Monday, August 20, 2012

NDAA in action

CHESTERFIELD, VA (WWBT) -
Below is the full text of the press release issued by the Rutherford Institute, which is defending former Chesterfield Marine Brandon Raub:

RUTHERFORD INSTITUTE DEFENDS MARINE ARRESTED, INCARCERATED IN PSYCH WARD & DETAINED INDEFINITELY FOR POSTING POLITICAL VIEWS, SONG LYRICS TO FACEBOOK

CHESTERFIELD, VA— The Rutherford Institute has come to the defense of a former Marine, 26-year-old Brandon Raub, who was arrested, detained indefinitely in a psych ward and forced to undergo psychological evaluations based solely on the controversial nature of lines from song lyrics, political messages and virtual card games which he posted to his private Facebook page. Although the FBI and Chesterfield County police have not charged Brandon Raub, a resident of Chesterfield County, Va., with committing any crime, they arrested Raub on Thursday, August 16, 2012, and transported him to John Randolph Medical Center, where he was held against his will due to alleged concerns that his Facebook (FB) posts were controversial and "terrorist in nature." In a hearing held at the hospital, government officials disregarded Raub's explanation that the Facebook posts were being interpreted out of context, sentencing him up to 30 days' further confinement in a VA psych ward. In coming to Raub's defense, Rutherford Institute attorneys are challenging Raub's arrest and forcible detention, as well as the government's overt Facebook surveillance and violation of Raub's First Amendment rights.

Actually, this is just a teaser because of copyrighting. You can find the rest of it HERE
Thanks to Matthaus on the cell for sending in the link.

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Well, if they NDAA'd him for his FB remarks, then me and a whole bunch of III bloggers are next. Damn, and I just passed my 1,000,000 hit mark - maybe they'll pass me by and go raid the New Black Panthers instead out of respect to me, huh?

31 comments:

Matthäus from the cell said...

As a recently retired FedGov intel officer, I can tell you that ANY and ALL social media platforms are being mined for data hits 24/7. NSA's got basement levels full of super computers that do nothing but search blogs, surf social media, parse all email (US and foreign) and even monitor phone/cell conversations....all searching for those "flags" or codeword phrases that The Masters have decided are terroristic.

But "not to worry, nothing to see here folks, move along. The Gubmint is here to protect you."

Bastards.

Glenn B said...

SHIT, WE ARE ALL IN TROUBLE IF THEY CAN AREST YOU FOR HAVING CONTROVERSDIAL WRTINGS THAT SEEM "TERRORIST IN NATURE" NOW THAT DHS CONSIDERS PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION TO BE TERRORISTS.

wirecutter said...

Glenn's pissed. That's the first time I ever heard him yell.

angrymike said...

Now that's fucked up.... So I wonder what he put on his page, that's just messed up bad...........

timbo said...

All I can say is - it has officially begun. Baton down the hatches boys.

The Steel Ibeam said...

Dude I am dying laughing at the Glenn is pissed comment. Bah wah ha ha!

Yeah we're fucked if thats the case. Between blogs and facebook and twatter, I mean twitter LOL we the III would be targeted I would assume due to our beliefs.
Israel
III

Stinkwilly said...

It's coming gentlemen. There's gonna be a confrontation with these jackbooted HOTDOGS soon, by people that are getting sick and tired of their goddamm heavy handed horse shit and a lot of blood is gonna spill.

Stu said...

Don't worry they will come after the "deranged" Vets first because they can keep them in the VA and in/on military bases under pretense they are in VA care.

Then the rest of you.

See y'all I got a VA appt tomorrow.

Craig Cavanaugh said...

He didn't put anything on his page that hasn't been said repeatedly across the Patriot blogosphere for years. We're all "next", unless we stand up to defend each other.

Brian in Florida said...

If they want to find out what code words are, just ask Toure from MSNBC. He has a list of "Code Words". as far as data mining goes, yea, since the intertubes went world wide, so no shocked face here. Besides, WE the people that support the Constitution, Prior service Patriots made the list of "Terrorists" Long ago.
If you are a member of any organization affiliated with the military (AM VETS, DMV. Legion, Elks, Masons and many more) then you are on the list. I prefer to be on the "Enemy;s list cause I consider them to be MY enemy, and an enemy to MY country.
God Bless, have a good day.

Toejam said...

Big Brother is watching.

1984 is just a little late gettin here.

America is sliding down a slippery slope where good is bad and bad is good.

Erinyes said...

Read the second comment below this story:

http://www.nbc12.com/story/19322455/chesterfield-police-statement-on-brandon-raub

Not having read Raub's FB posts, we have no way of knowing if there was a legitimate reason to Baker Act him. I would like to believe that the Rutherford Institute did review his posts before deciding his rights were violated. As for me, I learned a long time ago to be prudent and not post ANYTHING that could be construed as a death threat or a threat of harm against ANYONE. It's a strange time in which we live and our Fourth Amendment rights seem to be in peril.

Erinyes said...

More info here:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/20/outcry-after-military-veteran-detained-for-anti-government-facebook-posts/#ixzz249NWCeCu?test=latestnews

It sounds like he's guilty of stupidity and not much else, in what he posted. I'd like to know what was said to LE and the judge to make them think he needed thirty more days in the hole for a psych eval. However, if LE tried to take me away without arresting me or reading me my rights I'd resist, too.

Something tells me this case is going to go far in the news in coming weeks.

Oswald Bastable said...

Straight out of the commies's dissident managment handbook!

Stu said...

I got some fucking code words for them.

DUTY-HONOR-COUNTRY (Not just a catchy phrase, its a way of life)

Now I better go check my range cards.



Anonymous said...

Really fed up with big brother and the incarceration company.
We need to come up with a better, secure means of communication.

Stu said...

Bitch is tracers work both ways, so can't really use them to direct too much fire.

Erinyes said...

Craig Cavanaugh - I don't know what sites you read, but, with all due respect, what is coming out about what Raub was posting is extremely disturbing, and not anything I would post anywhere, and not what I read from the patriots and their blogs that I frequent.

Craig Cavanaugh said...

Erinyes, so you think it was okay to abduct (I don't say "arrest" because he was not charged with a "crime" other than resisting arrest or whatever) him simply for speaking his mind? What he said was no different than what was said in the Green Dragon Tavern and elsewhere in the colonies prior to 1776. If that is "disturbing", and you've not read similar elsewhere, then you haven't been around much. Free Speech is not a "crime". Raub's arrest by the "thought police" is very Orwellian. I have said similar things, over many years now. But I have harmed not a soul. Oh, and there's more than one way to execute a revolution as Raub spoke of. Doesn't have to involve combat and death...

Stu said...

From what I read today (albeit one source) the posts on the page where one thing, however the damning posts used where from a private multiple user chat that was "somehow" monitored by the .gov.

We don't really know all of the details and on the surface and what is known at least from the FB page wasn't any worse than some of the stuff we see everyday online, except from the left directed toward us.

Stu said...

Here is a link I mentioned earlier
Washington Times

http://times247.com/articles/46raub-attorney-petitions-court-claiming-illegal-detention8

Erinyes said...

Mr. Cavanaugh -

For me, the jury is still out on the Raub case. I do not presume to know all that he did. With the Secret Service involved, for all ANYONE not privy to the entire facts, he may have threatened the president in an e-mail in a fit of pique or a drunken stupor. I don't know Raub and I damn sure don't trust anyone I don't know and a lot of people I DO know, including immediate family members. So I damn sure am not prepared to rally to his support and state with impunity that he is innocent.

Raub is also in Virginia, which has lessened the restraints on LE to Baker Act someone since the Virginia Tech killings.

Having said all of that, the blogs I frequent don't have commenters stating that the government sacrifices babies, or that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job. I don't think the original patriots felt that the British were engaging in human sacrifices, do you?

Having said all of that, I do not think it is acceptable to violate ANYONE'S rights, Fourth Amendment or otherwise. But I also know for a fact, as should you, that there are those among us that need to be scrutinized because they have a screw loose.

The First Amendment doesn't give everyone the right to say anything anytime. Just as the Second Amendment doesn't give you the right to shoot anywhere, anytime. Rights come with responsibilities.

By the way, have you read EVERYTHING Raub wrote? And are you privy to EVERY communication he has sent over the internet?

Last, this case DEFINITELY bears VERY CLOSE scrutiny and monitoring so I am glad the Rutherford Institute has agreed to defend him and IF in fact, his Fourth Amendment rights have been violated I will be the first to rally to his side.

Erinyes said...

AND I stand corrected as of this evening.

wirecutter said...

And here folks, we have a rare thing - a man that publicly comes out and says that he stands corrected when he didn't need to.
My readers fucking rock.

Craig Cavanaugh said...

Erinyes, I commend you for being man enough to admit you were wrong. It takes courage to do so. Kudos my friend, that really is a rare thing these days, and I have the utmost respect for you for doing so. I'll buy you a beer any day!

wirecutter said...

But... but... but what about me?
I'm always admitting I fucked up but nobody ever offers to buy me a beer.....

Stu said...

Ken,

I will not only buy ya beer, hell I will feed ya a steak dinner fresh from my grill, and provide all the beer, just c'mon over.

Stu

Stu said...

Erineyes.....Thumbs up!

Craig Cavanaugh said...

Ken It goes without sayin' that I'd buy you a beer anytime : )

wirecutter said...

Thanks guys, but I don't drink.
:-)
Maybe a sody pop and a bacon sandwich?

Erinyes said...

Mr. Cavanaugh and Wirecutter -

Thanks! Make mine a non-alcoholic and you got a deal!

WC - I DO have to admit I'm wrong because we are all in this together. I do not agree with a lot of what Raub believes BUT when any of our rights are violated, and a veteran's to boot, we ALL need to stand behind that person, now more than ever. A famous teacher, Rabbi Hillel, once said "If I am not for myself, who will be for me? But if I am only for myself, what am I? And if not now, when?"

That's always been one of my favorite quotes.