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Friday, January 06, 2023

California planning gun microstamp database

Anew era of gun sales is taking effect in California. 

On July 1, 2022, California Penal Code section 31910 was revised. The change required semiautomatic pistols sold in California to have microstamping technology. 

A microstamp acts like a fingerprint in identifying ammunition cartridges and the gun from which it was fired. The firing pin imposes an identifying stamp on the round's primer as it’s discharged.

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And that'll be the end of new semi-auto gun sales in California seeing as the technology doesn't exist yet, as evidenced by the next paragraph which includes 'Supporters hoped that this change in the penal code would encourage manufacturers to employ the technology in their firearm products.'

23 comments:

  1. "The department will accept comments from interested parties until 5:00 p.m. on Feb. 1, 2023."

    Which they will then proceed to completely ignore and do what they set out to do in the first place.

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  2. If they can mandate the use of non-existent technology on the sale of firearms, theoretically what prevents them from mandating that all new firearms must be made with 10% metallic hydrogen composition?

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  3. Yea, like the criminals really care.

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  4. I believe that all major gun companies should boycott the state of California. Including not just guns but also parts and upgrades for guns. Until the assholes there get slammed with something will some actual teeth, they are going to keep on walking around like the same old big cheese. But a hard kick to their balls will certainly get their attention. And it will of course wake up those who thought that they were already woke.
    Plus, it would no doubt speed things up so that we all knew where they stand. You can't really hide from something like that.

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    1. Just like Ronnie Barrett.
      Told CA agencies to fuck off in 2002, told NY to fuck off in 2013.
      The rest of the gun community? Zilch! Very happy to sell guns to agencies that they will use to kill citizens.
      Some of the worst enemies we have are our “friends”.

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  5. "A microstamp acts like a fingerprint in identifying ammunition cartridges and the gun from which it was fired. The firing pin imposes an identifying stamp on the round's primer as it’s discharged."

    That's about as effective as tracking auto sales with a post-it note on the window as anyone wanting to get rid of such a thing will need about 2 minutes and a dremel, if not just a nail file.

    But of course the point is never to actually do anything about crime rather make up some unattainable rule to try to point the finger at the manufacturers for not following their arbitrary rule. If manufacturers DO bother to implement something, something new will be added as the next hurdle.

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  6. I guess the California lawmakers don't realize that firing pins can be replaced.

    Al_in_Ottawa

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    1. Just a touch with a grinder...

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    2. They will just make that a felonious feloneeee!

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  7. Perhaps California could discuss this proposal with Maryland. The Old Line State spent 15 years and and an estimated $5 million to create a "ballistic fingerprint" database by collecting fired cases from every new handgun sold in the state. They expected to match cases found at crime scenes with cases in their database. Wham, bam, thank you ma'am - case solved. Ultimately they collected over 300,000 cases, each of which was stamped with a barcode, sealed in its own envelope and filed in a box. Care to guess how many crimes were solved by this ingenious system? If you guess zero, you are correct. None. Zero. Zilch. Squat. But micro-stamping will be substantially better, right? ... Right?

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    1. yeah but they enjoyed spending the money appropriated for that.

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  8. All the State, County and City Police forces should be mandated to give up their existing weapons and wait for new replacements that have the new technology…

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  9. Firing pins already produce a microscopic “fingerprint” impression on expended shells that can be matched upon recovery of the weapon.

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    1. Which changes ever-so-slightly each time the gun is fired. Which happens to microstamping, which has already been tried.

      This is not about microstamping, it's about denying people access to new guns because no-one can do microstamping.

      State: "See, we're not denying you your 2A rights because you can still buy a new gun with microstamping.
      Gun Buyer: "But nobody makes a new gun with microstamping capability."

      State: "So?"

      Ninth Circuit Court: "Because the possibility exists to buy a gun with microstamping, the law isn't in violation of the 2A, therefore you legal gun buyers are screwed."

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  10. Kevin Baker nailed this a while ago - a long read but this blows the concept right out of the water:

    https://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2005/01/why-ballistic-fingerprinting-doesnt.html

    Phil B

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  11. Pretty sure microstamping wasn't required in 1791.

    It's like NYSRPA v. Bruen never happened.

    But yeah, gun manufacturers go ahead and boycott California gun buyers, both civilian and government.

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  12. Dang. That firing pin had a burr on the end, so I replaced it with a new one

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  13. Some one is missing a golden opportunity, a little cottage business of making micro stamped firing pins.

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    1. Pins that leave an imprint that says "F U !"

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  14. This isn't new. It's bullshit but it's not new. The only change is the registry thing (sort of) and the allowing one microstamp thing. And it only applies to new *models* of guns. Existing models aren't affected. Which is why they can still sell semiautomatic pistols in CA.
    Took some googling but I found the actual text of the "invitation for comments". The writers on those sites are just clickbaiting. And if they've actually read the document, they know it, too. It's especially retarded because the real law is bad enough. No exaggeration required. But they've gotta add their bullshit to make it seem even worse than it is for clicks. Idjits. Lying, shortsighted idjits.
    Related old (2018) article:
    https://www.govtech.com/public-safety/california-supreme-court-upholds-bullet-micro-stamping-law.html

    Link to the PDF:
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/media/invitation-for-comments-ab-2847.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwi9-cb8zLn8AhVGpYQIHZXuAjcQFnoECBcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0IF6JNzQc-3bmwOggvNhso

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    1. You do realize that California's pulling handguns off their 'approved for sale in California' list on a regular basis, right? That's not bad enough for you?

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    2. My bad for failing to communicate my thoughts clearly, but, I actually said "the real law is bad enough" sir. My point was, there are *real things* that people should be pissed about, and justthenews is screwing around with falsehoods and half-truths. (Actually not just pissed but much worse than that...but that's the word I'm using.)

      And that's why it pisses me off when people (like the guys running "justthenews") deliberately distort facts for clicks. Because that then leads people who trust the original source of those distorted facts, and talk about them, to subsequently get "disqualified" or "discredited" when someone corrects the bullshit those clickbaiting jerks were using to get ad revenue.

      California is bad enough that I'd consider selling it to friggin Russia at this point. That truth doesn't change the fact that justthenews is spreading false and inaccurate info about a serious issue. Which is what ticked me off.

      I don't know if I did better clarifying here, but I tried, heh God bless, man.
      Molon Labe!

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    3. Oh, just realized. When I said "it's bullshit" I meant "it's rage inducing and disgusting". Is that what I screwed up? I didn't mean it was all false. Just not new. Horrible but sadly not new. (Although it was new to me because I'm not from CA lol)
      And justthenews was being dishonorable by distorting the facts.

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