…..
DeleteI live under one of the flight paths at Luke (Airbase, not Airport). You ignore it eventually. These people are the same ones that move into a rural area and complain about tractor traffic and noise, or that the air smells like dirt. Fuquem.
ReplyDeleteNothing like the sound of “jet noise”. I live 13mi line-of-sight from Ellsworth AFB and hear B-1Bs when they take off. They are the loudest aircraft in the AF inventory when in reheat. And they frequently overfly my house. BTW, the noise level is proportional to the exhaust velocity to the EIGHTH power. Ellsworth will be the first bomber base to receive the B-21, the new “Stealth” bomber.
ReplyDeletei used to work nights at Cessna directly north of the runway at McConnell AFB when a B1 took off to the north on afterburner you couldn't even hear a person talk who was directly in front of you everybody just learned to stop and wait. with the B52's it was a longer wait.
DeleteKind of like people who move to the country and then complain about the farm aroma.
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DeleteI lived on Dover AFB for 10yrs, and others.
ReplyDeleteAt some…. very Interesting times might I add.
These Moes are bitchin cause the base is busy doin KraineLandia Ops i bet.
You don’t hear the jets after about a month.
These are just…activists, cry babies, trolls, commies, pick one.
The cops ought to charge them and fine them 10K$ a phone call if these types of call keep up.
It’ll stop.
I've got Shaw AFB, McEntire ANG and Ft. Jackson all pretty close to where I live. Jets, Blackhawks and artillery training (when it's cloudy to suppress the noise) abound. The Blackhawks routinely invade my airspace and at pretty low altitude sometimes. It's awesome.
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In 1973, we lived within a couple of miles of the approach to Stapleton Airport, the predecessor to Denver International Airport. We had no A/C so left the windows open in the summer. This was before jet engines had been designed to deflect noise upward. We would lose a full minute of TV dialog every time a jet came in for a landing, and there were plenty of jets. You could not turn up the TV high enough to hear it over the noise. Needless to say, very few of the jets arrived during commercials.
ReplyDeleteIn the 80s and 90s lived a couple miles from New Castle airport in Delaware. Home of some of the R&D for the Ospery. Almost every week you could hear those twin rotors spin up and the roar of the engines when it would hover around. They did this year round for the 10 years I lived there. As a teenager my friends and I would like down to the airport and watch them play. It was pretty cool. Noise never bothered me. Here in no where central Wisconsin you notice every aircraft because it's so quite.
ReplyDeleteHere in Hampton Roads VA, with Naval Air Station Oceana, Naval Station Norfolk Chambers Field, and Langley Air Force Base we get our share of jet noise. It's called the "Sound of Freedom"!
ReplyDeleteI was just going to say that! Son lives in VA beach and flyovers give me chills.....yes, sound of freedom. My liberal girlfriend, when we visited, didn't get it.
DeleteThere is an outdoor theater in San Diego's Balboa Park beneath the landing path for Lindbergh Field. When a jet flies over the actors on stage freeze in place until the jet passes and, once it's quiet, continue as if nothing happened.
ReplyDeleteIt's been interesting reading other people's comments about living near a base. My family ranch is 4 miles from Beale AFB's perimeter and 10 miles from its runways. I guess we're lucky because when you can hear the planes you can barely hear them at all. I can see the traffic approaching to the south at night but I can't hear them either. The ranch is an amazingly quiet place.
ReplyDeleteFun story: A few years back a fire started at night about a mile north of the ranch and was quickly put out as it was reported very early. It was called in by the control towers at the base, who saw the glow of the fire.
That fire could have easily reached the ranch it they hadn't gotten on it so quickly.
I grew up a few miles from the old Amarillo AFB. It was a SAC base with loads of B-52 bombers. Sometimes they would rattle the dishes if they came over low. I used to sleep right through them flying over. Your subconscious mind learns to filter out the noise.
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