The Turks now honor the ANZAC dead at Gallipoli with monuments, maintained cemeteries, and as I understand it, sovereign soil. Very unlike US liberals and Confederate monuments.
Bogle wrote decent folk songs, but he was and is Leftie that never stood the watch. When I listen to IRA songs with similar signature from men like Behan, or read the War Poets it gives a real feeling to a combat arms vet. Those that experienced the mud, blood and filth personally have respect that mere 'artistes' cannot match. Had a chance to ask Randy Travis about 'America will Always Stand'. Thought it would have been based on some primary source material. No, he just sat down and wrote it out of hand. Good tune, nice guy, but the reality was a bit disappointing. Bogle wrote this after watching an Anzac parade in 71. Again, good tune, poignant words, but in the end it was an anti-war song written for an anti-war/hippie/Lefty audience and it served his career quite well. Sorry Eric, but until you've had the joy of picking up a man with blown off legs or seen the joyful gleam in the eye of a 20 year old triple amp from an IED, stick to Flower Power
Wirecutter,thanks for allowing varied viewpoints on your blog. I appreciate it for one.The 6:59 post was to me,a non vet(show us your creds);but close ties and losses I have had over the years,my family,make me think this dickhead really doesn't know much,apart from what he's been fed.If he'd read any WW1,Gallipoli history he could pick only one fault in Bogle's song.That was Suvla bay. Aussies were not there,that was Brits,Canucks,maybe Indians. Great history reads are The Great War and Gallipoli;both by Les Carlyon. Recomend. Thanks again Mate, Rob.
Anonymouse! you don't know shit from clay. Get up with your anti Bogle crap. He openly stated after living in this great southern land that he had got it wrong.Big man to do that.He eventually came to understand that the marchers were honouring lost mates and their memory! And publicly said it. And do I need to say anymore.If you don't know the whole story of a man's musical journey,then STFU. He has made happy many and varied;I spoke to a Canadian vet in 2008 in Germany.He had nothing but praise for Eric Bogle,the composer and best rendition of his song. Have I said enough...I could go on,the man lives not 15 minutes away from me, here in Adelaide. Sth. Aust. And proud of it.
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If you don't cry after listening to that I don't want to know you. The lives wasted in the trenches WWI (and after).
ReplyDeleteRespect to all that served
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Damn!
ReplyDeleteThe Turks now honor the ANZAC dead at Gallipoli with monuments, maintained cemeteries, and as I understand it, sovereign soil. Very unlike US liberals and Confederate monuments.
ReplyDeleteTurks are men and warriors. Liberals are neither
DeleteAnother Eric Bogle song about WWI. Have two hankies for this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxkhBvO8_kM&list=RDDxkhBvO8_kM&start_radio=1
ReplyDeleteMust be dusty in here
ReplyDeleteBogle wrote decent folk songs, but he was and is Leftie that never stood the watch. When I listen to IRA songs with similar signature from men like Behan, or read the War Poets it gives a real feeling to a combat arms vet. Those that experienced the mud, blood and filth personally have respect that mere 'artistes' cannot match. Had a chance to ask Randy Travis about 'America will Always Stand'. Thought it would have been based on some primary source material. No, he just sat down and wrote it out of hand. Good tune, nice guy, but the reality was a bit disappointing. Bogle wrote this after watching an Anzac parade in 71. Again, good tune, poignant words, but in the end it was an anti-war song written for an anti-war/hippie/Lefty audience and it served his career quite well. Sorry Eric, but until you've had the joy of picking up a man with blown off legs or seen the joyful gleam in the eye of a 20 year old triple amp from an IED, stick to Flower Power
ReplyDeleteWell so much for a touching post about sacrifice on Veteran's/Armistice Day.
DeleteI'm a three war veteran. War is hell, and those of us that experienced it aren't touchy feely about it
DeleteOkaaaay.....
DeleteWirecutter,thanks for allowing varied viewpoints on your blog. I appreciate it for one.The 6:59 post was to me,a non vet(show us your creds);but close ties and losses I have had over the years,my family,make me think this dickhead really doesn't know much,apart from what he's been fed.If he'd read any WW1,Gallipoli history he could pick only one fault in Bogle's song.That was Suvla bay. Aussies were not there,that was Brits,Canucks,maybe Indians. Great history reads are The Great War and Gallipoli;both by Les Carlyon. Recomend. Thanks again Mate, Rob.
DeleteAnonymouse! you don't know shit from clay. Get up with your anti Bogle crap. He openly stated after living in this great southern land that he had got it wrong.Big man to do that.He eventually came to understand that the marchers were honouring lost mates and their memory! And publicly said it. And do I need to say anymore.If you don't know the whole story of a man's musical journey,then STFU. He has made happy many and varied;I spoke to a Canadian vet in 2008 in Germany.He had nothing but praise for Eric Bogle,the composer and best rendition of his song. Have I said enough...I could go on,the man lives not 15 minutes away from me, here in Adelaide. Sth. Aust. And proud of it.
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