Civil rights and media groups opposed the measure that Republican Gov. Doug Ducey signed Thursday. The law makes it illegal in Arizona to knowingly video police officers 8 feet or closer without an officer’s permission.
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The biggest problem with the Surveillance State is the direction the cameras are pointing.
ReplyDeleteTime to get out the 400mm lens....
ReplyDeleteMelk
have pretty much always supported the blue, but,,, now some of the shit is gettin' sketchy. you aint doin' nothing wrong, what's the problem?
ReplyDeletebasically the constitution ends in an 8 foot bubble around cops. got it.
ReplyDelete8 feet is plenty to video without getting in the face of the police. It becomes unenforceable from about 6-1/2 feet to 8 feet because of imprecision in eyeballing exactly 8 feet, unless there is independent video that clearly establishes the distance. But this looks like a good balance between allowing the public to take video and the cops being free of harassment. Also, tying the encroachment to taking video arguably introduces Constitutional concerns. It would have been better to word the statute with an 8 foot distance without mentioning video.
ReplyDelete8 feet is not. It's an arbitrary number pulled from someone's ass. They have the right to surveil you but not the other way around...fuck the cockroaches and this fucking gubernor.
DeleteSure ... 8 foot is 'not getting in the face of the police' ... until officer friendly decides to advance on you. You have to move 8 foot further back ... until he repeats.
DeleteMark in PA
Read the law. If you're part of who is being questioned, you're alllowed to film. If you're in the passenger seat while the cop is talking to the driver, you're exempt and allowed to film.
DeleteWhen I first saw this, I was thinking it was good to keep bystanders back out of the situation while they monitored police activity. Then I realized that this law also precludes filming a traffic stop, where 99% of people encounter police and the most shit goes down. Overall: Bad law.
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The law doesn't apply if you're the one being questioned. You can film your own interaction with the police regardless of the distance.
DeleteSounds reasonable in today's environment. You can video just as good at 8 as you can at 1 foot. With the anti-cop sentiment being pushed, it is hard who are the bad characters. They should be able to arrest someone without their friends sticking a phone in their face and the cop having to determine it is a phone. And it says nothing about people without a phone.
ReplyDeleteAlso if the law says "knowingly" then that cancels the law because the person can claim they did not know the camera was turned on.
We're not "going toward" a police state anymore; it already is one.
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The people's business should be public.
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ReplyDeleteYou should read the linked story. Then your comment wouldn’t be so ignorant.
DeleteReading. It’s FUNdamental.
As cameras continue to shrink, how will they even know they're on camera? But of course this also empowers the surveillance state. -Joely
ReplyDelete"Era of transparency"? In what world does the headline writer live?
ReplyDeleteThis law is going to preclude the use of a dash cam or other in-car camera recording a traffic stop. It's a lot less than 8ft from the center of the dash or a rearview mirror to the drivers side window.
ReplyDeleteExcept if you're the one the cop is talking to, you're allowed to film away.
DeleteBy the way, if you're not the one the cop is talking to, your dash cam probably shouldn't be within 8 feet to begin withm
I've got no problem with this. The last thing a cop needs in a tense situation is an asshole in his face with a camera. As long as I can video if I'm the one interacting with the police.
ReplyDeleteIf they can get away with eight feet the will push for eighty. Count on it.
ReplyDeleteI'm just spitballing here, but maybe it would be a good idea to read the actual bill before commenting.
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