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Friday, September 23, 2022

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COLUMBUS, Ohio (WCMH) — A company employing thousands of people in central Ohio is asking its workers to pay the company. Honda sent a memo to employees at its Marysville factory, saying it overpaid bonuses and needs that extra money back.
-johnqpublic

14 comments:

  1. Honda should have quietly fired the asshat who screwed up the bonuses and deducted the 8% overpayment from future bonuses by just giving a lesser amount and not publicizing their screw-up. An overpayment of only 8% is not an obvious mistake where the law would see it as a mutual mistake and require the money to be paid back. If someone added another zero to the bonus, then it would be a mutual mistake because no one would believe that they got a $30K bonus instead of a $3K one.

    A unilateral mistake cannot be undone. Here, there is evidence that this bonus was not the highest ever, so the recipients reasonably believed that the bonus amount was correct.

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  2. No they don’t have to The employees did not know the amount that they were supposed to receive FaceTime company formulas so they are not legally responsible to pay it back. If it had been a regular paycheck and over paid yes, this is not that so therefore they’re not obligated. And when they get fired lawyers will have a field day

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    1. Did ya miss the part that the company is asking? Asking.

      Consider why a company would ask and not demand or simply deduct from future earnings.

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  3. Honda pays very well and treats employees very well so if I were them I would write a check back to them and say no problem but then again I don't blow my check the first day like most folks that have never been hungry . They even rent a huge yard near Marion to store new unsold cars at when sales fall so they don't have to lay anyone off . The trouble is most folks live above their means with no common sense or frugality and they blew that big check the first weekend and are flat broke again . You can't fix stupid .

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    1. Robehr, that is one of the most insightful, honest and true comment on human behavior I've ever read.

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  4. Now that made me laugh! What a bunch of fools.

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  5. I’ve had something similar happen to me and you could either pay back lump sum or have a small amount deducted from your paycheck which was a reasonable alternative.

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  6. Honda f'd up.
    Legally, yes they can demand money back. Were it me though, I'd find the lawyer, HR rep or payroll accountant along with the management person who approved the payback and kick them in the taint.
    Public perception now of Honda is that they're overbearing corporate pricks who don't care about the workers and will screw them over for any amount of money. Overall the bonus $$ are not that great in the big picture.
    Should not have even made this public in the first place, find the problem, fixed it, whack up side of head someone in the IS/IT department (I'm guessing it was software error) and move on.
    If they wanted to make it public, send a hold-harmless letter to the folks involved saying, 'yeah, we screwed up this time, we're good for now.'
    Then they would have had the positive publicity and good worker relations.

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  7. I worked for a trucking company whose "mistakes" were always in their favor. Union job, so I would climb their ass & get my money I had coming. Bunch of pricks.

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  8. After having worked for a Japanese company before, I'd say this is perfectly normal.
    Don't work for Asians.
    Anonymous 8:41 nailed it.

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  9. This is a tax nightmare for the employee. Taxes have already been taken out. Writing a check to the company means the company has to deduct that from your salary to the IRS. Otherwise you are paying taxes on money you gave back.

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  10. indian giver? INDIAN GIVER? Dat be raysis!

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  11. Situational ethics gut check for you all - you inadvertently over pay your electric bill. Do you want the electric company to pay back for your mistake?

    DG in StAug

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