Damn Wirecutter, it feels like you give me a school'in on a regular basis these days. I had NO idea a 22 short or LR had that kind of punch at those distances, how careless of me (in the past). Glad to know this, thanks for the heads up, to everyone.
Good to see somebody else doing this. We've been shooting rifles at a measured 438 yards in a local sandpit. It takes a lot of adjustment, but isn't all that hard to hit a 12" square steel plate.
FYI, Federal bulk pack shoots about a six foot "pattern" at this distance, CCI Stingers about half that, and Eley match (which takes more drop adjustment due to lower velocity) about half that again.
Very impressive and informational. It also gives one pause to remember why it is so important to know what is behind what you are shooting at. 450 yards is a quarter of a mile and there is still plenty sufficient energy for that.22 to go clean through a 1/2 inch pine board!
Hey, you don't think a 22 ain't lethal, go ask any jacklighter. I bet there's been more deer killed by poachers using a 22 than Grandpa's trusty 30-30.
It's nice to see people demonstrating what rounds CAN do rather than just talk about it.
And while it's possible to be killed by a .22 round even at such distances one must never forget that the purpose of defensive gun fire is not to kill...not to inflict a mortal wound. The purpose of defensive gun fire is to make the person targeted cease doing whatever it is they are doing that causes them to pose a threat to you.
Shooting a person with a .22 might cause that person to die....3 days later, but in the interim after you shoot them they may take the gun from your hands, beat you to death with it then stuff it up your ass.
So the moral of the story is be careful with ANY firearm as ALL of them have the potential to kill. BUT....the wisdom of using the biggest round you can whenever possible remains the proper methodology.
I saw this video and others by him last summer when looking at buying a 10-22. Bought the carbine in December & bought two black dog 25 rnd clips in early Jan before the Shtf. These guys tell it like it is... kinda like Wirecutter. Getting ready to add a scope to it. What would you guys suggest?
A 22LR in your pocket is better than a 45ACP at home in your safe!
ReplyDeleteDamn Wirecutter, it feels like you give me a school'in on a regular basis these days. I had NO idea a 22 short or LR had that kind of punch at those distances, how careless of me (in the past). Glad to know this, thanks for the heads up, to everyone.
ReplyDeleteGood to see somebody else doing this. We've been shooting rifles at a measured 438 yards in a local sandpit. It takes a lot of adjustment, but isn't all that hard to hit a 12" square steel plate.
ReplyDeleteFYI, Federal bulk pack shoots about a six foot "pattern" at this distance, CCI Stingers about half that, and Eley match (which takes more drop adjustment due to lower velocity) about half that again.
HTH, John Bernard Books
Shit, don't show that to the aresehat politicians because the next thing you know the possession of the .22LR round will be criminalized.
ReplyDeleteVery impressive and informational. It also gives one pause to remember why it is so important to know what is behind what you are shooting at.
ReplyDelete450 yards is a quarter of a mile and there is still plenty sufficient energy for that.22 to go clean through a 1/2 inch pine board!
I have a quiet little thing that will work very well when it comes time to hunt weasels. .22 is not a joke, least not when it turns lights out.
ReplyDeleteHey, you don't think a 22 ain't lethal, go ask any jacklighter.
ReplyDeleteI bet there's been more deer killed by poachers using a 22 than Grandpa's trusty 30-30.
It's nice to see people demonstrating what rounds CAN do rather than just talk about it.
ReplyDeleteAnd while it's possible to be killed by a .22 round even at such
distances one must never forget that the purpose of defensive gun fire is not to kill...not to inflict a mortal wound. The purpose of defensive gun fire is to make the person targeted cease doing whatever it is they are doing that causes them to pose a threat to you.
Shooting a person with a .22 might cause that person to die....3 days later, but in the interim after you shoot them they may take the gun from your hands, beat you to death with it then stuff it up your ass.
So the moral of the story is be careful with ANY firearm as ALL of them have the potential to kill. BUT....the wisdom of using the biggest round you can whenever possible remains the proper methodology.
"What happened to Johnson?" -srgnt
ReplyDelete"I don't know Sarge, he just fell down" -prvt
"Sarge? Sarge? You OK" -Prvt
"Gurgle" -srgnt
I use .22LR and .22 shorts for all my rabbit and small game kills. They are quiet and cheap as hell (for now).
ReplyDeleteExcept for the birds, that is. For them I use .177
My aim has very much improved over the last year.
I saw this video and others by him last summer when looking at buying a 10-22. Bought the carbine in December & bought two black dog 25 rnd clips in early Jan before the Shtf. These guys tell it like it is... kinda like Wirecutter. Getting ready to add a scope to it. What would you guys suggest?
ReplyDeleteIf you want to really learn to shoot it well at distance and in the wind, get a fixed power mil/mil scope and shoot every day.
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