Among many things done right, Germany doesn't allow daytime trucking. Only at night but the trade off is coming back from a training exercise is a bitch.
The same truck drivers pass with negligible, and variable, delta-V in every state and on every multi-lane highway, if they aren't actually pacing each other. I once spent more than 45 minutes behind a pair of these bastards on I-24 east of Nashville, and because I knew where my bumpers were, I was able to pass the asshole on his right before he could tell that he was clear of the semi in the right lane. It wasn't all bad though, I spent the first ten minutes dialing in my cruise control to match the bastards speed, before the availability of adaptive cruise control, which I considered a 'win'.
It was when I left there (heh) in 2016 and I don't see why they would change that. Even if you were in a pickup hauling a boat or utility trailer, it was 55 mph.
Some of the Texas metropolitan areas have a 'No Trucks in Left Lane' law. Of course, that doesn't stop those truckers that can't read - and there are apparently a few of them.
Also I-40 between Memphis and Little Rock. I'd like to have a nickel for everytime I've had to wait while a 59-mile-an-hour truck passed a 58-mile-an-hour truck.
problem 1 speed limiters. a lot of companies think its safer to govern trucks at a certain speed so it will take forever to pass someone who is going 1 mph slower. problem 2 cars think they own the roads and trucks have to obey them. when cars run side by side its not an issue ? and finally lane restrictions and separate speed limits. if we are all vehicles on the same road we should be subjects to the same law. traffic gets congested because no one can spread out . that's the polite answer. remember everything you have comes from a truck. everything. including your car. in your defense though, regulations forced a lot of real truck drivers out of business and you get idiots that don't respect anyone else. and drive trucks like a car.
That's the dumbest thing I've read all week. So what if everything comes off of a truck? Everything also comes off of trains and boats, but they have rules and regulations. A CDL isn't a license to be an asshole or put other lives at risk. Trucks absolutely need seperate rules from cars.
Not just tha Patels, so have the Zdanovitchs, Martinez’s, and the Ansouri’s. A friend works at a podunk fuel station in BF North Dakota and says truck drivers pull in frequently and say some variation of “Es diesel…200… good? They put a couple Ben Franklin’s down and head out to the pump.
My comment is about to piss all ya’ll off but here it is: Why does everyone treat driving like a gladiator game where surviving is being ahead of every other vehicle on the planet? We spend hours sitting on our asses in front of the TV watching over-paid, under-educated people running around with bouncing balls and think nothing of it, but if we are on the road we're pissed off because we see everyone in front of us as obstacles hindering us from getting to our destination as fast as we think we should..
Hey Bodside, it's because everyone has nano-bots in their system, especially the clot shotters(70+). they interact with 3-4-5 G, cell signals. Depending on what the controllers want, various behaviors come out on the road, depending on how they react individually and collectively, because the signals are adjustable and focusable. The wife and I have to go to Nashville for medical appointments and every couple miles there are massive, weapon grade cell towers. We see a wide range of herd behavior everytime. Everything from comatose to Nascar and everything in between. We watch what we consume to keep the bots to a minimum, plus we take horse paste and other anti parasite things. When we get home we feel thrashed, it takes a day to get over it. On the truckers, there is a lot of brown, foreign born, drivers out there. I frequent a truck stop on I-40, west of Nashville, LOTS of foreign born truckers.
I have often wondered why so many people are in a batshit hurry to get to work, the one place most don't want to be and will likely sit around at for 8 hours.
When you've got your corporate office leaning on your ass because it takes you longer to get to a trouble call 100 miles away than your contemporary in a big city, then it starts to matter.
I'm seeing this everywhere I go. If they are going fast enough I just lock the adaptive cruise control radar to the back of one of them and let it manage following distance. My truck has radar. I don't think my Grandfather would believe it.
If a few minutes of patience is beyond your ability that’s a you problem. It’s our road too. Imagine what it’s going to be like when all vehicles have the same amount of electronic equipment/devices controlling them as trucks do. All that shit is coming soon to a vehicle you drive in the name of safety because insurance companies will mandate it as has been done to trucks.
I have a cdl, done a bit of driving. It aint hard to tell when one of them is being an asshole.
I watch for how they pass and when. I just love getting behind one of them that does this shit a couple times. Not hard at all to finally get past them, then stay not to far ahead. watch for the right spot, usually a bit of grade coming up. Then slow down just in time that they cannot pass.
They lose momentum and its over. lol
I am not ashamed to admit I have done this, then stopped in a rest area and looked or that same truck to come by. Then do it again.
Years ago I was minding my own business driving the speed limit when a cement truck started riding my bumper. When a grade came up I slowed way down. Never saw him again.
Many miles of Interstate and State Highways in Texas with signs saying "No trucks left lane." Lots of truckers don't think that applies to them. Makes for huge backups when a truck going 65 gets in the left lane to pass a truck in the center lane going 64 which is passing a truck going 63 in the right lane and the speed limit is 75...which most of the cars are exceeding.
If people had to put up with the rules truckers do they'd be more sympathetic. Scales, inspections, highway patrol quotas, backing into docks on busy streets, loading and unloading, making sure you have chains, flags, flares, etc, on time delivery schedules, different laws in different states, and of course that damn log book.
I'm sympathetic to people that deal with a lot of bullshit in their jobs, I've been there, but I'm not sympathetic to anyone who does shit they know they are not allowed to do and do it anyway... There's no reason for anyone to block a lane of traffic by going 1-2mph faster than the vehicle they are trying to pass.. NONE JD
About fifteen years ago, an Alberta oil company performed a study with twelve of their trucks that travelled from Calgary, Alberta to Regina, Saskatchewan (around 480 miles.) They programmed the truck engine computers on six of the trucks to 109 kmh (about 67.7 mph) and the other six to 115 kmh (71.4 mph.) After a year, complaints were down significantly (hmmm,) fuel and maintenance costs on the slower six were down a total of $40000 - and the best part was the average difference in delivery time between the faster trucks and the slower ones was seven minutes. The slower trucks just stayed in the right lane and only lost seven minutes.
I was driving from Nashville down to Montgomery when I came up on a trucker in the left lane pacing the guy in the right at about 55. After about twenty miles the road opened to three lanes and I scooted past. I then rolled down the window and gave him the bird. Turns out his rig was capable of 90 plus. As we rolled into Montgomery in the left lane with him inches from my bumper, I spotted my exit and took it sliding across in front of a bus. He couldn't follow. When I topped the ramp I saw the police had a road block and stop sticks deployed. I hit a service station by the exit and a few moments later a trooper cruised in, gave me a thumbs up and left.
I was looking for the YouTube video of where a patrol car moved a road-block trucker out of the left lane, and then took off, but it has apparently been too many years and it's gone.
I finished up a million mile over the road career in '87. Back then, we were the last of the American cowboys....knights of the road. Truckers are just like everybody else as they can be just as ignorant as any fourwheeler. When I started in the early seventies, you could pull over with a flat, and five trucks were there to help you change it. Now, both truckers and four-wheelers will run over you if you try to open the door to get out.
Among many things done right, Germany doesn't allow daytime trucking. Only at night but the trade off is coming back from a training exercise is a bitch.
ReplyDeleteIt's not just California. Other states as well. Side by side blocking traffic.
ReplyDeleteYea, they do that in Michigan too...
DeleteThe same truck drivers pass with negligible, and variable, delta-V in every state and on every multi-lane highway, if they aren't actually pacing each other. I once spent more than 45 minutes behind a pair of these bastards on I-24 east of Nashville, and because I knew where my bumpers were, I was able to pass the asshole on his right before he could tell that he was clear of the semi in the right lane. It wasn't all bad though, I spent the first ten minutes dialing in my cruise control to match the bastards speed, before the availability of adaptive cruise control, which I considered a 'win'.
ReplyDeleteHaven't been to California in a while but isn't 55 mph the rule for towing and big rigs?
ReplyDeleteIt was when I left there (heh) in 2016 and I don't see why they would change that. Even if you were in a pickup hauling a boat or utility trailer, it was 55 mph.
DeleteThe commercial driving rules in Cali used to say they had to be able to effect the pass in under a quarter mile. But that was many years ago.
DeleteSome of the Texas metropolitan areas have a 'No Trucks in Left Lane' law. Of course, that doesn't stop those truckers that can't read - and there are apparently a few of them.
DeletePlenty of that on I81 in East Tenn although it’s mostly two lane
ReplyDeleteAlso I-40 between Memphis and Little Rock. I'd like to have a nickel for everytime I've had to wait while a 59-mile-an-hour truck passed a 58-mile-an-hour truck.
Deleteproblem 1 speed limiters. a lot of companies think its safer to govern trucks at a certain speed so it will take forever to pass someone who is going 1 mph slower. problem 2 cars think they own the roads and trucks have to obey them. when cars run side by side its not an issue ? and finally lane restrictions and separate speed limits. if we are all vehicles on the same road we should be subjects to the same law. traffic gets congested because no one can spread out . that's the polite answer. remember everything you have comes from a truck. everything. including your car. in your defense though, regulations forced a lot of real truck drivers out of business and you get idiots that don't respect anyone else. and drive trucks like a car.
ReplyDeleteThat's the dumbest thing I've read all week. So what if everything comes off of a truck? Everything also comes off of trains and boats, but they have rules and regulations. A CDL isn't a license to be an asshole or put other lives at risk. Trucks absolutely need seperate rules from cars.
DeleteThe Patels have moved into trucking.
DeleteNot just tha Patels, so have the Zdanovitchs, Martinez’s, and the Ansouri’s. A friend works at a podunk fuel station in BF North Dakota and says truck drivers pull in frequently and say some variation of “Es diesel…200… good? They put a couple Ben Franklin’s down and head out to the pump.
DeleteMy comment is about to piss all ya’ll off but here it is: Why does everyone treat driving like a gladiator game where surviving is being ahead of every other vehicle on the planet? We spend hours sitting on our asses in front of the TV watching over-paid, under-educated people running around with bouncing balls and think nothing of it, but if we are on the road we're pissed off because we see everyone in front of us as obstacles hindering us from getting to our destination as fast as we think we should..
ReplyDeleteHey Bodside, it's because everyone has nano-bots in their system, especially the clot shotters(70+). they interact with 3-4-5 G, cell signals. Depending on what the controllers want, various behaviors come out on the road, depending on how they react individually and collectively, because the signals are adjustable and focusable. The wife and I have to go to Nashville for medical appointments and every couple miles there are massive, weapon grade cell towers. We see a wide range of herd behavior everytime. Everything from comatose to Nascar and everything in between.
DeleteWe watch what we consume to keep the bots to a minimum, plus we take horse paste and other anti parasite things. When we get home we feel thrashed, it takes a day to get over it.
On the truckers, there is a lot of brown, foreign born, drivers out there. I frequent a truck stop on I-40, west of Nashville, LOTS of foreign born truckers.
I have often wondered why so many people are in a batshit hurry to get to work, the one place most don't want to be and will likely sit around at for 8 hours.
DeleteWhen you've got your corporate office leaning on your ass because it takes you longer to get to a trouble call 100 miles away than your contemporary in a big city, then it starts to matter.
DeleteI'm seeing this everywhere I go. If they are going fast enough I just lock the adaptive cruise control radar to the back of one of them and let it manage following distance. My truck has radar. I don't think my Grandfather would believe it.
ReplyDeleteif you were back in 5th grade would you believe Diesel Exhaust Fluid?
DeleteI would think that was a joke like blinker fluid
DeleteIf a few minutes of patience is beyond your ability that’s a you problem. It’s our road too. Imagine what it’s going to be like when all vehicles have the same amount of electronic equipment/devices controlling them as trucks do. All that shit is coming soon to a vehicle you drive in the name of safety because insurance companies will mandate it as has been done to trucks.
ReplyDeleteDoesn't affect me; I already own the cars I'm gonna have when I die.
DeleteI have a cdl, done a bit of driving. It aint hard to tell when one of them is being an asshole.
ReplyDeleteI watch for how they pass and when. I just love getting behind one of them that does this shit a couple times. Not hard at all to finally get past them, then stay not to far ahead. watch for the right spot, usually a bit of grade coming up. Then slow down just in time that they cannot pass.
They lose momentum and its over. lol
I am not ashamed to admit I have done this, then stopped in a rest area and looked or that same truck to come by. Then do it again.
Years ago I was minding my own business driving the speed limit when a cement truck started riding my bumper. When a grade came up I slowed way down. Never saw him again.
DeleteNot limited to California…a distinct lack of courtesy with some truckers.knowing it will take 10 miles to pass another truck….pull out and try
ReplyDeleteUphill, the Badtards!
DeleteIn SC we have a great, new law. Every 10 miles on the Interstates there's a large sign saying the following:
ReplyDeleteSTATE LAW
SLOWER TRAFFIC MOVE RIGHT
Asked a Trooper - "First time, warning ticket. Second time, ticket." Since enactment last year, he's issued 50+ tickets.
I 81 is notorious for trucks to run side by side for hours.
ReplyDeleteThere's an easy fix for this. Prohibit tractor trailers from the left lane on a three lane interstate.
ReplyDeleteIt already is in California. Didn't help any.
DeleteMany miles of Interstate and State Highways in Texas with signs saying "No trucks left lane." Lots of truckers don't think that applies to them. Makes for huge backups when a truck going 65 gets in the left lane to pass a truck in the center lane going 64 which is passing a truck going 63 in the right lane and the speed limit is 75...which most of the cars are exceeding.
DeleteIf people had to put up with the rules truckers do they'd be more sympathetic. Scales, inspections, highway patrol quotas, backing into docks on busy streets, loading and unloading, making sure you have chains, flags, flares, etc, on time delivery schedules, different laws in different states, and of course that damn log book.
ReplyDeleteI am familiar with much of the BS truckers have to deal with. I have sympathy.
DeleteI do not have sympathy for anyone - truckers or cars - who camp in the left lane. It's a purely selfish behavior.
I'm sympathetic to people that deal with a lot of bullshit in their jobs, I've been there, but I'm not sympathetic to anyone who does shit they know they are not allowed to do and do it anyway... There's no reason for anyone to block a lane of traffic by going 1-2mph faster than the vehicle they are trying to pass.. NONE
DeleteJD
About fifteen years ago, an Alberta oil company performed a study with twelve of their trucks that travelled from Calgary, Alberta to Regina, Saskatchewan (around 480 miles.) They programmed the truck engine computers on six of the trucks to 109 kmh (about 67.7 mph) and the other six to 115 kmh (71.4 mph.) After a year, complaints were down significantly (hmmm,) fuel and maintenance costs on the slower six were down a total of $40000 - and the best part was the average difference in delivery time between the faster trucks and the slower ones was seven minutes. The slower trucks just stayed in the right lane and only lost seven minutes.
DeleteThat's not California. It's Atlanta, I-285, about one semi for every car!
ReplyDeleteI was driving from Nashville down to Montgomery when I came up on a trucker in the left lane pacing the guy in the right at about 55. After about twenty miles the road opened to three lanes and I scooted past. I then rolled down the window and gave him the bird. Turns out his rig was capable of 90 plus. As we rolled into Montgomery in the left lane with him inches from my bumper, I spotted my exit and took it sliding across in front of a bus. He couldn't follow. When I topped the ramp I saw the police had a road block and stop sticks deployed.
ReplyDeleteI hit a service station by the exit and a few moments later a trooper cruised in, gave me a thumbs up and left.
I love it.
DeleteI was looking for the YouTube video of where a patrol car moved a road-block trucker out of the left lane, and then took off, but it has apparently been too many years and it's gone.
I finished up a million mile over the road career in '87.
ReplyDeleteBack then, we were the last of the American cowboys....knights of the road.
Truckers are just like everybody else as they can be just as ignorant as any fourwheeler.
When I started in the early seventies, you could pull over with a flat, and five trucks were there to help you change it.
Now, both truckers and four-wheelers will run over you if you try to open the door to get out.