Tuesday, September 05, 2023
Frequently Debunked Crackpots Claim the AR-15 is Worthless for Self-Defense
When the young paste-eaters at Michael Bloomberg’s anti-gun propaganda factory, known as the Trace, team up with the stodgy window-lickers at the Gun Violence Archive to produce a story about the utility of the AR-15 platform as a modern self-defense tool, it’s hard not to get too excited.
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So my AR is an assault weapon, but the Assault Weapons issued to my local PD are Personal Defense Rifles? If they're so useless, why is my local PD issuing them to the LEOs? Do they plan to use them in the Assault, or Defense mode?
ReplyDeleteCops don't carry ARs for defense. They use them to intimidate the peasants. If that doesn't work they use them to assault those who dare to stand up to them.
DeleteSutherland Springs Mass Murder of Church goers:
ReplyDeleteThe Sutherland Springs church shooting occurred on November 5, 2017, when 26-year-old Devin Patrick Kelley, of New Braunfels, Texas, perpetrated a mass shooting at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas killing 26 people, including an unborn child and wounded 22 others, before killing himself.
Stephen Willeford, former firearms instructor who fired upon and injured the shooter
Kelley was then confronted by and traded fire with Stephen Willeford, a local resident and former firearms instructor who was armed with an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle. Willeford had taken cover behind a truck across the street from the church and shot Kelley twice, once in the leg and once in the upper left torso under his tactical gear.
I like AR’s a lot. Carried one version or another for many years. They are not a perfect personal protection weapon, and the newest military version is damn sure not some magical killing machine. I as well as two of my sons would be happy to explain why to anyone who wants to know why based on personal experience. Loosing 500 feet per second in velocity in a .22 caliber weapon has a lot to do with it. I’d still carry one in an end of the world scenario, just because I know how to drive it. Just know that one shot stops are not common. Best thing about it is that the ammo is light and you can carry a lot of it.
ReplyDeleteI've always held the opinion that most of the problems associated with "knockdown power" and the AR15 was due to bullet type/choice. People go out and buy the cheap box which typically is FMJ or some non-expanding type of round and then are disappointed on the performance. It is similar to most military round (which I do not have any experience with beyond some minor research and interest so please correct me if I am wrong) which are designed to defeat body armor and just pokes holes in flesh. You wouldn't shoot a deer with a FMJ, which would do little to no damage, just as you wouldn't shoot one with a varmint round that would fragment to hell but would work well on a non alphabet home intruder. John Nosler wrote a book about his bullet design and purposely wanting a certain amount of fragmentation to facilitate bleed out (I think it was no more than 20%).
DeleteI recall watching a documentary quite a few years ago where they talked about the SF guys first issued them as test rifles loved them and the VC called them the black death (or something along those lines). These rifles were original Stoner spec and softer bullets which did a lot more damage and were more reliable than when big army "redesigned them".
Myself, a majority of my AR's are 6.8 SPCII's with different bullet designs for different tasks. I run a 110gr Accubond and 85gr E-Tip for deer (Accubond was amazing but have yet to shoot a deer with the E-Tip) and a 95gr Gold Dot for defense. The problem with the AR is there are so many options (tools for the toolbox).
Below is a link to one man's opinion concerning military research surrounding some of this topic. And if you are really interested in bullet selection and results there is a post in the reloading section (6.8 SPC bullet reviews) that goes into details concerning the different manufacturers at different speeds and distances. While this might not apply directly to the caliber anyone here has chosen it does show the results of these differences that can be very loosely correlated.
https://www.68forums.com/threads/understanding-missile-wounding-comprehensive-study.133249/?id=133249
Cool, thanks.
DeleteI have both an AR-15 and AR-10. I shoot both, though I tend to use the AR-15 far more often as the ammo is less expensive (.223/5.56 vs. .308Win)
Deletethere was a reason why a 8 inch mill file was carried by certain troops. story was if you filed the tip flat to expose the lead below the jacket, they tended to "work" much better than the ones you didn't do. dave in pa.
DeleteConsider the source, all useless dumbasses
ReplyDeleteJD
If the left ever had to stop using the word "racist" they could never form a sentence again, much less present an argument.
ReplyDeleteP.S. ...or the word "experts". If they couldn't use the word "experts" they couldn't form a sentence or make an argument.
DeleteProved to be a pretty good self defense platform for Kyle Rittenhouse.
ReplyDelete-lg
The drawback to the AR is that keeping it loaded for months on end will ruin the mag spring. Unless you rotate the magazines on a fixed schedule.
ReplyDeleteThe .357 magnum revolver is my choice.
That's a myth and has been debunked many times over. I've got 8 magazines that I kept loaded for several years and when I did shoot them, they worked fine. The constant reloading when you rotate them out causes more wear on the spring than letting them sit there loaded.
DeleteSprings wear out from compression and relaxation, not from being under constant tension. Leaving them loaded for decades is just fine.
DeleteHow does one deal with concern trolls? Feed them, and tell the rest of the world how smart you think they are.
ReplyDeletewell, I first picked one up back in the 1970's with Sam. didn't care much for it. but they have gotten better over the years. have a old bushmaster copy of the CAR-15 and it is handy to have and use in the house. loud though. and thanks to the carry laws in the state of PA. I used to carry a loaded AR pistol in the truck. nice 10.5 barrel, had to dump the "brace" though. but topped off with a Burris prism sight. it worked very well.
ReplyDeleteand like you I find the 20 round magazines to work better in that space.
and like racking the pump on a shotgun, the sound of the charging handle tells assholes
they picked the wrong guy. check out C-products magazines, the stainless steel ones..
I think they way better than the plastic magazines for daily use.
granted a flamethrower might work better in home defense, but then you have to put out the fire. this way, a little spackle and paint= you good to go ! dave in pa.