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It doesn't really make much difference to me as far as carry guns go when it'll typically be used at 10 yards or less. My Model 65 shoots dead on at that range, and I do mean dead on.
For my big bore revolvers I prefer adjustable sights - not necessarily for any advantage of accuracy, but for a crisper sight picture.
I've had some big bore revolvers where I needed to drift the front blade some, not fun. And yes, adjustable sights do give crisper sight picture. I use some over or under hold depending on when I'm shooting magnums vs normal loads (.357 vs .38, .44 mag vs .44 special, etc.), but once sights are centered I pretty much never adjust.
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ReplyDeleteNobody should have a handgun without a RDS on top. Complete game-changer.
ReplyDeleteTried it once and watched that red dot bounce all around what I was trying to aim at. I can hit just fine with iron sights. I'll stick with what works for me.
DeleteI don't like them personally
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No optics on any of my handguns.
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DeleteI've seen the target you shot when qualifying for your CCW permit with your Model 65. I wouldn't change a thing. That target was awesome.
I think I've still got that picture around here someplace.
DeleteAgreed; red dot sight on a pistol is a complete game-changer.
DeleteSimple answer.... YES
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Long guns, yes. Pistols, not so much. Some of my revolvers have a groove on the top of the cylinder strap and I can hit what I aim at fine with them.
ReplyDeleteI have a red dot on one pistol and a laser on another and if you are inside the area I consider mine and are "threatening"; well then, that's splat. In those moments it's practice and muscle memory.
ReplyDeleteFor shooting at distant targets, the adjustables front blade and rear notch are easier to shoot with, The blade notch has more room on sides to fine tune your hold, more sure to hit your aiming point.
ReplyDeleteAs wirecutter stated, close-up doesn't appear to make much of a difference. Your hold and natural grip specific to that gun (I think) makes hitting your target easier. For me, shooting a fixed sight blade using the gun's frame notch blocks out more of your target.
Maybe that is why it is harder to hit at distant objects than adjustables ?
Ken, that is what I meant by being a game changer. That red dot of yours was not bouncing. Your handgun was! Really gives the shooter excellent feedback.
ReplyDeleteExcept with iron sights, I can bring the gun up, line up the sights, shoot right away and hit what I'm aiming at. With the red dot, I found I was spending time trying to get that dot on target instead of shooting. That might make the difference in a life or death situation.
DeleteI'm not saying they don't work or are inferior, they're just not right for me. Read Elmo's comment above. Why change what works?
Ken, I know what you’re saying. There is a learning curve involved with a red dot. My thought is square range drills will get you killed in real life. Shooting with movement- going for cover, concealment, creating distance is real. So is an attackers actions-movement. And the attacks? More of them occurring now. Multiple assailants. A Sig P365 with a RDS sight gives you 17 rounds. The RDS gives you the instant feedback you need. And it weighs less than your Model 65 with only 6 rounds. If you look at USPSA scores, the lesser shooters with optics are bettering the better shooters shooting with iron sights. Even the Unclassified shooters are faster and more accurate with optics than the A classification shooters with irons.
DeleteSure, I understand what you're saying, especially with the learning curve. I may pick one up someday, although that means I'll also have to buy a new carry gun which is really going to piss my wife off.
DeleteI do want to say one thing: Thank you for keeping this conversation civil. It seems to be a rare thing nowadays. I really do appreciate it.
No worries, Ken. I just want to say my “aha” moment was when I realized my not being able to find the dot was really my not building my ideal grip. My brain knows how I want to hold the gun. But that is it. If there is a slight difference in building my grip, my muzzle is not where I want it to be. Which manifests itself in my not finding the dot. Irons allow microsecond corrections to get the muzzle on target- but my grip is still wrong. Ever milk the grip between shots? Lift fingers off the grip, then tighten them back up? That is your subconscious telling you you have the wrong grip. A little practice drawing and dry firing with a rds and you get good.
DeleteYah, the internet. Crazy place sometimes. Thanks for your efforts here.
I have an astigmatism and I find the glass and dot combination creates a worse sight-picture for me ....now I do believe in the green night sights that I have installed on my carry weapons, which for some reason is easier and faster for me to find and align my shots... so maybe a green dot would work better for me but what I have works so ....
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I put a red dot on a rifle and that works. On a pistol I am always looking for the damn dot. So for red dots, rifles maybe, pistols a hard no. But that is me
DeleteYou have to put in quite a bit of time perfecting your draw stroke, but it is absolutely worth it
DeleteI bought a Girsan 1911 with a red dot. I'm sure most of the problem is me but I've found it almost impossible to draw and get a sight picture and fire and that was before the red dot started acting up. They included an iron sight but the holes don't line up so it doesn't fit.
ReplyDeleteAiming is overrated, I just blast away & hope for the best.
ReplyDeleteDanny DeVito... is that you?
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