California AG Becerra sues U.S. regulator in effort to crack down on ‘ghost guns’
Backed by the fathers of two slain children, California’s attorney general sued the Trump administration on Tuesday in an effort to crack down on “ghost guns” that can be built from parts and make it difficult to track or regulate owners.
The U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives doesn’t consider the do-it-yourself kits to be firearms, so buyers don’t have to undergo the usual background checks and in most states the guns are not required to have serial numbers.
A B.S. statement about assemble-your-own weapons like an AR15... While the upper and lower unit usually do not have serial numbers, the trigger housing does, since the weapon cannot be used without it.. You cannot buy the housing 'legally' without going through an FFL.
They are required to have a serial number and registration in California and have had to for a couple years. If you build an 80 percenter in California you need to contact the state and they run you thru the normal back ground check and then issue a serial number that needs to be engraved on the gun. Sooo, why's he suing the Feds?
The reason he is suing the feds is, when commies come up with a really good idea how they can control a specific group of people they do everything to FORCE everyone else to live under their control under that same idea. Wait till Kameltoe wins the Presidency. She's going to round up every Trump supporter and cram us in FEMA camps or maybe just shoot us. Don't believe it. Her quote is easy to google. She hates non-communists. She will be one of the first who will need to have her brain drained out of her dicksucking skull.
Ummmm... With Glocks and AR's, the serial number is on the frame. You can put whatever trigger group you want in them. You are thinking about the new line of Sig Sauer pistols that have the serialized trigger group. Nice try, though...
They may regret filing this suit at all. BARF has already lost a couple of suits about AR-15s because neither the upper or lower, alone or together, meets their own written-law definition of a "firearm reciever" which is what they regulate. Federal law, as far as I can remember, allows individuals the right to manufacture a firearm for personal use, without a requirement for serialization. Class III stuff, suppressors, full-auto guns, etc. require an application, background check, and fees BEFORE you begin manufacture. There are $1,000 CAD-CAM machines which will turn a block of billet aluminum (0% completed) into a finished lower in about an hour. As for other guns, the WWII STEN 9mm machine gun (full-auto only) got down to a per unit cost to make of $1.25, or about $20.00 in current money. Plans for these were dropped over Occupied Europe with a box of ammo, as tgey could be hand-made from exhaust pipe, .375" hydraulic pipe for the barrel, and a re-wound bedspring to make it work. Ammo, and particularly primers, may become a somewhat limiting factor, at least until the irregular imports start coming in. John in Indy
A B.S. statement about assemble-your-own weapons like an AR15... While the upper and lower unit usually do not have serial numbers, the trigger housing does, since the weapon cannot be used without it.. You cannot buy the housing 'legally' without going through an FFL.
ReplyDeleteWell you can if you live in a free state...
DeleteThey are required to have a serial number and registration in California and have had to for a couple years. If you build an 80 percenter in California you need to contact the state and they run you thru the normal back ground check and then issue a serial number that needs to be engraved on the gun.
ReplyDeleteSooo, why's he suing the Feds?
Because he's an idiot?
DeleteThe reason he is suing the feds is, when commies come up with a really good idea how they can control a specific group of people they do everything to FORCE everyone else to live under their control under that same idea. Wait till Kameltoe wins the Presidency. She's going to round up every Trump supporter and cram us in FEMA camps or maybe just shoot us. Don't believe it. Her quote is easy to google. She hates non-communists. She will be one of the first who will need to have her brain drained out of her dicksucking skull.
DeleteHe's suing to kill time, be a pain in the ass to Trump and make political noise. The cholo from Yolo is worthless otherwise.
ReplyDeleteLike yet another law will stop criminals (who, by definition, ignore laws) from getting their hands on an 80 percent.
ReplyDeleteIf I lived in Mexico, I'd be planning my newest business venture...
Ummmm... With Glocks and AR's, the serial number is on the frame. You can put whatever trigger group you want in them. You are thinking about the new line of Sig Sauer pistols that have the serialized trigger group. Nice try, though...
ReplyDeleteThey may regret filing this suit at all. BARF has already lost a couple of suits about AR-15s because neither the upper or lower, alone or together, meets their own written-law definition of a "firearm reciever" which is what they regulate.
ReplyDeleteFederal law, as far as I can remember, allows individuals the right to manufacture a firearm for personal use, without a requirement for serialization.
Class III stuff, suppressors, full-auto guns, etc. require an application, background check, and fees BEFORE you begin manufacture.
There are $1,000 CAD-CAM machines which will turn a block of billet aluminum (0% completed) into a finished lower in about an hour.
As for other guns, the WWII STEN 9mm machine gun (full-auto only) got down to a per unit cost to make of $1.25, or about $20.00 in current money. Plans for these were dropped over Occupied Europe with a box of ammo, as tgey could be hand-made from exhaust pipe, .375" hydraulic pipe for the barrel, and a re-wound bedspring to make it work.
Ammo, and particularly primers, may become a somewhat limiting factor, at least until the irregular imports start coming in.
John in Indy