The injured man was transported to the hospital for treatment. He is listed in critical but stable condition.
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So there's a violent crowd who attacks a man while plainly screaming "Kill him!" in the video who allegedly (key word there) brandished a gun. They knocked him down and he cranks off 4 rounds, hitting one. Then they arrest the guy who shot the protester and everybody with him. I'll bet good money that if the man did brandish a firearm it was because he was being or under threat of being attacked.
What's really disgusting is the governor's statement in the article about the incident. Apparently it's okay to riot and destroy property but not okay to shoot in self defense.
Only a matter of time until those that lean right will reach their limit. This is only the beginning until local and state governments grab their nutsack and do their jobs.
ReplyDeleteThe video clearly shows that he was attacked he tried to leave the area and they chased him down and attacked him again this time takeing him to the ground and was being beat by three individuals this is a classic case of self-defense
ReplyDeleteNM's never had a governor worth a shit that I can remember..
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It's a tough call. A very old principle of law forbids placing yourself in danger, then claiming self defense when the inevitable happens. Armed people have a greater obligation under law to avoid conflict. The exception would be when acting in militia or posse. You cannot self-declare either status.
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I kinda get where youre coming from,,but were I on the jury, it wouldnt be a tough call for me,, Had he Not defended himself,, his future was very uncertain,, except for an undetermined amount of pain,,They were at Least gonna pound the guy..
DeleteAnd they were Pursuing him,,after he disengaged,,Looks self defense to me,,
Ok, so everyone is armed, therefore everyone has a greater obligation to avoid conflict. The law is deficient for if to remove the firearm is to lessen the obligation. And the law is discriminatory for it places the onus on him who is exercises his right.
DeleteThe first article I read on this yesterday, on Fox News, started with the militia getting arrested and stated that one person was shot. It heavily implied the militia showed up and shot one person before peacefully surrendering to the cops, which is a flat-out lie. There was no description or indication that the individual doing the shooting was exercising self-defense. It implied that the shooter was part of the militia, which has yet to be actually confirmed. Fox News? Holy shiite.
ReplyDeleteOn a separate note, from the video, it was definitely self-defense. Not that it will help him. It will be a political prosecution and he'll be bankrupted even if found not guilty. Also, admirable that he only fired 4 shots. He stopped shooting as soon as the threat to his life ceased. Just like the concealed carry classes taught. The rioters were lucky he didn't do several mag dumps into the crowd.
The next guy (after seeing what good 'restraint' did this guy; may very well decide "Might as well be tried as a lion as for a lamb".
DeleteAfter that, it'll be a contest for the highest body count.
After 1, the rest are fee
DeleteThis is the fracture that will divide America.
ReplyDeleteIts one reason I left NY...
It boils down to the concept enshrined in things like the 2nd Amendment, stand-your-ground laws, welfare and socialized medicine.
It happens to line up on red/blue divides, but thats the symptom, not the problem:
The problem is some people want to be responsible for themselves (and accept all that that entails), and some people do not want to bear that burden. Many today like the idea, but don't want to do the work - and that goes for both sides!
But there it is.
"Give me Liberty or give me death!"
"Ask not what your Country can do for you..."
Many men and women have understood the problem, alas history repeats.
Buckle up boys, this is spicy time.
The account I read, I think it was over on War on Guns, said that he was in retreat but the mob chased him. Supposedly he tried pepper spray first, but once they got him on the ground he drew his weapon. At the first of the video, someone did swing at/hit him with a skateboard, that is when he started his retreat.
ReplyDeleteSaw a still capture of one of his attackers swinging a knife at him.
ReplyDeleteI believe it was a garrote, not a knife.
DeleteA knife. Clearly seen in stills.
DeleteBad move on the dude's part. Stay away, be alone, load a scoped Barrett then shoot and scoot.
ReplyDeleteStop showing up at the battlefield of your enemies choice.
ReplyDeleteThis is going to go Hot, and when it does there goes one soldier for our side that will be out of the fight, rotting in a prison cell.
I have to say.....this time I'm on the side of the shooter....what's that?....oh, yeah, right.....I guess I'm always on the side of the shooter in situations like this....contrary to what the leftists want, I do believe my own eyes....
ReplyDeleteConsider this: Protesters now know it is no longer safe to attack people, burn and loot. Takes all the fun out of it.
ReplyDeleteVideo on gunfreezone.net. The guy defending himself was in a three-on-one beatdown (he being the beatee) and one of the attackers hit him with a skateboard. Guy drew and fired on the fellow attacking with the skateboard. Video here: https://gunfreezone.net/setting-a-narrative-for-a-lynching-part-2-a-closer-video-of-the-shooting/
ReplyDeleteAnother video snippet, 4 seconds in length, taken from the video shows clearly that the guy who got shot had a knife in his hand.
ReplyDeletehttps://files.catbox.moe/ttukem.mp4
Clear case of self defense.
Looks like Auntie Fa had it coming...
ReplyDeletehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eat5EuwUcAIMk0D?format=jpg&name=small
With the current mindset of judges, DAs, public and others it is hard to get a fair shake in the courts.
ReplyDeleteRecall the case of Michael Strickland up in Portland or search it, about the same situation.
Covering pantifa and several advanced with a few decent sized "signs". As he was withdrawing, they kept advancing and he drew his gun which did not stop them, (he eventually got out, I think a few lesser evil folks helped him) but never fired it. Sentenced to 40 days in jail, 240 hours of community service, banned from taking video of people or events for at least 2017 (a yr or so then), and also banned from owning guns.
And THAT is why so many do not get involved or seem eager to aggressively defend our lifestyle and country. It is even this much of a risk to challenge some gun laws as you have to have standing and the risk is hard to justify the reward, at least that short term one.
His case immediately came to mind when I read the first reports of this one. A gang were about to beat him but were "unarmed" so the jury decided he wasn't really threatened and he got the shaft. Bullshit through and through.
DeleteMy .02¢ is piss poor planning produced piss poor results. Where was tactical awareness, I saw people milling around through them, comms not apparent, overwatch was either not used or was sleeping on watch. Going into a shit show unprepared, unorganized and uncommitted to the mission is worse than staying home, one of the guys got arrested and gives another bullshit leftist talking point.
ReplyDeleteIf it's worth doing it's worth doing right.
Head down,eyes open,moving forward...
JD
I suggest you listen to this podcast by Michael Bane. He is very explicit about telling you just exactly what it means now to exercise your right to defend yourself via firearm. He is very good.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.michaelbane.tv/someone-is-always-watching/45280/
Pigpen51
Never bring a skateboard to a gun fight!
ReplyDeleteUPDATE
ReplyDeleteCharges directly related to shooting dropped
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-new-mexico-protest/shooting-charge-dropped-against-suspected-new-mexico-shooter-idUSKBN23P08W
Whoever wrote that Reuters article is just a crappy writer.. at best,. It says
ReplyDeleteVideos show Baca, a counterprotester at a demonstration to remove a conquistador statue, tussling with demonstrators before pulling out a handgun and shooting several times.
If I hadnt seen the video I would believe the events were
Baca approaches and wrestles people who are tearing down a statue,then just starts shooting,,
I would never get from that article that Baca had disengaged, was moving away and was attacked , thrown to the ground by several people,, and finally decided if he was gonna be able to walk away at all,, he was Gonna hafta shoot someone..
Article also says shooting charges may yet be filed,
Need to drop all charges and give the guy a medal..