When they ban gas stoves there'll be 2 benefits. 1-Your gas bills will go down. 2-It'll remove another way to commit suicide. Ever try to kill yourself by sticking your head in an electric oven?
@bunny I just bought a new gas stove today. My 40+ year old one gave up the ghost Sunday night. Broiled a piece of meat and the oven wouldn't turn off. I kept trying it until I finally got the oven to shut off. Five minutes later, I went back into the kitchen and smelled gas. I walked over to the stove and got a blast of gas in the face (not an explosion, just very strong gas smell). Took the oven control knob off and used a propane match to find the leak. There was a 2.5" high flame coming right out of the oven control valve. after several more tries, I got that to shut off too.
I haven't had a good run the last couple weeks. First my garbage disposal wouldn't drain or work, it's 8-10 years old.. It's rusted enough to be inop.
A week or so later my 30 year old washing machine's timer shit itself in the middle of a cycle while full of water and clothes. Took an hour to bail it and get the clothes wrung out enough to take to the laundromat to finish off. I did try to put the timer on spin to get it to empty first before bailing by hand.
You never know how convenient modern appliances are until they break.
I checked my history with Nicor Gas (Northern Illinois) to see the natural gas prices. Dec 2022: $0.85 per therm (current bill) Nov 2022: $1.14 per therm Oct 2022: $1.14 per therm ... Jan 2022: $0.61 per therm (year ago)
Highest price found in my history Jan 2006: $1.24 per therm
That's the highest price I could easily find, based on the bill. It's possible there were higher prices, but not in the coldest months, so it did not generate the highest bill. So, if you've lived in your house a long time, expect the gas bill will be about as high as winter 2005/2006.
I'm sure the traders have explanations - but this sounds so strange after natural gas funds have taken a beating recently. Click on the 1Y to get the one-year chart, for instance. Today was another big down day. https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/NG%3DF?p=NG%3DF
I got one of those whiney-ass letters too. You might think the "gas company" would be smart enough to use the futures market to hedge their nat gas prices. I know the "electric company" also negotiates their delivery contracts for nat gas sometimes years in advance. The goal is to avoid this kinda shit that sticker shocks the customers. My guess is they weren't paying attention.
Shocking high Nat. Gas prices to go along with shockingly high electricity prices due solely and exclusively to Bribem's energy policy.
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When they ban gas stoves there'll be 2 benefits. 1-Your gas bills will go down. 2-It'll remove another way to commit suicide. Ever try to kill yourself by sticking your head in an electric oven?
Delete@bunny I just bought a new gas stove today. My 40+ year old one gave up the ghost Sunday night. Broiled a piece of meat and the oven wouldn't turn off. I kept trying it until I finally got the oven to shut off. Five minutes later, I went back into the kitchen and smelled gas. I walked over to the stove and got a blast of gas in the face (not an explosion, just very strong gas smell). Took the oven control knob off and used a propane match to find the leak. There was a 2.5" high flame coming right out of the oven control valve. after several more tries, I got that to shut off too.
DeleteI haven't had a good run the last couple weeks. First my garbage disposal wouldn't drain or work, it's 8-10 years old.. It's rusted enough to be inop.
A week or so later my 30 year old washing machine's timer shit itself in the middle of a cycle while full of water and clothes. Took an hour to bail it and get the clothes wrung out enough to take to the laundromat to finish off. I did try to put the timer on spin to get it to empty first before bailing by hand.
You never know how convenient modern appliances are until they break.
Nemo
I checked my history with Nicor Gas (Northern Illinois) to see the natural gas prices.
ReplyDeleteDec 2022: $0.85 per therm (current bill)
Nov 2022: $1.14 per therm
Oct 2022: $1.14 per therm
...
Jan 2022: $0.61 per therm (year ago)
Highest price found in my history
Jan 2006: $1.24 per therm
That's the highest price I could easily find, based on the bill. It's possible there were higher prices, but not in the coldest months, so it did not generate the highest bill.
So, if you've lived in your house a long time, expect the gas bill will be about as high as winter 2005/2006.
Geek
Geek, so sad your are ruining fear mongering with facts.
DeleteSteve the Engineer
Northern Illinois ain't Southern California.
DeleteI'm sure the traders have explanations - but this sounds so strange after natural gas funds have taken a beating recently. Click on the 1Y to get the one-year chart, for instance. Today was another big down day.
ReplyDeletehttps://finance.yahoo.com/quote/NG%3DF?p=NG%3DF
The futures charts do not fully include tampering with free markets because the effect cannot be determined, only estimated.
DeleteI got one of those whiney-ass letters too. You might think the "gas company" would be smart enough to use the futures market to hedge their nat gas prices. I know the "electric company" also negotiates their delivery contracts for nat gas sometimes years in advance. The goal is to avoid this kinda shit that sticker shocks the customers. My guess is they weren't paying attention.
ReplyDeleteOR, it's deliberate.
DeleteCC
New England (not as temperate as sunny Cali)
ReplyDeleteNatural Gas was $2.49 per CCF
December bill was +8.26% over November.
I've got a bottle of good scotch on hand for opening the January bill.
I paid about $135 to top off my propane tank before winter.
ReplyDeleteEven in a n 80 year old farmhouse that has no insulation, it'll last till summer.
Californian's getting fucked , the way they should, for putting up with their leftist gov.
ReplyDeleteJust another reason for those roaches to move to other states dragging their political diseases with them.
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