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Wednesday, August 09, 2023

Philadelphia and Anti-Gun Group Sues Local Gun Shops

PHILADELPHIA, Penn — On the heels of suing JSD Supply and Polymer80, the city of Philadelphia has teamed up with another anti-gun group to sue local gun stores.

Mayor Jim Kenney announced that the city is suing three local gun stores with the help of Everytown for Gun Safety. The named stores are Delia’s Gun Shop and Frank’s Gun Shop & Shooting Range in Northeast Philadelphia, and Tanner’s Sport Center in Jamison, Bucks County. Mayor Kenney claims that these gun stores knowingly supplied firearms to criminals and minors through straw purchases.

10 comments:

  1. do they have proof of the straw purchases?

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  2. Is it me, or does that seem a bit high risk, especially how they're doing it? If they can't prove what they claim, they seem wide open for a libel lawsuit...and considering one of the groups they're trying to sue is for action from a previous owner, they're digging themselves in deep.

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  3. They don't need proof, their goal isn't to win, but to punish. Lawsuits are expensive. Unless they get countersued for enough to cover legal expenses and to make up for lost time. If they were knowingly selling firearms to straw buyers, the ATF would be in on this, as you know, that's criminal.

    Then again, with a sympathetic (leftist) judge, and no need to hit the no reasonable doubt threshold... jeez, my country used to sell machine guns by mail...

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    1. yup. what they want is to run them out of the city . lawsuits are to make them go broke
      if you have the bucks, you can get a gun almost anywhere in philly. might be hotter than hell though. Delia's was a great old time gun shop until about 10 (?) years ago
      the brothers who owned it sold out and retired. shame really as the old guys had all sorts of weird old guns in there. I bought more than a few guns in that place before it changed hands. dave in pa.

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    2. You are absolutely correct, the point if the lawsuit isn't to win.

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  4. Seems like this would be a Federal matter, they produce the form, which is designed to catch "straw purchasers" or others, and punish the person that lied on the form, not the gun store.

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  5. The process is the punishment. Use public funds, in this case the city’s, to punish private actors they despise. Little different than what is going in on a national level.

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  6. Criminal charges require guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Civil suits only require preponderance of evidence. Case in point, OJ was found not guilty but still lost the civil suit brought against him. So there's that angle.

    Also, process is the punishment, as others have pointed out. I've been thru the process once, many years ago, and yeah, not guilty, all charges thrown out, but it cost me.

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  7. This is lawfare. The use of the legal system as a weapon. The suits cost the city nothing. The costs are paid by the taxpayers. Their victims however can be bankrupted by this. If the city wins they win. If they lose they still win. The process is the punishment.

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