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Friday, March 10, 2023

Commentary: ‘Geofence Warrants’ Threaten Every Phone User’s Privacy

The last time your phone asked you to allow this or that app access to your location data, you may have had some trepidation about how much Apple or Google know about you. You may have worried about what might come of that, or read about China’s use of the data to track anti-lockdown protesters. What you probably didn’t realize is Google has already searched your data on behalf of the federal government to see if you were involved with January 6th.

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Maybe your phone, but not mine. I never got into the phone habit.

My old flip phone gave up the ghost a couple months ago, so I went down and got a new truck phone through T-Mobile.
In two months, I've made only one call and that was to my house when I forgot what I was supposed to get from the Piggly Wiggly, and I've yet to receive a call on it. I don't even know what my ringtone sounds like.

21 comments:

  1. It does not matter if you made a call or received a call. Every time your cell phone pings a cell tower or is handed off from one tower to another, the geolocation-time stamp of that phone is recorded forever. The only way around this is to put your phone in a faraday bag, so that it cannot communicate with the towers. That will make you immune to geotracking until You take your phone out of the faraday bag.

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  2. yup. needed a cell phone for work back in the day. after I retired. I tossed it.
    I know too much about them to own one today. anymore or for the last 10 or more years.
    "they" can turn it on anytime they want to. to track you. or listen to what is happening
    or whatever else now a days. I knew a guy who was going to the J6 bullshit
    thing. I told them to leave his cell phone at home and use only pay phones if he had to make a call. and pay for everything with CASH too. he just looked at me funny after I told him that. I told him I stop trusting anyone in gov't back in the 1970's

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    1. The only reason I ever got one was because of my commute back and forth to work and I didn't even buy that one - my mother bought it for me because she was worried I'd break down on some country road.
      The one I have now, I couldn't even tell you where it is at the moment. It's been several days since I've seen it. It may be in the truck, it may be in a jacket pocket, it may be in that asshole dog Jack's stash of half chewed rawhide bones.

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  3. For safety, leave home without it.

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    1. That is what I do. I have a newer style flip phone and I don't trust that either. "they" must think I am a solitary stinky hermit as my phone stays in one place.

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    2. Yep, I leave mine on a radiator with 4X120MM fans blasting into it. College might require one but I'll hopefully have a faraday bag for it by then.

      - Arc

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  4. My 1963 AT&T rotary dial wall phone ain't been nowhere since I got it except attached to my kitchen wall. I tell the nitwits who say I need one to stay in touch I have 3 ways to stay in touch with people #1: face to face so I can say fuck you as I punch the asshole in the snot locker, #2: On my wall phone so I can tell the asshole fuck you and if you don't like it you know where I live. #3: I write the message fuck you in longhand on lined paper put it into a stamped envelope and drop it in the Post Office.

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  5. People are worried about being tracked by their phones, and rightfully so, but most don't realize that their vehicle is tracking them as well.
    All vehicles in America made from the 2005 model year and after have GPS. It can't be turned off or disabled and there's no way to put it in a faraday cage. It can be pinged at any time and location history is recorded. I don't know how far back in time it goes. It can also be continuously monitored in real time.

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    1. Note to self: Don't ever sell my 2001 F-150.

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    2. why else do you think I am spending money to get my old 1994 4runner back on the road. I do have a 2016 4runner and it is okay for a mall wagon as I call them.
      the 4 wheel drive works okay, but not like my older 4 runner did.
      and the damn GPS is too handy for getting to places we never went to before.
      getting lazy is what it is. I do know how to use maps and I do own more than one compass as well.

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    3. it is simple for the feds or cops to use too. they get your plate number. then they get the car/truck number. and then they can get the truck/car's GPS number to track you in real time. and know this as well. most traffic cams are owned by the feds.
      they store ALL of that data too. remember all of those new fusion centers they built ?
      all of this was brought and paid for by you. that is why the pat act after 9/11 was a
      god send to the police state. 1984 is here and has been for a long time now.

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  6. I'm not too concerned with them knowing my travel history. What concerns me is can they make it appear I was somewhere I wasn't?

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    1. Yes they can. The technology is known by several names. Falsifying records and lying are two of the most common.

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  7. If your cell phone is on, it can be tracked. The EMS/911 service can not be turned off by law, so you can always be located (in an emergency, or so they say).
    The Faraday Bag is comment is 100% correct, but every time you take it out...there you are.

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  8. My GF called me back on J6 to ask if I had been there at the Capitol. I told her no, but that I sympathized with the protesters, but thought their efforts were a waste. She was appalled. If I had been there, I'm sure she would have turned me in. Fortunately, I had been 200 miles away.

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  9. The 1990s were the golden years for serial killers.
    - No GPS tracking on phones or vehicles.
    - No cameras on every street and in half the cars.
    - DNA technology was still in its infancy.
    There aren’t many serial killers anymore, if any. There’s no doubt Kohberger in Idaho wanted to be a serial killer but because of today’s technology they immediately captured him.

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    1. I read the other day that less than half of the murders nowadays are solved. How would they know there's no serial killers if they don't know who's killing people?
      They busted a guy in Stockton just a few months ago that racked up at least 7 people last I heard, and he'd been at it for about a year and a half.

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  10. If you have a cell phone you can be tracked. Doesn't even have to be a "smart phone". All phones have unique identifier numbers and that number is tracked by every tower that sees the phone. That data is all stored by the phone company. Don't want your phone tracked? Keep it turned off and inside a bag or container that blocks all RF signals. Oherwise the phone company knows where you go and when. That means the feds also know.

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    1. "off" isn't really off anymore, it just pings every 20 seconds rather than every three. Take the battery out if you want it off; even then, unless you examined the PCB for smaller batteries, it's probably still on.

      - Arc

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  11. I only carry my phone when I don't care if they know where I am or if I want them to know where I am.

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  12. I do it a little different. I flood the servers with data so that it's impossible to sift out signal from noise. Any given day I might appear to be in three different states at once, and probably somewhere overseas. Enough chaos and they just assume that their tools are broken.

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