Yes. Epstein was a pedo and Maxwell was his pimp, so she was properly charged. The rest is mostly rumor and innuendo used for political gain and media ratings. There's still Bill Clinton (above the law) and Prince Andrew who paid off his victim. But there's no huge list of perps being kept secret, if there was it would have been leaked for the gain or ratings.
In the little town I live in, one of the police officers found a city council member in the backseat with an underage girl. The chief of police was called out and let the councilman go ... with the understanding he would protect the police budget at all costs.
This is how the Epstein list works. The people on the list are allowed to live their lives and occasionally those with the list ask a favor or tell them how to vote. If you're comfortable calling that sort of control a distraction, more power to you.
I've long stopped believing that we live in a democracy or a republic. We live in a kleptocracy. Hopefully those controlling the list are pro-American, but I sincerely doubt it.
Epstein's jobs wasn't pimp, nor was it to supply underage children. His job was to create blackmail material. He was good at it, and was the top supplier for decades. He didn't work for the country's elite, he worked for the CIA.
It's unlikely he was actually killed to shut him up, as it would have been to easy for him to set up a contingency release plan.
The latest "there was no files" bullshit it nothing more or less than a signal to his clients that they're still safe - as long as they continue to toe the line.
AnonymousJuly 18, 2025 at 6:44 PM : Fuck that. I don't GAF if the people controlling the list are pro Trump, pro American, pro life, whatever. If there's a list or better yet, videos of chomos, I want HEADS ON FUCKING PIKES. Preferably, enough to line the reflecting pool all the way around. Sadly, things keep going the way they are, that's what it might take to set our path straight again.
#16 - hell, no! #BlankTheBallot2026. Every one of them that voted for the onebigbeautifulsh*tsandwich bill with its FIVE TRILLION increase in the debt ceiling, they must be fired. Including the ones that tough-talked and then voted Yes in the end (looking at you, Chip Roy). Start over from scratch. Yes it will take awhile. The 21st century is a lost cause. Do it for the great-great-grandchildren in the 22nd.
Vote American Party. Elon was right. If Trump (or his friends) are not in the list it would have been released already. The democrats are not an option and republicans are corrupt (Epstein list, BBB, etc). Burn the 2 party system and start from scratch.
"If Trump (or his friends) are not in the list it would have been released already."
Think about what you just said. Biden had those files for years. If Trump's name was in there in an incriminating way, don't you think Biden would've have released that information immediately? He did everything else he could to destroy Trump with bullshit charges, so why not release at least that part of the file?
Ok. So you think Trump and his friends are not on the list. Then release the fucking documents. Let people know who did what.
Assuming that republicans are not in the docs because Biden would have released them ignores the fact that Biden was senile, grossly incompetent and couldn't change his own diaper. Not to mention your first meme (#1 here). Republicans and Democrats are two sides of the same corrupt system. Those arms are not arm-wrestling, they are holding each other. They fight in public but protect each other behind closed doors. Only patsies and low level politicians ever go to jail. Hillary is free, Bill is free, Bush is free, Acosta is free, Bill Bar is free, need I say more? The two party system is corrupt.
Release everything. Let everyone see. Redact only the names of the victims. Everything else has to be public. Who went where, when, etc.
Okay, you're insinuating that I think they shouldn't release the files even though all I said was I don't think Trump is on the list and I even explained why. As far as Biden being too feeble minded, then why didn't his handlers release them? Huh? If you're a regular reader here, surely you've seen where I've said numerous times they should be released. I've also stated I don't give a damn who's names are on them, nor do I care if they're Republican or Democrat, but whoever's name is on them needs to be investigated and prosecuted. There, is it finally clear to you?
100% clear. Release all the documents. I don't care why Biden didn't do it. I don't care why Trump doesn't do it. As painful as it is right now, in this subject Trump is not better than Biden.
I'm with you on that. They should've been released long before Trump came back into office, but they weren't and now Trump needs to step up and keep his promise.
There is no 'Epstein List.' That's a shorthand name for a vast trove of incriminating documents, photos, videos, flight logs, victim statements, which, taken together, would be evidence of crimes. The FBi and SDNY have these documents.
Here's the problem, as spelled out at Naomi Wolf's column at Substack yesterday -
I think that it is likely that multiple people who are critical to this administration’s success — my guess is, that these are mostly guys from the Silicon Valley community, who have been the ones to put the fuel of their billions and their technical and media support into President Trump’s campaign and administration’s engines — whether they are innocent or guilty, are in the Epstein files. (Remember why Mrs Gates broke up with Mr Gates?) And I think this nation’s most important scientists, innocent or guilty, are in the files. And my guess is that the funders have confronted President Trump. - If you read the hieroglyphics here correctly, what you should see (this is why it is useful to have been a political consultant; you can read the code, which often involves triangulation or “deniability”) that A/ President Trump is not on this list. B/ President Trump does not wish the horrific baggage of being the one to infuriate all the powerful people who are on this list, by releasing it himself via his AG. C/ They — the Trump administration — want it released by others, ie, the New York courts, so that they themselves don’t receive the appalling blowback.
If any of that was true, the documents would have been released when Biden controlled the DOJ when they were working overtime to derail a second Trump presidency.
Ms Wolf has a serious possibility she is discussing. The biden admin was in the same boat as the Trump admin, none of them want to crucify the powers that be.
I am in the burn it all down party. If our nation is dependent on blackmailing and/or protecting scum, what is the point?
Well, the chit's hittin' the fan. DNI Tulsi Gabbard has referred a whole trove of documents to DOJ implicating Brennan, Comey, Clapper and OBAMA in a criminal conspiracy to subvert Trump's first term.
Even if none of these guys go to jail, their reputations are trashed and the MSM and the Demonrat party ain't saving them this time.
Our rulers are above the law and the only standard a democracist voter holds is the double. In old Soviet Union the people got show trials, all we can manage are show investigations. Nothing much will change. The media will do their utmost to bury any stories about that and the women and various grievance culture tribes will continue to vote blue.
...and this is how effg dumb those four are. They left behind DOCUMENTED evidence of their conspiracy.
This is what happens when these kind of people think they're the smartest people in the room.
I'd love to see that smug pompous prick Obama looking out from the inside of a jail cell. Better yet, perp walked out of his home at zero dark thirty with camera crews from ABCCNNNBCCBSNYTLATCHITRIBWAPO in attendance to witness the arresting crew; who arrive in armored bearcats with 50 cal's mounted, blowing the front door off its hinges.
I know, that'll never happen because Black Jesus Obama. It's a nice thought though isn't it?
If you'd like to send well wishes or other greetings to Obama, you can do so here:
https://barackobama.com/contact/
Don't use your real name. Don't threaten him with bodily harm. That'll get YOU arrested, prosecuted and jailed. Even though he's an asshole of the highest order, he's an ex-president with a large Secret Service detail guarding him and his family personally, 24/7/365. They also guard each of his three homes the same. That detail don't take kindly to threats unless it's threats to President Trump ;-)).
Funny that Tulsi released this on a Friday afternoon like the Demonrats do when they have some explosive revelation that they REALLY want to go away.
Are they expecting this bombshell to go away over the weekend or is this just the softening up preliminary barrage taking out their defenses, with the bunker buster to be dropped on Monday or Tuesday? What a delicious thought.
After I thought about it, there probably never was a “client” list. However, I am pretty sure there are flight logs and manifests, credit card receipts, cell/satellite phone gps data, and a few other means of locating someone that IS avaiable. It wasn’t that hard to locate J6’ers and round them up for persecution. Then, there is the staff. The names are there, just have to work for them. And I don’t care whose names are found out. Put each and every one of the scum in the hole in the dungeon. Look it up to find out what that mesns.
Gunny is partly correct. Would Epstein have kept complete flight manifests? Depends on the person flying. I know of groups who meet regularly. Rule 1, turn your cell phone off and leave it at home. Rule 2, don't drive directly to the meeting. Three stops minimum, one is a known shelter who tells you whether you may advance. Rule 3. Park a distance away, enter a business nearby and exit by the back door. Rule 4, different vehicle for each meeting. Kept me alive when doing under cover. Give modern technology, they could fabricate videos and every piece of data they desire.
Ding, ding! Masonry (and satanism) FTW! There's all sorts of secret handshakes and codes that the secret combinations use to identify eachother. Of course, in the age of the internet, all that's available to the public if you care enough to look.
One of the most damning photos I ever saw was a group of celebrities showing off their matching red shoes. (Which means their feet were red with the blood of the "hornless goat" i.e. human sacrifice.)
Not that anybody cares, but if the courts or various investigative agencies actually gave a damn, it wouldn't be hard AT ALL to uncover with modern investigative tools.
But they're all putting their efforts into covering it all up instead. I can't imagine why they'd do such a thing, of course.
Lets face it, the sex stuff is just the facia, the gingerbread, the icing on the cake that attracts the flies. Epstien's real business was espianage and nobody talks about that!
Oh we're talking about it, we can't say what country he was spying for, well Tucker Carlson did, because we're not allowed to say anything bad about them lest we are attacked for being.. you know what. Greatest allies my ass JD
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Epstein and his non-existent client list are a distraction.
ReplyDeleteYes. Epstein was a pedo and Maxwell was his pimp, so she was properly charged. The rest is mostly rumor and innuendo used for political gain and media ratings. There's still Bill Clinton (above the law) and Prince Andrew who paid off his victim. But there's no huge list of perps being kept secret, if there was it would have been leaked for the gain or ratings.
DeleteBugger off!
DeleteIn the little town I live in, one of the police officers found a city council member in the backseat with an underage girl. The chief of police was called out and let the councilman go ... with the understanding he would protect the police budget at all costs.
DeleteThis is how the Epstein list works. The people on the list are allowed to live their lives and occasionally those with the list ask a favor or tell them how to vote. If you're comfortable calling that sort of control a distraction, more power to you.
I've long stopped believing that we live in a democracy or a republic. We live in a kleptocracy. Hopefully those controlling the list are pro-American, but I sincerely doubt it.
Epstein's jobs wasn't pimp, nor was it to supply underage children. His job was to create blackmail material. He was good at it, and was the top supplier for decades. He didn't work for the country's elite, he worked for the CIA.
DeleteIt's unlikely he was actually killed to shut him up, as it would have been to easy for him to set up a contingency release plan.
The latest "there was no files" bullshit it nothing more or less than a signal to his clients that they're still safe - as long as they continue to toe the line.
John G.
You misspelled Mossad
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DeleteAnonymousJuly 18, 2025 at 6:44 PM : Fuck that. I don't GAF if the people controlling the list are pro Trump, pro American, pro life, whatever. If there's a list or better yet, videos of chomos, I want HEADS ON FUCKING PIKES. Preferably, enough to line the reflecting pool all the way around. Sadly, things keep going the way they are, that's what it might take to set our path straight again.
#16 - hell, no! #BlankTheBallot2026. Every one of them that voted for the onebigbeautifulsh*tsandwich bill with its FIVE TRILLION increase in the debt ceiling, they must be fired. Including the ones that tough-talked and then voted Yes in the end (looking at you, Chip Roy). Start over from scratch. Yes it will take awhile. The 21st century is a lost cause. Do it for the great-great-grandchildren in the 22nd.
ReplyDeleteStupid party vs Evil party.
Delete--Tennessee Budd
Vote American Party. Elon was right.
DeleteIf Trump (or his friends) are not in the list it would have been released already.
The democrats are not an option and republicans are corrupt (Epstein list, BBB, etc). Burn the 2 party system and start from scratch.
"If Trump (or his friends) are not in the list it would have been released already."
DeleteThink about what you just said. Biden had those files for years. If Trump's name was in there in an incriminating way, don't you think Biden would've have released that information immediately? He did everything else he could to destroy Trump with bullshit charges, so why not release at least that part of the file?
Ok. So you think Trump and his friends are not on the list. Then release the fucking documents. Let people know who did what.
DeleteAssuming that republicans are not in the docs because Biden would have released them ignores the fact that Biden was senile, grossly incompetent and couldn't change his own diaper.
Not to mention your first meme (#1 here). Republicans and Democrats are two sides of the same corrupt system. Those arms are not arm-wrestling, they are holding each other. They fight in public but protect each other behind closed doors. Only patsies and low level politicians ever go to jail. Hillary is free, Bill is free, Bush is free, Acosta is free, Bill Bar is free, need I say more? The two party system is corrupt.
Release everything. Let everyone see. Redact only the names of the victims. Everything else has to be public. Who went where, when, etc.
Okay, you're insinuating that I think they shouldn't release the files even though all I said was I don't think Trump is on the list and I even explained why. As far as Biden being too feeble minded, then why didn't his handlers release them? Huh?
DeleteIf you're a regular reader here, surely you've seen where I've said numerous times they should be released. I've also stated I don't give a damn who's names are on them, nor do I care if they're Republican or Democrat, but whoever's name is on them needs to be investigated and prosecuted. There, is it finally clear to you?
100% clear. Release all the documents. I don't care why Biden didn't do it. I don't care why Trump doesn't do it.
DeleteAs painful as it is right now, in this subject Trump is not better than Biden.
I'm with you on that. They should've been released long before Trump came back into office, but they weren't and now Trump needs to step up and keep his promise.
DeleteI'm undecided if # 5 or # 8 is the most truth
ReplyDeleteJD
There is no 'Epstein List.' That's a shorthand name for a vast trove of incriminating documents, photos, videos, flight logs, victim statements, which, taken together, would be evidence of crimes. The FBi and SDNY have these documents.
ReplyDeleteHere's the problem, as spelled out at Naomi Wolf's column at Substack yesterday -
I think that it is likely that multiple people who are critical to this administration’s success — my guess is, that these are mostly guys from the Silicon Valley community, who have been the ones to put the fuel of their billions and their technical and media support into President Trump’s campaign and administration’s engines — whether they are innocent or guilty, are in the Epstein files. (Remember why Mrs Gates broke up with Mr Gates?) And I think this nation’s most important scientists, innocent or guilty, are in the files. And my guess is that the funders have confronted President Trump.
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If you read the hieroglyphics here correctly, what you should see (this is why it is useful to have been a political consultant; you can read the code, which often involves triangulation or “deniability”) that A/ President Trump is not on this list. B/ President Trump does not wish the horrific baggage of being the one to infuriate all the powerful people who are on this list, by releasing it himself via his AG. C/ They — the Trump administration — want it released by others, ie, the New York courts, so that they themselves don’t receive the appalling blowback.
Bs
Delete"Let truth and justice prevail, though the heavens may fall!" - H/T to whoever said that.
DeleteIf any of that was true, the documents would have been released when Biden controlled the DOJ when they were working overtime to derail a second Trump presidency.
DeleteMs Wolf has a serious possibility she is discussing.
DeleteThe biden admin was in the same boat as the Trump admin, none of them want to crucify the powers that be.
I am in the burn it all down party. If our nation is dependent on blackmailing and/or protecting scum, what is the point?
Well, the chit's hittin' the fan. DNI Tulsi Gabbard has referred a whole trove of documents to DOJ implicating Brennan, Comey, Clapper and OBAMA in a criminal conspiracy to subvert Trump's first term.
ReplyDeleteEven if none of these guys go to jail, their reputations are trashed and the MSM and the Demonrat party ain't saving them this time.
https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/press-releases-2025/4086-pr-15-25
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1946271402971312514.html
Nemo
Our rulers are above the law and the only standard a democracist voter holds is the double. In old Soviet Union the people got show trials, all we can manage are show investigations. Nothing much will change. The media will do their utmost to bury any stories about that and the women and various grievance culture tribes will continue to vote blue.
DeleteThere is no statute of limitations for treason.
DeleteJpaul
...and this is how effg dumb those four are. They left behind DOCUMENTED evidence of their conspiracy.
DeleteThis is what happens when these kind of people think they're the smartest people in the room.
I'd love to see that smug pompous prick Obama looking out from the inside of a jail cell. Better yet, perp walked out of his home at zero dark thirty with camera crews from ABCCNNNBCCBSNYTLATCHITRIBWAPO in attendance to witness the arresting crew; who arrive in armored bearcats with 50 cal's mounted, blowing the front door off its hinges.
I know, that'll never happen because Black Jesus Obama. It's a nice thought though isn't it?
If you'd like to send well wishes or other greetings to Obama, you can do so here:
https://barackobama.com/contact/
Don't use your real name. Don't threaten him with bodily harm. That'll get YOU arrested, prosecuted and jailed. Even though he's an asshole of the highest order, he's an ex-president with a large Secret Service detail guarding him and his family personally, 24/7/365. They also guard each of his three homes the same. That detail don't take kindly to threats unless it's threats to President Trump ;-)).
Funny that Tulsi released this on a Friday afternoon like the Demonrats do when they have some explosive revelation that they REALLY want to go away.
Are they expecting this bombshell to go away over the weekend or is this just the softening up preliminary barrage taking out their defenses, with the bunker buster to be dropped on Monday or Tuesday? What a delicious thought.
Nemo
After I thought about it, there probably never was a “client” list. However, I am pretty sure there are flight logs and manifests, credit card receipts, cell/satellite phone gps data, and a few other means of locating someone that IS avaiable. It wasn’t that hard to locate J6’ers and round them up for persecution. Then, there is the staff. The names are there, just have to work for them. And I don’t care whose names are found out. Put each and every one of the scum in the hole in the dungeon. Look it up to find out what that mesns.
ReplyDeleteBill shit!
DeleteCalm down, Bill.
DeleteGunny is partly correct. Would Epstein have kept complete flight manifests? Depends on the person flying.
DeleteI know of groups who meet regularly. Rule 1, turn your cell phone off and leave it at home. Rule 2, don't drive directly to the meeting. Three stops minimum, one is a known shelter who tells you whether you may advance.
Rule 3. Park a distance away, enter a business nearby and exit by the back door.
Rule 4, different vehicle for each meeting.
Kept me alive when doing under cover.
Give modern technology, they could fabricate videos and every piece of data they desire.
#1 aint got the correct picture, they should be shaking hands (secret handshake)....
ReplyDeleteDing, ding! Masonry (and satanism) FTW! There's all sorts of secret handshakes and codes that the secret combinations use to identify eachother. Of course, in the age of the internet, all that's available to the public if you care enough to look.
DeleteOne of the most damning photos I ever saw was a group of celebrities showing off their matching red shoes. (Which means their feet were red with the blood of the "hornless goat" i.e. human sacrifice.)
Not that anybody cares, but if the courts or various investigative agencies actually gave a damn, it wouldn't be hard AT ALL to uncover with modern investigative tools.
But they're all putting their efforts into covering it all up instead. I can't imagine why they'd do such a thing, of course.
John G.
Well, John G clearly knows nothing about the Masons except what his fellow drunk outcasts have dreamed up.
DeleteAmerican Party is the answer. Let Elon finish the job he started with DOGE
DeleteLets face it, the sex stuff is just the facia, the gingerbread, the icing on the cake that attracts the flies. Epstien's real business was espianage and nobody talks about that!
ReplyDeleteEverybody talks about it.
DeleteOh we're talking about it, we can't say what country he was spying for, well Tucker Carlson did, because we're not allowed to say anything bad about them lest we are attacked for being.. you know what.
DeleteGreatest allies my ass
JD
This has a little information to add to the Epstein saga.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.mintpressnews.com/blackmail-jeffrey-epstein-trump-mentor-reagan-era/260760/
Dave