I had a similar thought. I wonder if that guy at the end is his "handler" who's supposed to be showing him the ropes and everything and this is like his first day? He's got a hell of a lot to learn, this one.
"Chauvin was following the current procedure book"
So kneeling on a guy's neck for 9+ minutes, while the guy was handcuffed, pleading for his life, is in the "procedure book"?
You sir or madam anonymous are an idiot. Chauvin was administering "dirty, power hungry cop justice" for which he was rightly convicted and is now serving 21 years in jail, as he should be, cop or not.
Nemo, St George of fentanyl died of an overdose. The CORRECT procedure is to keep them still and laid down which is what Chauvin was doing. Quit believing the enimedia.
(Old Tech) Hey Nemo. If you actually watched the video of Flipper Floyd and his antics, you would clearly have seen he was saying he couldn't breathe while HE WAS SITTING IN THE BACK OF THE CRUISER - whereupon he was brought OUT of the Police cruiser and laid on his side, then Chauvin had his knee on Floyd's shoulder, not his neck THAT IS THE ACTUAL WRITTEN PROCEDURE. Floyd's breathing was only impaired by DRUGS not a knee. George Floyd was doomed to die the instant he voluntarily took his lethal over dose. The biggest crime Chauvin ever committed was to shorten his coffee break by ten minutes whereupon that POS Floyd would have been dead when they showed up.
Hey Old Tech and all the rest of you - I watched ALL of the videos of Floyd being ridden by Chauvin. That's right RIDDEN.
The videos clearly showed one Chauvin's knees on the neck of Floyd, in addition to Chauvin's other knee being on Floyd's shoulder.
I also know that Floyd was a drug addict, low life criminal and was found with a lethal dose of fentanyl in his system during autopsy which the coroner determined probably killed him. He was no SAINT as some have written above implying that I think Floyd was NOT a low life criminal drug addict.
The two main points that convicted Chauvin were that he administered COP JUSTICE to an already subdued, IN HANDCUFFS, arrestee and failed to render aid to someone in OBVIOUS distress.
All of you can disagree all you want. Are you all telling me that Chauvin, after handcuffing Floyd, could not have called on the five or six other cops on site to assist him in getting Floyd into a cruiser for transport to jail?
Chauvin CHOSE to administer COP JUSTICE to Floyd to teach him a lesson about resisting arrest that contributed to Floyd's death.
Out of a jury of twelve people, NOT ONE was convinced that Chauvin was NOT guilty. That's all it would have taken to find that Chauvin did not murder Floyd. Yes, it would have resulted in a no verdict hung jury that upon retrial may have exonerated Chauvin.
We'll never know that.
You can also argue that the jury was intimidated by violent demonstrators into reaching the verdict that they did. Hogwash.
Chauvin is guilty of murder.
Also note that "procedures" have been changed, throughout the country in EVERY police department, to prevent officers from administering this kind of cop justice, once an arrestee is handcuffed. The revised "procedures" prohibit an officer from placing his weight fully or partially on the neck of the arrestee AND they also prohibit an officer from RIDING a handcuffed arrestee for an extended period. These changes were made as a result of this incident to protect both the arrestee and police.
In Kentucky, you are not under arrest until 3 things happen. 1) You are told you are under arrest. 2) You are told why you are being arrested. 3) You are under the control of the arresting officer either by force or submission.
That sergeant has been to "risk management" class and knew that if didn't stop Dudley DoWrong the city would be on the hook for monetary damages. If the sergeant wanted to actually serve society he would have had Mr Eager Beaver bBadgemonkey sent home. He didn't. So said sergeant is NOT a "good guy". Just a dollar minded administrator.
I think that it used to be that you were considered under arrest when the cop fired a warning shot... into the back of your head. Now it seems like only civilians can shoot that accurately, as shown by the recent hero that took out the food court shooter from some 40 yards away, hitting 8 out of 10 shots. I pray for him, that he is able to deal with the aftermath of the event plus the publicity that has come his way. The gun community should be cognizant of his need for time to get over the terrible emotional toll that any shooting puts on a person, good shoot or not. Still, a brave and well practiced man, in the right place at the right time.
Guess he slept through Cop class.
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The Po PO are not your friend....
ReplyDeleteOnly some... some are awesome, some are pricks.
DeletePower hungry asshole. His boss put him in his place.
ReplyDeleteI had a similar thought. I wonder if that guy at the end is his "handler" who's supposed to be showing him the ropes and everything and this is like his first day? He's got a hell of a lot to learn, this one.
DeleteOne of thousands.... that give the good apples a bad name. Police your own, so we don't have to.
ReplyDeleteI wish I could trust LEO/DA/DOJ to support and defend the Constitution, but I cannot.
ReplyDeleteBarney Fife award
ReplyDeleteI was thinking it's a good thing Andy was there to tamp his enthusiasm down.
Delete^^^YES!^^^
DeleteThat cop is going to be everything as bad as what the media says Chauvin is.
ReplyDeleteOnly difference is Chauvin was following the current procedure book.
"Chauvin was following the current procedure book"
DeleteSo kneeling on a guy's neck for 9+ minutes, while the guy was handcuffed, pleading for his life, is in the "procedure book"?
You sir or madam anonymous are an idiot. Chauvin was administering "dirty, power hungry cop justice" for which he was rightly convicted and is now serving 21 years in jail, as he should be, cop or not.
and unlike you, coward, I will identify myself.
Nemo
And George Floyd killed himself by swallowing his stash.
DeleteAnd had the misfortune to have George die of an overdose before aid could be rendered. Wonder what he did to have Karma crush him.
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Nemo, St George of fentanyl died of an overdose. The CORRECT procedure is to keep them still and laid down which is what Chauvin was doing. Quit believing the enimedia.
Delete(Old Tech) Hey Nemo. If you actually watched the video of Flipper Floyd and his antics, you would clearly have seen he was saying he couldn't breathe while HE WAS SITTING IN THE BACK OF THE CRUISER - whereupon he was brought OUT of the Police cruiser and laid on his side, then Chauvin had his knee on Floyd's shoulder, not his neck THAT IS THE ACTUAL WRITTEN PROCEDURE. Floyd's breathing was only impaired by DRUGS not a knee. George Floyd was doomed to die the instant he voluntarily took his lethal over dose. The biggest crime Chauvin ever committed was to shorten his coffee break by ten minutes whereupon that POS Floyd would have been dead when they showed up.
DeleteHey Old Tech and all the rest of you - I watched ALL of the videos of Floyd being ridden by Chauvin. That's right RIDDEN.
DeleteThe videos clearly showed one Chauvin's knees on the neck of Floyd, in addition to Chauvin's other knee being on Floyd's shoulder.
I also know that Floyd was a drug addict, low life criminal and was found with a lethal dose of fentanyl in his system during autopsy which the coroner determined probably killed him. He was no SAINT as some have written above implying that I think Floyd was NOT a low life criminal drug addict.
The two main points that convicted Chauvin were that he administered COP JUSTICE to an already subdued, IN HANDCUFFS, arrestee and failed to render aid to someone in OBVIOUS distress.
All of you can disagree all you want. Are you all telling me that Chauvin, after handcuffing Floyd, could not have called on the five or six other cops on site to assist him in getting Floyd into a cruiser for transport to jail?
Chauvin CHOSE to administer COP JUSTICE to Floyd to teach him a lesson about resisting arrest that contributed to Floyd's death.
Out of a jury of twelve people, NOT ONE was convinced that Chauvin was NOT guilty. That's all it would have taken to find that Chauvin did not murder Floyd. Yes, it would have resulted in a no verdict hung jury that upon retrial may have exonerated Chauvin.
We'll never know that.
You can also argue that the jury was intimidated by violent demonstrators into reaching the verdict that they did. Hogwash.
Chauvin is guilty of murder.
Also note that "procedures" have been changed, throughout the country in EVERY police department, to prevent officers from administering this kind of cop justice, once an arrestee is handcuffed. The revised "procedures" prohibit an officer from placing his weight fully or partially on the neck of the arrestee AND they also prohibit an officer from RIDING a handcuffed arrestee for an extended period. These changes were made as a result of this incident to protect both the arrestee and police.
Nemo
Nemo, isn't that a disney fish oh yes a clown fish.
Deleteyeh, Hands up,don't shoot too. pfbbt
DeleteIn Kentucky, you are not under arrest until 3 things happen. 1) You are told you are under arrest. 2) You are told why you are being arrested. 3) You are under the control of the arresting officer either by force or submission.
ReplyDeleteMore stupid orc nonsense, they just hate when they are wrong, so they are never wrong . Little fookin worm orc
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That sergeant has been to "risk management" class and knew that if didn't stop Dudley DoWrong the city would be on the hook for monetary damages. If the sergeant wanted to actually serve society he would have had Mr Eager Beaver bBadgemonkey sent home. He didn't. So said sergeant is NOT a "good guy". Just a dollar minded administrator.
ReplyDeletethey only have as much authority as you give them. always remember that.
ReplyDeleteI think that it used to be that you were considered under arrest when the cop fired a warning shot... into the back of your head. Now it seems like only civilians can shoot that accurately, as shown by the recent hero that took out the food court shooter from some 40 yards away, hitting 8 out of 10 shots. I pray for him, that he is able to deal with the aftermath of the event plus the publicity that has come his way.
ReplyDeleteThe gun community should be cognizant of his need for time to get over the terrible emotional toll that any shooting puts on a person, good shoot or not.
Still, a brave and well practiced man, in the right place at the right time.
Too many of the first, not nearly enough of the second. Mostly as a result of city governments.
ReplyDeleteMaybe sometimes act like decent human beings, if for no other reason than good "community relations", huh?
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