Thursday, June 09, 2022
Court Rules That Police Can Inflict Pain On Detained Individuals
Police across the country have often been caught using excessive force during arrests and other confrontations. Even when such incidents are captured on video, officers are often able to escape punishment or other consequences. Such appears to be the case yet again. In a controversial ruling, a three-judge panel of the Fifth Circuit of the U.S. Court of Appeals ruled that an officer who admitted to twisting a teenage girl’s arms to cause her pain did not violate the law in his actions.
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What the court has done is say that it is not a violation of your rights for the police to torture people for information. For those of you who supported the police when they were waterboarding terrorists, this is why people like me were opposed to that. Just wait until they are torturing your wife and kids for their computer passwords.
ReplyDeleteTurnabout is fair play....
ReplyDelete"officers are often able to escape punishment or other consequences" at the moment.
ReplyDeleteKeep this shit up and you won't escape punishment or consequences for long.
Seems like every week or so there's some article about a government thug getting shot or injured. 15 years ago I would have been concerned enough to post "prayers" or some other such bullshit as a comment. Now I just sit there and think to myself "What do I care if a bad cop gets shot? They wouldn't hesitate to shoot me or my family over dumb shit like a speeding ticket or seatbelt violation. Hell--they'd literally leave my kids to die in a school with an active shooter because they're a bunch of pussies."
I don't shed a tear when a cop gets shot, because they're all thugs. If you think you know a good cop, ask him why he hasn't resigned yet.
"If you think you know a good cop, ask him why he hasn't resigned yet."
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Yeah, turns out pain compliance works. Imagine that.
ReplyDeleteSo , the courts have ruled that the police have no duty to help you , and it is alright for them to deliberately hurt citizens now ? Sort of ass backwards isn't it?
ReplyDeleteNatch.
ReplyDeleteCounty Sheriff is elected. Deputies hired and/fired. Oversight. I’m good with that.
Staties and unionized badged orcs should reform, repent and chill the fuck out. Qualified immunity could end in a shallow grave. (Pure speculation, not a threat).
Even the Saudi religious police are getting close to their comeuppance.
Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice.
Those guys.
Same as…..
NKVD
Red Guards
SAVAK
Gestapo
FBI
Have a nice day.
Ragnar
Once upon a time, many years ago, I stopped to help a State Trooper in GA subdue a man who was whooping his ass on the side of the road. Even if I were still in the shape I was in at that time, I would not even slow down now.
DeleteGood to know. Pain is not cruel, nor unusual.
ReplyDeleteSoon torture will be standard police procedure.
ReplyDelete...but they'll scream and cry when one of their own gets killed in line of duty, then when children are being slaughtered within their own hearing, they stand around for an hour or so pulling their puds because, you know, they "might get shot or killed".
ReplyDeleteIf they are going to allowed to inflict pain, assuming that some of that pain is going to result in broken bones and/or dislocated joints, in direct contravention to the Fourth Amendment, where in hell is policing in this country headed?
This is the same thing the Gestapo, NKVD, Hongweibing and the Khmer Rouge, among others did to citizens of Germany under Hitler, Russia under Stalin, China under Mao and the Khmer Rouge under Pol Pot.
Stupid rulings like this are one of the many reasons that citizens of the USA are about at the end of their patience with federal, state and local government.
Nemo
"...but they'll scream and cry when one of their own gets killed in line of duty"
DeleteYeah. Now imagine the crush force of a dog bite against your arm, your neck, or your nuts combined with the instinctive action of trying to get the dog off you.
If you harm or kill the dog, they'll scream just as loudly that "one of their own" has been killed. As long as it wasn't an officer that beat the dog to death, shot it, left it in a hot car, etc...
In their eyes, dogs are tools to hurt you. And your human life is less valuable to them than a dog life.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander .
ReplyDeleteToo bad this ruling didn't come out a few weeks ago. They just charged the White cop that killed the feral who was resisting. Maybe if he knew he could have tortured him, he wouldn't have shot him.
ReplyDeleteIf someone is resisting arrest, I am ok with using pain compliance techniques that are standardized and taught, not some made up shit. I worked in a maximum security prison, where all you had was a can of OC. When you have to take down a 250 lb feral on flaka, or bath salts, talk to me about not being able to use pain compliance techniques. When it takes 4 men with a combined total weight of near a 1,000 lbs to stop one of these drug-fueled rage, retard strong feral lifers. Ever shut down a 200 lb man with a finger to the sternal notch? I have Im 5'7" 165 lbs. or, handle a large individual while he gets cuffed up? Writs locks and manipulations work, they are necessary. Ive had to live it. I taught three different services combatives programs, taught military law enforcement pain compliance techniques cause they work. A lot arm chair quarter backing opinions. How about when I had to transfer goat fucker detainees that smell like a shit compost? Unarmed manipulations and valid pain compliance techniques are part of the use of force model. Im not for torture, but whats every ones solution if you take those away? Go right from verbal commands to the taser? Or, maybe right to lethal force? Maybe get the facts right and speak to someone who has to do the job before ya'll cock off. I think everyone is interpreting the case as a judge says its just ok to cause pain? Yes, within the circumstance of applying proper pain compliance techniques. Most if done properly do not cause damage. Can they? Sure, especially if taken too far or done incorrectly. If they dont work then you get to up your level of use of force.
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