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Tuesday, May 11, 2021

20% of electric vehicle owners in California replaced their cars with gas ones

In roughly three minutes, you can fill the gas tank of a Ford Mustang and have enough range to go about 300 miles with its V8 engine. 

But for the electric Mustang Mach-E, an hour plugged into a household outlet gave Bloomberg automotive analyst Kevin Tynan just three miles of range.
-Chuck

9 comments:

  1. A "Household outlet" means 110VAC at 12A max or about 1.32KW which is stupidly slow to charge, especially if you have a not-especially efficient car like the Mach-E. It is rated at .33KW-hr/mile so 4 miles per hour of charging is about right. Up that link to a dryer-type outlet (208V @ 24A) and now you are close to 5KW, but you still have to charge the car overnight.

    A standard 10Gpm gas pump is 20MW of equivalent energy, which dwarfs even Tesla Superchargers.

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  2. Just get a trailer hitch and pull a diesel generator around.

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  3. I did a blog post of what it would take for me to even CONSIDER an EV as a vehicle choice. Obviously, no such thing exists.

    https://75mpop.blogspot.com/2021/04/this-is-what-it-will-take.html

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  4. Cut those EV milage ranges in half if you live in a minor hilly area....Mountains...err NO way hoser....

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  5. Electric vehicles for general use will never be viable. Unless we electrify the roads.

    With an overhead electrical hookup that works at high speeds, EV's become an attractive and economical option:
    1. Lower operation costs (coal is MUCH cheaper per kwh than gas, even with 30% transmission overhead.
    2. Smaller batteries (only need 20-30 miles, as the freeway part of the trip charges the car. $700 for a new set of batteries instead of $7,000, this makes EV's cheaper than gas cars.)
    3. cheaper cars (an EV isn't as complicated or expensive as a gas motor)
    4. lower TCO (motors last indefinitely, don't need oiled, don't need fluid, etc)
    5. cold climate concerns vanish (dumping 2 kw on a heater isn't a problem if you're plugged into the grid)

    We wouldn't even need to electrify ALL the roads, just the major highways.

    This could be done piecemeal:
    1. Convince a major metropolitan area's transport authority to convert their buses to "trolleys" with an overhead rail system that works at high speeds.
    2. Convince them to rent out access to it to private citizens.
    3. Proliferation then generates the demand needed to justify electrifying the freeway over to hook up to the NEXT major metropolitan area. (Every punk ass kid with a car with a dead engine will be trying to convert it to an EV.)
    4. Big rig EV's then become viable (continual hookup to the grid is the only way a big rig EV will EVER work.)

    But it'll never happen, because the greenies don't actually give a damn about the environment or helping people out, they care about controlling people, giving government more power and control, and virtue signaling.

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    1. re:
      virtue-signal

      In Eugene Oregon, paranoid hypochondriacs get inoculations at a drive-through at the stadium.
      To prevent wrecks by the recently inoculated, the vehicle occupants are required to pull forward into the observation area.
      The inoc time is marked on the side rear window... 2:40, 8:35, that sort of thing.

      After an approved one-size-fits-all wait, the inocs are allowed to leave.

      I see hundreds of vehicles daily with faded numbers from weeks ago.
      .
      .
      In school, we taped 'kick me' signs on hall-monitors and other goofballs.
      After noticing the results, most kids pulled the signs off their back.
      Hardly anybody wrote 'kick me' on their own coat.

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  6. Never mind travel in temps near or below freezing. A significant amount of your battery power goes just to keep the battery warm enough to work, and forget keeping the cabin warm. That is pure resistance and if it actually works, it is a serious load.

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  7. With my 2012 Prius plug-in, it takes a couple of hours @110vac to charger her up and that's good for about 8 & 1/2 miles; enough for most of my consumer missions. If I plan my outing just right, a tank of gas lasts a month.

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  8. Now I wonder why the greenies want us all in high rise apts? Put business, residential and restaurants in one building and most people would rarely leave their building.

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