Some Californians who have landlines scream: "They can't do that. Without a land-line I may die". AT&T says: "Hold my beer"! When will people learn as long as the big companies own politicians they can do whatever they please.
When will people learn that phone service is not a human right? Moreover, when will they learn that they can't force AT&T to spend hundreds of millions (by adding fees to your cell phone service) to support an antiquated infrastructure that almost no one uses anymore just because a few morons don't want to upgrade and think phone service is their infallible savior from death?
Cry me a river. I don't get cell service where I live, but I don't demand that someone subsidize my phone service. I just make sure I have decent medical supplies, plenty of ammo, an internet connection so I can message people, and a radio so I can talk to the neighbors nearby.
We have AT&T what used to be Uverse. We have something we call a landline, but the service comes through the AT&T router just like TV & internet so When the internet goes out, so do the "landlines".
It's just another way to force people out of the countryside and into those 15 minute cities the Left has been pushing...or maybe not.
I can see there may be some trepidation for folks with POTS (Plain Old Telephone Service) since the copper wires may go away to be replaced with optical fiber. More telcos are doing that because copper is more expensive to maintain, requires more equipment in the field to support, and telcos are also required to share their copper networks with competitors if those competitors ask them to do so. Fiber optic networks are not required to be shared.
If fiber replaces copper, that doesn't mean landline telephone service will go away. It just means that the technology that connects their landline phone to the central office will use fiber optics rather than copper twisted pairs as has been used for over 120+ years.
Twice when I lived in the Copper Country a beaver chewed through the lone fiber cable. Internet, telephone and 911 service was out for about a day and a half each time.
Starker here, POTS uses pairs, not twisted pairs. That's part of the problem. The other is outdoor splices that are not completely sealed. The cables are usually 25, 50, 100 pairs. When everyone has Telco and a pair goes bad they try switching the bad pair around until it's with a customer that doesn't complain. Otherwise they have to run a new cable, that's expensive.
I think you are confusing a corded phone sitting on a desk as being connected to a landline. The vast majority of businesses use VOIP for their phones these days.
I was for keeping landlines because they were required to stay functional in a power outage much longer than cellular systems. My landline was unusable in wet weather because of hum, so probably wouldn't have worked anyway, even if the phone system was up. I switched to magicJack instead of paying my ISP for their phone service. The unwanted calls still come in just fine... Jim_R
I am in favor of keeping the old school landline, infact bring it back for the "free phone service" provided by government "Assistance", maybe that will reduce the graft involved in that program. My mother lives in a rural area, with no cell coverage, doesn't do internet, but is aware of what it is. If she had no landline that nice Indian chap wouldn't be able call and check on her extended car warranty, and she might not ever learn about her student loans program.
I am serious about it the program, which actually started under Reagan as an assistance, if you provide a phone service, why shouldn't be a land line?, I agree with the concept of making communication possible for those who need to access the job market,, but am opposed to making it too easy for them.
I'm not sure what Reagan has to do with it. This program is not "free", it's paid for by someone. What you mean to say is that you are OK with compelling someone else to pay for this thing, because you agree with it.
I understand that there is no such thing as a free lunch, but considering all the other items given as a "form of rights" I am less offended in providing a communication link intended to allow someone to try and get a job, the phone program started back in the 80's and only covered 911 and local service. Somehow it turned into free cell phones and then became free Internet smart phones. The landline wall phone is good enough, and fulfills the original intent of the program. Considering how much money's we don't have that is being sent to foreign countries the amount spent on this program is insignificant, and actually does get something done for the US people.
Ohh, you can still have a land line. See, we'll just bundle it in with your cable service for maximum savings! What's that you say? You don't need cable TV or internet? That's OK, you can still keep the phone line part of the package.........and it's only $275/month.
Some Californians who have landlines scream: "They can't do that. Without a land-line I may die". AT&T says: "Hold my beer"! When will people learn as long as the big companies own politicians they can do whatever they please.
ReplyDeleteWhen will people learn that politicians will do anything they want no matter how many people are screaming "NOoooooo!!" and with valid reasons?
DeleteWhen will people learn that phone service is not a human right?
DeleteMoreover, when will they learn that they can't force AT&T to spend hundreds of millions (by adding fees to your cell phone service) to support an antiquated infrastructure that almost no one uses anymore just because a few morons don't want to upgrade and think phone service is their infallible savior from death?
Some of is live in areas with little or no cell phone coverage.
DeleteCry me a river. I don't get cell service where I live, but I don't demand that someone subsidize my phone service. I just make sure I have decent medical supplies, plenty of ammo, an internet connection so I can message people, and a radio so I can talk to the neighbors nearby.
DeleteI'm 78 years old. I don't think the list of nice things you have would do me any good if me or my wife were to suffer a heart attack or stroke.
DeleteWe have AT&T what used to be Uverse. We have something we call a landline, but the service comes through the AT&T router just like TV & internet so When the internet goes out, so do the "landlines".
ReplyDeleteIt's just another way to force people out of the countryside and into those 15 minute cities the Left has been pushing...or maybe not.
ReplyDeleteI can see there may be some trepidation for folks with POTS (Plain Old Telephone Service) since the copper wires may go away to be replaced with optical fiber. More telcos are doing that because copper is more expensive to maintain, requires more equipment in the field to support, and telcos are also required to share their copper networks with competitors if those competitors ask them to do so. Fiber optic networks are not required to be shared.
If fiber replaces copper, that doesn't mean landline telephone service will go away. It just means that the technology that connects their landline phone to the central office will use fiber optics rather than copper twisted pairs as has been used for over 120+ years.
Twice when I lived in the Copper Country a beaver chewed through the lone fiber cable. Internet, telephone and 911 service was out for about a day and a half each time.
DeleteBeavers didn't chew the copper lines.
Starker here,
DeletePOTS uses pairs, not twisted pairs. That's part of the problem. The other is outdoor splices that are not completely sealed. The cables are usually 25, 50, 100 pairs. When everyone has Telco and a pair goes bad they try switching the bad pair around until it's with a customer that doesn't complain. Otherwise they have to run a new cable, that's expensive.
99% of businesses use landlines
ReplyDeleteI think you are confusing a corded phone sitting on a desk as being connected to a landline. The vast majority of businesses use VOIP for their phones these days.
DeleteI was for keeping landlines because they were required to stay functional in a power outage much longer than cellular systems. My landline was unusable in wet weather because of hum, so probably wouldn't have worked anyway, even if the phone system was up. I switched to magicJack instead of paying my ISP for their phone service. The unwanted calls still come in just fine...
ReplyDeleteJim_R
I am in favor of keeping the old school landline, infact bring it back for the "free phone service" provided by government "Assistance", maybe that will reduce the graft involved in that program.
ReplyDeleteMy mother lives in a rural area, with no cell coverage, doesn't do internet, but is aware of what it is. If she had no landline that nice Indian chap wouldn't be able call and check on her extended car warranty, and she might not ever learn about her student loans program.
Interesting to see "staunch conservatives" advocating free stuff, when it benefits them. There is a reason that nobody takes conservatives seriously.
ReplyDeleteI am serious about it the program, which actually started under Reagan as an assistance, if you provide a phone service, why shouldn't be a land line?, I agree with the concept of making communication possible for those who need to access the job market,, but am opposed to making it too easy for them.
DeleteI'm not sure what Reagan has to do with it. This program is not "free", it's paid for by someone. What you mean to say is that you are OK with compelling someone else to pay for this thing, because you agree with it.
DeleteI understand that there is no such thing as a free lunch, but considering all the other items given as a "form of rights" I am less offended in providing a communication link intended to allow someone to try and get a job, the phone program started back in the 80's and only covered 911 and local service. Somehow it turned into free cell phones and then became free Internet smart phones. The landline wall phone is good enough, and fulfills the original intent of the program. Considering how much money's we don't have that is being sent to foreign countries the amount spent on this program is insignificant, and actually does get something done for the US people.
Delete@(((DOC B))) - See if these letters mean anything to you: GFYS.
ReplyDeleteYour hate keeps me warm, redneck.
DeleteAs expected from an anonymous COWARD.
DeleteHAM radio guy here. What's all this talk about reliable communications?
ReplyDeleteOhh, you can still have a land line. See, we'll just bundle it in with your cable service for maximum savings! What's that you say? You don't need cable TV or internet? That's OK, you can still keep the phone line part of the package.........and it's only $275/month.
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