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Wednesday, August 14, 2024

Majority Says First Amendment ‘Goes Too Far,’ According to Poll

Free speech suppression on college campuses and social media censorship often spur debates over how far the First Amendment should go to protect Americans’ rights to express their opinions – and who should be entrusted with those decisions.

About 53% of Americans believe the First Amendment goes too far in the rights it protects, according to a new poll by the nonprofit Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, or FIRE.
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32 comments:

  1. It's Microsoft, so you know how much to believe it. The trend is disturbing, though.

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  2. Government Indoctrination Centers and Mockingbird Media work to poison the minds

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  3. When boomers and gen-x are dead, it'll be easy.

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  4. Those who SAY the first amendment goes too far should be LOCKED UP.
    Oops..............................

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  5. As with most polls, it's complete BS- easily manipulated to support whatever position they're pushing- sample size is 1000 people (about .000003% of the total population)- misrepresentation of results- from the article " About 53% of Americans believe the First Amendment goes too far in the rights it protects..."- notice how Ms Jessop & FIRE spokespeople frequently interchange "Americans" and "respondents"- dishonest reporting-

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  6. Social engineering at educational institutions results in social evolution as surely as the sun rises in the east. It takes time, but the Marxists know how to play the long game. I know you don't want to hear it but the decimation of the 1st will be followed by the decimation of the 2nd and so on.

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  7. It was ten or fifteen years ago that I first heard that UC Merced had set up an area on campus that was designated as a Free Speech Zone, so as to not trigger more sensitive students that might not agree with other's opinions.

    That was about the same time period that America had 'freely and fairly' elected our first half black, half white man who may or may not have been born here as president.
    That was coincidentally about the same time I realized "We're doomed".

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    1. I think that was Modesto Junior College. Then they disciplined a young man for handing out pocket Constitutions ON CONSTITUTION DAY outside of the 'free speech area' which was located in a small out of the way corner at the back of the campus. As I recall, MJC got their asses handed to them when the student took them to court.

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    2. You're right. I tried to find the original map I saw of the tiny area set aside as a Free Speech Zone. I didn't find one for U.C. Merced but did find the one for MJC.

      And in the search I ran, a picture popped up of a big 'Free Speech Zone Area' sign getting tagged by a guy with "FUCK YOU" in big letters.
      I don't approve of the 'art' of tagging, but in that guys case I'll make an exception.

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  8. Since the first amendment covers freedom of religion and that includes islam, I would have to agree. There is no way a freedom to encourage 'death to it's detractors (infidels)' should be protected at all.

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    1. A closer examination of what was once called routinely Mohammedanism will reveal it to be not a religion, but a violent and deadly cult of submission.

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    2. Any organization that calls for conversion or death... is not a religion.

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    3. islam was not in mind when the First Amendment was written. That filth was however directly in mind when your young nation raised a Navy and a Marine Corps to go teach the beasts of the earth a lesson.

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  9. We lost the 1st Amendment as soon as 'hate speech' was made illegal.

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  10. My wife is a Boomer and I'm a pre-Boomer. My dad was in a protected industry. Anyway, we worry constantly about that 50% or more of the voters who voted for Obama, Biden and will vote for Harris and the service dodger. I guess they'll get the country they want, including my Democrat brother, son and daughter-in-law.

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  11. Ironic....they use speech to outlaw speech. If it were not tragic, evil and destined to harvest an ocean of blood and misery, it would be funny. Take heart....The Lord is sovereign and will requite all sins, whether by salvation or damnation. Stand firm, but be wise...this is ours for the asking. He will provide!

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  12. Trying to gut Constitutional rights is actually going too far.
    But it's what communists do.
    CC

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  13. 1/2 the people in any given group are under average intelligence, so...

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    1. Bet you wouldn't say that about a Mensa meeting. /s

      Sarcasm aside, the gist of your point is well taken.

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    2. I use to be in Mensa and I'd say it.

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    3. George Carlin took note of how stupid the average person is, and then realizing that half the people are even dumber than that.

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  14. Nothing will come of it. If it were to be, MSM woud have to tell the truth, and that would wipe out democratic party. It would go from "all the news that's fit to print" to "this is what some unknown person said, and it might be true, or not".
    irontomflint

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  15. I think that most of the respondents think the 1st gives total and absolute free speech. Freedom of speech is curtailed by slander and libel laws. ALWAYS HAS BEEN.

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  16. Thank goodness this is a republic because 53% of the vote could enslave the 47% if we weren't. Whew , were safe.... for the moment.

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  17. Check out Dietrich Bonhoeffer and Carlo Cipolla's theory of stupidity - especially Cipolla's.
    "https://qz.com/967554/the-five-universal-laws-of-human-stupidity". The Democrat Party (it's voters and politicians), Marxists, Commies, etc., clearly fall into the stupid (voters) and bandits (politicians) quadrants of the graph (near bottom of article). Stupid people do things, including voting, that harm others and either harm themselves or at best do not benefit from harming others. Bandits (politicians) do things that harm others but do benefit themselves from harming others. Even though bandits are evil, Cipolla's theory is that the stupid people are the most dangerous. This theory fits the Democrats and other leftist Ideologies "to the T" - check it out!


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    1. Thank you for very much for that link. FYI, it contains a link to a much cleaner & less "newsy" article

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    2. An even cleaner one
      https://sproutsschools.com/bonhoeffers-theory-of-stupidity/

      WiscoDave

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    3. Bonhoeffer was no Christian, and any Christian worth his salt knows it. Same as MLK. There are worthier martyrs, and beware those who lay down with those dogs. Fleas migrate...

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  18. Free speech is not standing up for the rights of people to say what you believe in, free speech is standing up for the rights of people to say what you hate.
    In The Friends of Voltaire, Hall wrote: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" as an illustration of Voltaire's beliefs. This quotation – which is sometimes misattributed to Voltaire himself

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  19. If true then America is lost.

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  20. The founding fathers did not go through the effort of recognizing the importance of freedom of speech in their new republic, to where they made it the first of their amendments, just to protect "flowery prose".

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