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Monday, June 01, 2020

One report says one thing, another says something else

An independent autopsy ordered by George Floyd's family found his death was a "homicide caused by asphyxia due to neck and back compression that led to a lack of blood flow to the brain," according to early findings from the examination released Monday.

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The criminal complaint said the official examination of Floyd's body by the medical examiner is still ongoing, but prosecutors provided some information about this death. This is separate from the independent autopsy requested by Floyd's family.

The medical examiner's initial findings revealed no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation, according to the complaint. Floyd had underlying health conditions including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease, the complaint said.
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26 comments:

  1. Was the first autopsy from the ME in Brunswick GA? They have a history of that type of autopsy.

    Too many places with corrupt officials.

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  2. If I hire a medical examiner he better get the results I am paying for.

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  3. If a paid practioner arrived at the same conclusion as the Coroner's office, it would lessen the families ability to sue.

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  4. Sure, putting 180-200lb on someone's neck for 5-10 minutes won't hurt them at all!

    I've heard Epstein killed himself, too.

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  5. If the Thug hadn’t been trying to pass a fake 20 his ghetto ass would still be collecting.
    You can’t teach a rabid animal shit.

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    1. Oh, give me a break here. He may have gotten that counterfeit bill from another business as change. Can you tell what's counterfeit every time? Most people can't, that's why a lot of businesses hit them with that pen.

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    2. The victims in cases of counterfeit money are the people who get stuck with the bad bill. Is it ever the Fed? No, they fuck the doop who got it as change.

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    3. You don't REALLY believe that, do you?

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    4. A few years ago the cashier at a grocery store identified a counterfeit 5 that I gave her. I got it from a cop at a swap meet at our gun range earlier in the day.

      ainglestack

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    5. Anonymous is the same thing as coward is it not?
      What a charming individual, I'll be your boyfriend's feet stink.

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  6. If nothing else happened, he would have died in 9 minutes just standing in one place, or walking along would have just collapsed. Mmmkay

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    1. The point is that when that fucking dirty psychotic, sadist cop put his knee on the neck, he murdered George Floyd regardless of what other conditions may have beset Mr. Floyd. That cop and the three accomplices need 1. the death penalty for the Knee cop and 2. life in prison for the other three, which is also a death penalty for dirty cops.

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  7. Some say he ain't daid at all. Lets not eat each other.

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  8. Ever since the video shot from across the street, behind the cops, showing the three of them holding Floyd down it's been apparent that the one on his neck didn't kill him. It was the one in the middle kneeling on his back. He's putting pressure on his lower ribcage with his knees. In that position it's impossible to inhale.
    I know because I was once nearly killed like that.

    singlestack

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  9. He honestly may not have known it was counterfeit. Say you sell a gun or lawn mower. The guy hands you a stack of bills with these mixed into it.
    https://www.osmint.com/store/p646/movie-prop-real-looking-money-sets.html
    Are you going to catch those? Or are you going to do a quick count and stick the bills in your billfold? Then you give one to the quickie mart girl without looking at anything but the number. Oops, you just passed counterfeit money.
    I don't know the the man was a criminal or a victim of circumstance. But I do know there is no reason for a cop to keep his knee on the neck/head of a handcuffed man laying on his stomach. This is the United States, not some Middle Eastern Muslim hellhole. If we are not better than them, what is the point?

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  10. According to the Hennepin County Medical Examiner's final report on Floyd, he had some 'significant conditions' when he died: Arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease;
    fentanyl intoxication; recent methamphetamine use.

    So he had heart disease, high blood pressure, hardening of the arteries, high on opiates at the time and a recent meth user. His address of record is in a first ring suburb of Minneapolis, a fair distance from where the incident took place, which is definitely a part of Mpls you'd head to if you were looking for a dealer.

    The knee on the neck thing was seriously bad judgment and in the end, not much else will probably matter. Report is here: https://bit.ly/2U06MIN

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  11. 5 less low lifes on the streets.cops, thugs, security guards, no matter. All worthless pos lowlifes. Honesty do not see the issue here. As a plus, Dems are destroying their own nests, how sweet is that?

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  12. There is a short (~20 seconds) security video from a nearby business that shows a rather big black man in handcuffs being led out of the left rear door of a police car and then being led a short ways across a sidewalk to what appears to be a wall of a building, whereupon he either slumps down or his knees give out and his back slides down the wall and he then is sitting on the ground. I would assume that was before he wound up in a totally different position lying flat on the ground per the ~8 minute phone video that the world has seen millions of times.

    Has anyone else seen the short security video and commented on their take of what they saw?

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    1. There now multiple videos in addition to the original:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDd5GlrgvsE

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyUtGpSe_hQ

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lZyCn-kh94

      Not having had time to watch them all I will refrain from commenting.

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  13. It's not either/or.

    The cops screwed up big time, not only Derek Chauvin (apparently a shitbag with a long record of shitbaggery under color of authority) but also the other three who failed to stop him. But it was like the fucking Village People, they had a white cop, a Hispanic cop, a black cop, and an Asian cop. Can't say it was all eeebil whitey at fault.

    As to Saint George, he had coronary artery disease and high blood pressure (very common in general, and especially among blacks). Not the substrate to be doing drugs, or be out fighting cops. He was also a shitbag with a history of shitbaggery. That he is no longer in this world is not a loss in and of itself.

    But. I feel sympathy for the many people who have been harmed by the resultant lawlessness. I'm all out of sympathy for active shitbag cops, other passive shitbag cops who look the other way, and really out of sympathy for idiot black criminals, and black rioters. But I really despise the white "anarchists" and the Good Whites who have swallowed the muh raycissum propaganda whole. (And we will not mention the people who created and have sold the muh raycissum, lest we commit a Hate Crime.)

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  14. I believe the family hired the same "expert" as Michael Brown's family.

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  15. So what we have here is a mexican stand off
    Side representing the cop and city autopsy says George Floyd was walking, talking health disaster, basically a dead man, he just didn't know it yet.
    Side representing the family of the read man says different, no outstanding health issues at that time that contributed to his death, cops killed Mr Floyd basically with depraved indifference and in cold blood.
    Decisions,decision, hmmmmmm
    Dirty cops protected by a corrupt department in a liberal city run by lefty city officials in a blue state with a virtue signaling governor, whose daughter was caught tweeting helpful information to the rioters.
    I think you know what side I believe
    JD

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  16. What I would like to know is if the Minneapolis cops are trained to use a restraint procedure that includes pinning down a perp using the knee. I seem to recall reading there is a procedure for that. Years ago in San Diego there was a rash of police shootings of seemingly non-threatening rule violators, to the point where there was a cartoon in the local paper of two cops with guns drawn standing over a dead Charlie Brown with his bat laying next to him. Invariably, when the shooting "investigation" was completed the cops concluded that the shooter cops were following department procedures and that was the end of that. Nobody ever questioned the procedures. So the question I have is were the cops trained to do this? I agree nobody in their right mind would ignore the pleas coming from the guy and continue to hold them down for 8 minutes, but to understand what happened we need to understand how these cops are being trained. I've long held that American policing practices stink and we need to begin with understanding how cops are being trained and go from there. Bad training is going to produce bad cops.

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    1. Cops training usually goes like this, there is we and you. We do whatever we want to you then get a pass because it's more important that we go home safe than you.
      JD

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