FORT STEWART, Ga. — A pair of YouTubers known for their incredible magnet fishing catches found a bag full of military equipment and active rockets in a Georgia river but are also facing fines.
According to WSB-TV, Matt Jackson and Bryce Nachtwey travel around the country, throwing magnets into bodies of water and seeing what sticks.
It was on a military post which is a restricted area. It was in a training area that has even more restrictions because of the danger of unexploded ordinance.
“”The other reason is culture resources protection.” Kevin Marc Larson, chief of public communications for Fort Stewart, told Savannah Morning News.“ What the fuck is “culture resource protection”? Sounds like someone is going to start a lecture on preferred pronouns or some other detritus. Buddha
Ft Stewart is the largest Army installation east of the Mississippi River. It is also an open fort as it has a couple of state highways running through it. Because it is an open base the military police are very active and do not put up with any violations of the law. Stopping on one of those state highways is not permitted. Taking pictures is not permitted. Being in a restricted area is not permitted. Hunting or fishing not sponsored by military MWR is not permitted. In short, don't screw around on a military base especially if you are a civilian.
These motherfuckers are both stupid and dangerous. I wouldn’t throw a magnet in a pond or stream on a military installation under any circumstances, and I spent my entire adult cleaning that shit up. I hope they get a little jail time. I’ve had to pick up the pieces, literally, too many times after some asshole brought home an unexploded souvenir and some kid decided to take it apart or just mishandle it. Eod1sg Ret
They're still finding live ordnance in Europe from both World Wars including gas from the first one and farmers get blown up regularly. Somebody found an explosive cannon ball from our Civil War recently that was still capable of exploding. So yeah, "go boom" is a distinct probability.
When I was stationed at Fort Devens, MA back in the early 90’s a local high school kid thought it was a good idea to collect unexplored ordinance from the M203 range. He was riding his back back home on a rural stretch of Highway with some friends when one of the rounds detonated as well as the other rounds. The teen was obviously dead and a couple of friends were severely wounded. Yeah stay off of the ranges and anywhere else that may have live ordinance.
Okay, apparently you all missed what makes this story interesting: The munitions and hum-vee tech gear were all in a duffle bag! And the base saying it happens all the time?! Even the MP on scene said he'd never seen anything like this. You're all pointing out little details: is it legal, is it safe, is it restricted...like the six blind men and the elephant. It's a big base (280k acres) with plenty of firing ranges. Granted, maybe a few rounds go astray, but 86 of them? Plus a tank round? And they all magically land in the exact same delta airlines duffle bag with a piece of hum-vee communication equipment? It don't take a genius to figure someone's smuggling stuff off base...in a duffle bag! -LG
I was stationed just outside in Hunter Army Airfield. The Maps don't play there. I was going through the gates early om one morning and got pulled over and ticketed because it "sounded" like I was speeding. Busted muffler was main culprit.
its what we call in the navy "float test it" - bring it back & be responsible for it & explain why you didn't use it all up in your training exercise & get back again to the exercise til you get it right maggot - or get rid of the "evidence" & go on liberty for a job well done. "I'm with the govt & I'm here to help"!!! (FLAwtha)
You bust open a crate of ammunition, shoot it all up, because ammunition point will not take back an opened crate. At Fort Hood, throwing stuff into way-out ditches was (is) common. 5.56 all the way to .50 cal. I heard of several hundred gallons of MOGAS emptied from a fuel truck because POL point would not take it back, and the NG company could not keep that much fuel at home station. Anyway, those dudes were stupid for not knowing the rules, No. 1 being, "Civilian rules don't apply here."
Back in the 60's when I was stationed in Germany, the army base near Frankfurt found that they had an extra tank, but couldn't find the paperwork, so they did the only thing they could do. They BURIED it. The Stars and Stripes got wind of it and exposed the story. I thought it was hilarious and started thinking up ways that we could make a couple of our problematic planes disappear.
Facts. Military gears goes missing every day. 86 fucking rounds isn’t even a drop in the bucket. Joes fire hundreds of thousands of rounds every day, if you look at it globally. Spend 45 days “camping” and training. Get back to garrison and before you go home, everything has to be cleaned , accounted for and turned in. Ammo is easy, just say you fired it. Dump left-overs in a creek or pond. Bury it, to get rid of it or hide it to retrieve later. Shit with serial numbers is much more difficult, but not in a combat zone. About ten percent of ammo doesn’t function as designed due to safety features built in so it can take a bit of abuse in training and combat. That shit goes down range and lays there for decades, until someone like me locates and disposes of it or some clown finds it and hauls it off. Not all Joes are heroes, some are zeros. You have to live it to understand. Not uncommon at all. Kept me in paychecks for 43 years. Eod1sg Ret
I lived on post Ft Bragg in the 70’s (Army brat). Dad was S-something in the 1BCT (or whatever they called it back then). At any rate my friends and I could easily find empties on the way to school. I even found a blue training AT mine out there.
Then I joined the Navy. Should have seen dad’s face.
Navy ports are nasty too. Pump and dump. That CHT has to go somewhere.
IIRC back then it was just called a brigade. Through my time in the early '80s it was called the same. I think it was in the '90s that BCT became the de rigueur term.
A friend was in the Army stationed at Fort Hood. It was inventory and budget time and they needed to write off some parts to get a bump in next years budget. He was ordered to bury brand new tank tracks so they could be written off. A duffel bag of expensive gear at the bottom of the lake makes perfect sense.
what y'all didn't take away from this? The only reason they got ticketS, (3 each), was "l don't care if its the President of the United States, l got called out here, l'm writing tickets" from the fat prick LEO
the clowns in charge don't like it when you "find" things they wanted to hide.
ReplyDeletefunny how that works ?
It was on a military post which is a restricted area. It was in a training area that has even more restrictions because of the danger of unexploded ordinance.
DeleteUh huh... So explain the duffle bag, smarty pants.
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“”The other reason is culture resources protection.” Kevin Marc Larson, chief of public communications for Fort Stewart, told Savannah Morning News.“
DeleteWhat the fuck is “culture resource protection”? Sounds like someone is going to start a lecture on preferred pronouns or some other detritus.
Buddha
LG - who the fuck knows? The fact remains they were in a restricted area.
DeleteSo they called the police on themselves?
ReplyDeleteFt Stewart is the largest Army installation east of the Mississippi River. It is also an open fort as it has a couple of state highways running through it. Because it is an open base the military police are very active and do not put up with any violations of the law. Stopping on one of those state highways is not permitted. Taking pictures is not permitted. Being in a restricted area is not permitted. Hunting or fishing not sponsored by military MWR is not permitted. In short, don't screw around on a military base especially if you are a civilian.
ReplyDeleteThese motherfuckers are both stupid and dangerous. I wouldn’t throw a magnet in a pond or stream on a military installation under any circumstances, and I spent my entire adult cleaning that shit up. I hope they get a little jail time. I’ve had to pick up the pieces, literally, too many times after some asshole brought home an unexploded souvenir and some kid decided to take it apart or just mishandle it. Eod1sg Ret
ReplyDeleteThey're still finding live ordnance in Europe from both World Wars including gas from the first one and farmers get blown up regularly. Somebody found an explosive cannon ball from our Civil War recently that was still capable of exploding. So yeah, "go boom" is a distinct probability.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was stationed at Fort Devens, MA back in the early 90’s a local high school kid thought it was a good idea to collect unexplored ordinance from the M203 range. He was riding his back back home on a rural stretch of Highway with some friends when one of the rounds detonated as well as the other rounds. The teen was obviously dead and a couple of friends were severely wounded. Yeah stay off of the ranges and anywhere else that may have live ordinance.
ReplyDeleteOkay, apparently you all missed what makes this story interesting: The munitions and hum-vee tech gear were all in a duffle bag!
ReplyDeleteAnd the base saying it happens all the time?!
Even the MP on scene said he'd never seen anything like this.
You're all pointing out little details: is it legal, is it safe, is it restricted...like the six blind men and the elephant.
It's a big base (280k acres) with plenty of firing ranges. Granted, maybe a few rounds go astray, but 86 of them? Plus a tank round? And they all magically land in the exact same delta airlines duffle bag with a piece of hum-vee communication equipment?
It don't take a genius to figure someone's smuggling stuff off base...in a duffle bag!
-LG
LG - and that might've happened 20, 30, 40 or even 50 years ago. That shit looked pretty corroded to me.
DeleteI was stationed just outside in Hunter Army Airfield. The Maps don't play there. I was going through the gates early om one morning and got pulled over and ticketed because it "sounded" like I was speeding. Busted muffler was main culprit.
ReplyDeleteits what we call in the navy "float test it" - bring it back & be responsible for it & explain why you didn't use it all up in your training exercise & get back again to the exercise til you get it right maggot - or get rid of the "evidence" & go on liberty for a job well done. "I'm with the govt & I'm here to help"!!! (FLAwtha)
ReplyDeleteNo good deed will go unpunished!
ReplyDeleteYou bust open a crate of ammunition, shoot it all up, because ammunition point will not take back an opened crate. At Fort Hood, throwing stuff into way-out ditches was (is) common. 5.56 all the way to .50 cal. I heard of several hundred gallons of MOGAS emptied from a fuel truck because POL point would not take it back, and the NG company could not keep that much fuel at home station. Anyway, those dudes were stupid for not knowing the rules, No. 1 being, "Civilian rules don't apply here."
ReplyDeleteBack in the 60's when I was stationed in Germany, the army base near Frankfurt found that they had an extra tank, but couldn't find the paperwork, so they did the only thing they could do. They BURIED it. The Stars and Stripes got wind of it and exposed the story. I thought it was hilarious and started thinking up ways that we could make a couple of our problematic planes disappear.
ReplyDeleteFacts. Military gears goes missing every day. 86 fucking rounds isn’t even a drop in the bucket. Joes fire hundreds of thousands of rounds every day, if you look at it globally. Spend 45 days “camping” and training. Get back to garrison and before you go home, everything has to be cleaned , accounted for and turned in. Ammo is easy, just say you fired it. Dump left-overs in a creek or pond. Bury it, to get rid of it or hide it to retrieve later. Shit with serial numbers is much more difficult, but not in a combat zone. About ten percent of ammo doesn’t function as designed due to safety features built in so it can take a bit of abuse in training and combat. That shit goes down range and lays there for decades, until someone like me locates and disposes of it or some clown finds it and hauls it off. Not all Joes are heroes, some are zeros. You have to live it to understand. Not uncommon at all. Kept me in paychecks for 43 years. Eod1sg Ret
ReplyDeleteI lived on post Ft Bragg in the 70’s (Army brat). Dad was S-something in the 1BCT (or whatever they called it back then). At any rate my friends and I could easily find empties on the way to school. I even found a blue training AT mine out there.
ReplyDeleteThen I joined the Navy. Should have seen dad’s face.
Navy ports are nasty too. Pump and dump. That CHT has to go somewhere.
Ragnar
IIRC back then it was just called a brigade. Through my time in the early '80s it was called the same. I think it was in the '90s that BCT became the de rigueur term.
DeleteA friend was in the Army stationed at Fort Hood. It was inventory and budget time and they needed to write off some parts to get a bump in next years budget. He was ordered to bury brand new tank tracks so they could be written off. A duffel bag of expensive gear at the bottom of the lake makes perfect sense.
ReplyDeletewhat y'all didn't take away from this?
ReplyDeleteThe only reason they got ticketS, (3 each), was "l don't care if its the President of the United States, l got called out here, l'm writing tickets" from the fat prick LEO
The only reason they got tickets is THEY BROKE THE LAW.
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