Abraham Lincoln and other future-minded Whigs recognized this in 1854 when they created the Republican Party. The Whig Party, a contributor of good ideas and good leaders during its heyday, had been on a losing streak and was divided between incompatible factions, one opposing slavery and the other supporting it. Six years later, Lincoln won the presidency on the Republican ticket, and the Whig Party disbanded.
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ReplyDeleteHemp and Pole Party.
DeleteWhen America was first being settled by the English, the two political parties were the Tories and the Whigs. Nowadays, when someone argues that there can only be two parties and that there is no possibility of a new party I wonder which party they support - Tory or Whig?
ReplyDeleteHell yes. Pull MAGA out of the Republican party and the leftover GOPe will collapse.
ReplyDeleteAfter its first loss, what is the life expectancy of a new political party?
ReplyDeleteUnknown. The Libertarian Party hasn't won a national election so far, after having been founded in the 1970s.
DeleteThere are a few issues.
ReplyDeleteThe elections being rigged means that any party that isn't the Democrats is doomed to lose.
Even assuming that the elections AREN'T rigged, a conservative party would split the voters of the current Republicans and ensure that the Democrats win anyhow. If you doubt this, see Ross Perot's 1992 campaign that put Clinton in the White House, and his Reform party that fell apart less than 4 years after he formed it.
T. Roosevelt and his Bull Moose Party split the Republicans and put Woodrow Wilson in office in 1912.
Delete-ahem- Sorry Wirecutter, this is going to be long.
ReplyDeleteThere are already more than 2 parties. Including the Libertarian Party, which does capture senate and representative seats from time to time. The American Constitution Party, the Constitution Party, the "american" communist party, and the Green Party, are a few others that can be easily named. The problem, as I see it, is not that we need a "new" party. We need a new federal government. The one we currently have is, I submit, irredeemably corrupt. Only a act of God Himself could save the cesspool of "d.c." from itself. My limited knowledge of history suggests that He usually allows foreign forces to obliterate satanic, corrupted regimes as we currently have seated in "d.c."
To try to save "d.c." for itself is a fool's errand, and forming another new (national) party is a waste of resources. Focus on your state. If you want a "Conservative" party, great, but keep it local, local, local. You see, when someone pushes this at the national level they are immediately suspect:
They are either still stuck in a 20th century mindset that the federal government is "ok, just needs to get the right guy in"
or
They are looking to turn a quick profit through some God-damned PAC thing that greases dozens of palms between your donation and the slimy candidate that is running for "office."
Be assured, the second is FAR more likely.
The federal government is a failure. Has been since about 1988, and that is generous. I strongly suspect the federal fixture failed (at the latest) in about 1913, but one could make a very strong argument it failed when Mr. Lincoln was installed in the white house. Your State *might* be salvaged from the wreckage that is now tumbling down around us. Focus the resources and effort on something can *can* be saved and maybe *should* be saved. Even then, I suspect many states cannot survive withdrawal from the heroin-laced milk that flows in a trickle for the whore teat of washington dc that places like nashville (to pick a random examaple) suckle so lovingly.
Any state that survives that separation will need to be very careful of the--to keep the heroin analogy going--methadone maintenance program offered by China CCP... and the likely invasion that with be attempted after that.
DJTrump is not that man that will be able to lead us. He was paralyzed but the Jan 6 non-event. Do you really think he can do want really needs to be done? We are going to need a man that believes in and understands liberty like Jefferson, leads an army like Patton, can run a government like George Washington and inspires men like Stonewall Jackson.
-Just A Chemist.
I'm registered to vote with the Constitution Party and have been for years and years.
DeleteFrankly I think it's going to come to war, call it Civil or Revolutionary doesn't matter.
ReplyDeleteTo attempt to slow the break down a few things that could be done.
First, eliminate open primaries. That's where the Dems select the candidate THEY wish to run against.
Second, if possible and it probably isn't, a new amendment that cancels the 17th and the direct election of US Senators. Name me one US Senator whose first loyalty is to his 'Home' state, not his party.
Third, and be ready to fight tooth and nail to get this one, abolish all absentee and mail-in voting. Forget about military votes, they have crashed aircraft to get rid of soldiers absentee votes.
Fourth. Be ready to defend the Second Amendment. It's our only real strength.
You forgot term limits.
DeleteIn the absence of accountability you will automatically have criminality. Further, you cannot build anything lasting and worthwhile based on the failed assumption that taxation is not theft, and therefore criminal.
ReplyDeleteI advocate for a Constitution 2.0. Besides a lack of organization, the conservative elements need something defined to fight for, for "after". Constitution 2.0 could address those elements (such as term limits, the 2nd, taxation, insider trading, etc)
ReplyDeleteWords on paper are meaningless if they can be ignored. We dont need a new constitution, we need to enforce the one we have. At least 70% of the current fed dot gov is unconstitutional.
DeleteRepeal the 17th Amendment (direct election of senators), a Balanced Budget Amendment, and elect comitted Federalists and we.might have a chance...
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