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What is a useable defense against these lasers? I can't see wearing a welding helmet in the dark, and still being able to shoot someone. Lethal force will be applied as needed, blinding is a serious assault whether they are shining at cops, drivers or home owners they are close to forfeiting their safety. Pretty sure if they get as close as that women let them there isn't a lot of non lethal options, but 12gauge translates into most languages including stank hippie.
Good question and I don't know the answer. Did a quick search and found this that looked promising. Don't know what they cost, but others were in the ~$450 price range.
A single LASER EyePro can't protect against all wavelengths, so first you need to decide what threat you are likely to face. Here is a chart (towards the middle of the second page) that relates color roughly to wavelength:
The green laser pointers are 532nm wavelength. However, the majority of the devices first produce 1064nm (infrared) which then goes through a "KTP" crystal which doubles the frequency, yielding green light. In properly made green laser pointers, there is an IR-cut filter to prevent output of residual IR, but many Chinese-made (and other cheaply made) devices do a poor job of cutting out the IR. So it'd be prudent to buy goggles that block both green and IR.
Now unfortunately, our eyes are most sensitive to green wavelengths. The broader the spectrum of frequency/wavelength-blockage, the less light gets through, the less you can see. If you're operating in low (visible) light, then "good" goggles are a significant vision disadvantage. I'm seeing 10% to 40% "visible light transmission" on the specs for various "laser goggles" on Amazon. For those who think like photographers, 40% is a little more than one f-stop, and at 10% you're over 3 stops down. That's a LOT of light cut. The net effect might be that since you've protected your eyes from the expected laser frequencies, at night you can't see the guy in black who's running up to throw a brick at your goggled head.
i just briefly googled "disability rating for blindness" i didn't read the whole thing. But different categories of blindness (partial blindness) are considered for different disability ratings.
TL:dr? if someone is shining a laser at your eyes, i think that should be reasonable "aggravated assault" that would justify some form of deadly force protection? John Corriea want to give his opinion?
Google (or Duckduckgo) Laser protection glasses (or goggles). Circa $40 on eBay. As for rioters - horse manure or such in solution. Use hose or pressure washer to spray the fuckers.
NM --- Lethal force justified to protect yourself or others - from great bodily harm..... is minimum required.. as long as you or the one you are protecting were not the instigator of confrontation or committing a crime...
f all that. somebody's shining a laser trying to blind me? they will get a mag dump. reload. repeat. 32 chances to remedy the problem.
blindness would end my career, and my ability to provide for my family.I would lose my home, family would be out on the streets. I value my sight as much as life itself. threatening it risks an equal response.
Up here in the Great White North, a decade or two ago, the local popo/tax collectors instigated photo radar, at night even, (which kinda gave away their game, but that's another story). Some enterprising dude was selling license plate "covers" with welding helmet tech, that blanked out the plate when the flash went. It went away after next election, but the tech might still be applicable here.
Anyway, one needs to "see" the location of the enemy, in order to return fire...
I carry a 1911 in my vehicle. Will be quite ready for them.
ReplyDeleteWhat is a useable defense against these lasers? I can't see wearing a welding helmet in the dark, and still being able to shoot someone.
ReplyDeleteLethal force will be applied as needed, blinding is a serious assault whether they are shining at cops, drivers or home owners they are close to forfeiting their safety.
Pretty sure if they get as close as that women let them there isn't a lot of non lethal options, but 12gauge translates into most languages including stank hippie.
> What is a useable defense against these lasers?
DeleteGood question and I don't know the answer. Did a quick search and found this that looked promising. Don't know what they cost, but others were in the ~$450 price range.
https://perriquest.com/laser-defense-eyewear/laser-eye-protection-for-sale/
A single LASER EyePro can't protect against all wavelengths, so first you need to decide what threat you are likely to face. Here is a chart (towards the middle of the second page) that relates color roughly to wavelength:
Deletehttps://www.revisionmilitary.com/en/amfile/file/download/file_id/608/product_id/1367/
These protect against three wavelengths and are reasonably priced, plus the offer ballistic eye protection as well:
https://www.revisionmilitary.com/en/eyewear/spectacles/stingerhawk-eyewear-ft-2-laser-protective-basic-kit
Matt
The green laser pointers are 532nm wavelength. However, the majority of the devices first produce 1064nm (infrared) which then goes through a "KTP" crystal which doubles the frequency, yielding green light. In properly made green laser pointers, there is an IR-cut filter to prevent output of residual IR, but many Chinese-made (and other cheaply made) devices do a poor job of cutting out the IR. So it'd be prudent to buy goggles that block both green and IR.
DeleteNow unfortunately, our eyes are most sensitive to green wavelengths. The broader the spectrum of frequency/wavelength-blockage, the less light gets through, the less you can see. If you're operating in low (visible) light, then "good" goggles are a significant vision disadvantage. I'm seeing 10% to 40% "visible light transmission" on the specs for various "laser goggles" on Amazon. For those who think like photographers, 40% is a little more than one f-stop, and at 10% you're over 3 stops down. That's a LOT of light cut. The net effect might be that since you've protected your eyes from the expected laser frequencies, at night you can't see the guy in black who's running up to throw a brick at your goggled head.
Mike_C,
DeleteGiven the points you've brought up, do you have any suggestions for dealing with this threat?
Matt
A hand held mirror might be a fun option, though I can't say I know for sure that it would work
ReplyDeleteMirroed sunglasses?
Deletehttps://gunfreezone.net/advice-about-laser-eyewear/
ReplyDeletehttps://gunfreezone.net/get-yourselves-laser-safety-glasses-and-a-gun/
i just briefly googled "disability rating for blindness" i didn't read the whole thing. But different categories of blindness (partial blindness) are considered for different disability ratings.
ReplyDeleteTL:dr? if someone is shining a laser at your eyes, i think that should be reasonable "aggravated assault" that would justify some form of deadly force protection? John Corriea want to give his opinion?
Google (or Duckduckgo) Laser protection glasses (or goggles).
ReplyDeleteCirca $40 on eBay.
As for rioters - horse manure or such in solution. Use hose or pressure washer to spray the fuckers.
NM --- Lethal force justified to protect yourself or others - from great bodily harm..... is minimum required.. as long as you or the one you are protecting were not the instigator of confrontation or committing a crime...
ReplyDeleteLaser protection? I hear a 12 gauge works!
ReplyDeletef all that. somebody's shining a laser trying to blind me? they will get a mag dump. reload. repeat.
ReplyDelete32 chances to remedy the problem.
blindness would end my career, and my ability to provide for my family.I would lose my home, family would be out on the streets. I value my sight as much as life itself. threatening it risks an equal response.
Up here in the Great White North, a decade or two ago, the local popo/tax collectors instigated photo radar, at night even, (which kinda gave away their game, but that's another story). Some enterprising dude was selling license plate "covers" with welding helmet tech, that blanked out the plate when the flash went. It went away after next election, but the tech might still be applicable here.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, one needs to "see" the location of the enemy, in order to return fire...