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I prefer single stack handgun because when I pick up a gun, I want it to feel like I'm picking up a gun instead of a brick.
Friday, June 18, 2021
Are Single-Stack CCW Handguns Obsolete?
U.S.A. -(AmmoLand.com)- Full disclosure, while I may have learned to shoot on an old Gen 2 Glock 17, my first quality handgun was a mil-spec M1911 chambered in .45 ACP. So, don’t mistake my opinions for those of someone totally enamored with plastic fantastic tactical Tupperware. That said, the title is a valid question. Are single-stack handguns obsolete in the era of ever-shrinking compact polymer-framed handguns feeding from capacious magazines?
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I have both; I carry the 1911 when I don't think I'll be in a situation that I might run dry on (with 3 mags carried) and a double stack when I think there's the SLIGHTEST possibility that I might need 46 rounds (3X15+1 chambered). They both have their pros....and cons.
ReplyDeleteI carry a 38 super caspian with 18 in the gun, and two 18 rders in my shoulder rig.
Delete124gr JHP @ 1450 fps.
Foe every individual, it's their own risk analysis.
ReplyDeleteFor me, considering where I work, where I shop, where I play etc, the chances of me ever needing my gun is as close to zero as possible.
So for me, my EDC has 9 shots and that should get me through whatever situation I encounter in a normal day.
Guys that want to carry 17 rounds plus 2 extra mags, a back up gun and 3 extra mags, go for it.
I'm sure not going to talk shit to or about anybody carrying enough ammo for a minor rebellion.
DeleteNo gun is obsolete in the hands with the will to use it.
ReplyDeleteI have both a S&W 39 and a 59. Like em both. What I carry depends on the situation. It could be a.22 or a 1911. Threat assessment, choice of clothes, comfort all play in.
ReplyDeleteNot if you aim.
ReplyDeleteI arm up based on dress and the weather. Shorts and a t-shirt? S&W J Frame or a 3" XD-S in .45. Winter? USP 45 or VP9.
ReplyDeleteI’ve got small hands and outside of my S&W Victory 22 none of my semi auto handguns have had a grip thats great for me. There are some that are ok. My full size 1911 is the best, however my kimber ultra carry 45 grip has thick stocks and doesnt feel right. My m and p shields feel like I’m gripping a 1by 2 but I can shoot them ok and they conceal well. Well, searching for the perfect grip is a good excuse for buying more guns. My wife is so silly, she thinks I should sell the ones that I dont feel are great. If one of my kids admires a gun of mine I just might give it to them but I dont readily part with them.
ReplyDeleteTsgt Joe, I don't know if any of this will help, but we switched out my grips for 'ultrathin' grips, switched out the stock trigger for a short trigger, and switched out the ambi safety for a extended thumb safety. It was only 1/8 of an inch at a time, but it made a huge difference for me. Even new shooters can run my .45 with good results.
DeleteAs far as double-stacks, the Walther PPQ is the first double stack that fit me well out of the box. I use the smallest backstrap. Most everything else is functional, but as you say, feels like gripping a 1x2.
Hope some of this helps.
ReplyDeleteMaybe time to define "obsolete."
Pinfire cartridges? Maynard tape priming? Probably obsolete.
Revolvers? 1911s? Doubtful.
The newest roonie gun? Caseless ammo? Time will tell.
The State of the Art advances.
"It'll never fly, Wilbur."
-Orville Wright
"It's a poor craftsman who blames his tools."
-My old boss. (RIP, Doyal.)
Matchlock or wheellock, baby!
DeleteI love these articles, they're so meaningless prattle. I have 6, 8, 15, 16 and 17 capacity and I like them all. The double stacks are nearly as slender as the single stacks.
ReplyDeleteWhen you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk, just practice.
Single stack - it fits my hands.
ReplyDeleteA double stack is too big for me and a single stack is just a tad too small. I put Pachmeyr Presentation grips on my carry 1911s, not for recoil control but because it fills my hand just right.
DeleteReverting to the picky lil bitch again, I see. Haha
DeleteYour opinion means less to me than a flake of crap to be cleaned off a toilet seat before use. I've taught a couple thousand of new shooters to shoot - handgun, rifle and shotgun - and fit can make the difference between a person giving up and an enthusiastic new shooter for life. Take your ungrammatical "wooHOOO, ah'm a shewter!" nonsense to someone who belives you.
DeleteWC - I like those Pachmeyr grips on revolvers, especially since the grips with finger grooves almost never match my hold. For 1911s, we found some ultrathin grips (Brownells, maybe?) that really helped. Getting a consistent grip makes a huge difference in accuracy.
DeleteI hate grips with finger grooves. They might fit some people's hands, but not mine.
DeleteI also use those Presentation grips on my Ruger SA revolvers because the stock wooden ones are a bit too small and slick for heavy recoiling guns. Again, not for felt recoil reduction but for a positive grip.
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DeleteMitrailleuse or Ribauldequin?
Glock G43 rocks it.
ReplyDeleteI like guns. I’m with Tsgt Joe. I keep em’ or give them to my kids or a few good friends if they really like them. I have a few the kids will get when I’m gone. Eod1sg Ret
ReplyDeleteI learned how to shoot a pistol with a Ruger Speed 6 .357Mag. Dad reladed and I had to use a hot 38spl +p load (Blue Dot in a 38 case so there was not a chance of double powder loads. Dad was a 1911 fanatic. With heavy loads they pinched the palm of my hand so I wasn't that impressed with 1911's. When I was 18 I got a Browning HP which I became very proficient with. My daily carry is a Glock 20 10mm as it gives me 15 rounds of near 41 magnum power. Glocks may be ugly but they work.
ReplyDeletei'm with wirecutter, except my browning hp fits well too. but mostly i carry a ruger lcr. if i suspect trouble, i carry two.
ReplyDeleteIf there were no such thing as the 1911 I'd go with my BHP. Or maybe a CZ75.
DeleteThin grips on the Hi Power are a distinct improvement over factory or Hogue wood stocks.
I’m carrying an S&W 642 with a CT laser grip. If I felt the situation warranted it I would add a .357
DeleteMag or 9mm. However that very rarely happens. I’m not Sammy Swat or Danny Delta. Just a normal guy who doesn’t want to get robbed/ assaulted. A .38 does that job just fine.
So I guess carrying my .45 Colt 4" barrel birds head grip Berretta Stampede Marshall single action in a shoulder holster is completely out of style. Oh well. Too bad.
ReplyDeleteAs long as you can get ammo for it, whether you buy or reload, that weapon is not obsolete.
ReplyDeleteCarry and shoot what works for you because at the end of the day that's all that matters.
JD
How can having six or eight rounds for self defense be obsolete? Just make them big and make them count. All these articles about certain weapons being obsolete these days I don’t think they know what it means.
ReplyDeleteIt ain't the bow, it's the Indian.
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I've got a double-stack H&K SOCOMM. Worthless as a carry weapon.
ReplyDeleteI carry a 6 shot single-stack Springfield .45, because they don't make a .46.
When choosing a mortal coil, make sure that: A)Has good brain. B)Strong body with large meat hooks. C)A good set of chompers. If you're like me, and can only have two, well, you know the drill. Ohio Guy
ReplyDeleteDepends on how good you are a hitting your target. No much gets up from a. 45 in the engine room.
ReplyDeleteI carry a 357. I practice a lot.
ReplyDeleteI dont go to or through places where I'm gonna need 15 rounds. If I need to shoot a handgun 15 times. I should have brought a rifle. Practice with what you carry. Pratice often.
I carry an LC9S w/extra mags x2. If I can't negate the threat with what I have on board, well; fuck me
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