Remains of Confederate Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest and his wife removed from Memphis park
MEMPHIS, Tenn. — The remains of Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest and his wife have been removed from Health Sciences Park in Memphis, where they had been interred since the early 20th century.
Removing the remains of the greatest Calvary General from the park will have nothing to do with the "healing" of Memphis. It is to placate BLM and antifa. Memphis is a city on its way down to being a shithole, like other democrat controlled cities. Many portions of the city of Memphis have already earned that distinction. Nothing but the greatest respect for the Memory of General Bedford Forrest.
Yup...the biggest problem in that metro S hole known as Memphis is moving the body of a guy that was buried over 100 years ago. that will fix everything. Enjoy your 3rd world status Memphis. Maybe you can re-use the gravesite to bury the hundred of bodies of your low life citizens that are shot every year.
Hey professor it was not ABOUT THE FUCKING SLAVES!!!!!! (The North pushed that line midway into the dispute). You really need to brush up on your American History, the real History not the lies taught in public day-care brainwashing schools.
It amazes me when history illiterates call on other people to read "the real History not the lies taught in public day-care brainwashing schools." Well, how about not reading history written by ignoramuses still butt hurt over a war lost over 150 years ago.
Yes, you are correct as far as it goes, that "...North pushed that line midway into the dispute." But that ignores the fact that the SOUTH - the Confederate government itself - pushed the preservation of slavery from the very get go. Read the articles of secession of South Carolina. Read the writings of such people as Alexander Stephens. Read the Constitution of the Confederate States of America, for crying out loud. Whether the North fought to free the slaves or not is mostly irrelevant. The North, for the most part, fought to preserve the Union. The South, on the other hand, seceded over and fought to preserve slavery.
They wanted to bust up the Union because they were pissed off that a *legal* presidential election didn't go their way. And through that precedent they tried to turn us all into South America, or Africa, or Yugoslavia. And all because their leadership class didn't want to pick their own damn tobacco or cotton. And they would have likely gotten away with it if their hubristic hot-heads hadn't initiated the violence.
Oh well. Flame away if you must, but I am a southerner whose great, great grandfather fought with the 15th Kentucky infantry - UNION! And though I wish the war had never happened, I am glad that the Confederacy LOST!
Ahhh Roy... I'm so glad that you were able to clear up 150+ years of misconceptions in so few words. You must be a really smart guy, or something. When it takes someone like Shelby Foote thousands of words to try to clarify what was happening in the early US that led to that horrible war... and you are able to so cleanly break it down into a single-issue matter, at least for the South. I'm amazed at how totally smart you are. Good thing no one ever recorded the southern boys--the ones getting their guts blown out--as saying things like "I don't care about slavery one way or 'nother. I'm fighting because you are down here." Because if anything like that was recorded, well, you know what it would do to your argument, because you are all smart and stuff. Lucky for all us ignorant slack-jawed rednecks, we have "Roy" here to make sure were not so mislead by "history written by ignoramuses still butt hurt over a war lost over 150 years ago." Or something like that, right? BTW, what the fuck does it matter what your great, great grandfather did? -Just A Chemist.
Being born in the south makes you no more a southerner than a left leaning liberal born in the USofA makes them Americans. As a matter of fact "I'm glad the Confederacy Lost" makes you no Southerner.
The reasons why the South chose to secede, for good or for ill, are irrelevant. The Declaration of Independence says flat-out that People have a God-given right to govern themselves, even to the point of secession. If the right of secession didn't exist in 1861 then it didn't exist in 1776 either. Abraham Lincoln was no better than King George III: when their subjects tried to secede & form their own government (as the Declaration of Independence says they have a right to do) they went to war against them instead.
Hey professor it was not ABOUT THE FUCKING SLAVES!!!!!! (The North pushed that line midway into the dispute). You really need to brush up on your American History, the real History not the lies taught in public day-care brainwashing schools.
Well Roy, hows it taste DIKLIKIN to pass the time? More ignorants! You asshats just cant admit the Southern cause for leaving was just and fair. Im sure you never read the CSA rights for ALL citizens! If ignorance is bliss your one happy bastard arent you?
I just **love** stirring this particular pot. Not a single soul has factually disputed a single thing I've said, but the "butt hurt bees" (tm) are out with ad hominems like an upset hornets nest. Like I care about your name calling.
Nonetheless, the fact remains that **YOU LOST!** and slavery is no more - a very good thing. And I'm glad you did. So eat it.
By the way, did your "real History" teach you that every confederate state - with the lone exception of South Carolina - had regiments in the UNION army? It's true. And I'm not talking about the border states either. Now, tally up the number of regiments from places like, say, Pennsylvania, or Illinois, or Indiana that were in the Confederate army. Use both hands, I'll wait.
"I don't care about slavery one way or 'nother. I'm fighting because you are down here." - Yeah, like the rank and file soldiers are the policy makers. Read what people like Sam Houston had to say about it. (...you've heard of him haven't you?) Or how about John Floyd, or Jefferson Davis. Oh, never mind. They're pretty obscure personages, so you probably haven't heard of them either.
Stir the shit? Yes, I did that and I own it. I listen to these people who preach that the civil war had nothing to do with slavery. I disagree, and I say so, sometimes with sarcasm. Unfortunately, it's impossible to do that without "stirring the shit".
Insult people? Who did I insult? Is sarcasm now insult? Did I make a statement anywhere like: "...hows it taste DIKLIKIN to pass the time?" Now THAT is an honest attempt at insult. (It fell on deaf ears, but still.)
Kenny, I have been a daily visitor and frequent commentor on your site since long before you moved from CA to TN. It is one of my daily reads and I enjoy it immensely. However, it is your site and I will gladly follow your rules. If one of my comments crosses the line, then it is your right to take me to task about it or to delete the comment as you wish. Trust me. You will not hurt my feelings. (...not that that matters.)
So, In deference to you, I will now shut up about this particular subject. Everyone else - flame away!
After they dug him up did they hang him before they re-buried him?
ReplyDeleteAll this crap is really pissing me off!
ReplyDeleteYou are supposed to LEARN from history. not try to erase it...
Year Zero doesn't just happen on its own, comrade!
DeleteRemoving the remains of the greatest Calvary General from the park will have nothing to do with the "healing" of Memphis. It is to placate BLM and antifa. Memphis is a city on its way down to being a shithole, like other democrat controlled cities. Many portions of the city of Memphis have already earned that distinction.
ReplyDeleteNothing but the greatest respect for the Memory of General Bedford Forrest.
And that should put a complete end to crime in Memphis.
ReplyDeleteYup...the biggest problem in that metro S hole known as Memphis is moving the body of a guy that was buried over 100 years ago. that will fix everything. Enjoy your 3rd world status Memphis. Maybe you can re-use the gravesite to bury the hundred of bodies of your low life citizens that are shot every year.
ReplyDeleteIs mlk next to get it ?
ReplyDeleteOf course, he was the moron who suggested we should judge people by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.
Delete(With my sincere apologies to MLK and his family)
They're still trying to punish those who lost THEIR war to keep THEIR slaves.
ReplyDeleteHey professor it was not ABOUT THE FUCKING SLAVES!!!!!! (The North pushed that line midway into the dispute). You really need to brush up on your American History, the real History not the lies taught in public day-care brainwashing schools.
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It amazes me when history illiterates call on other people to read "the real History not the lies taught in public day-care brainwashing schools." Well, how about not reading history written by ignoramuses still butt hurt over a war lost over 150 years ago.
DeleteYes, you are correct as far as it goes, that "...North pushed that line midway into the dispute." But that ignores the fact that the SOUTH - the Confederate government itself - pushed the preservation of slavery from the very get go. Read the articles of secession of South Carolina. Read the writings of such people as Alexander Stephens. Read the Constitution of the Confederate States of America, for crying out loud. Whether the North fought to free the slaves or not is mostly irrelevant. The North, for the most part, fought to preserve the Union. The South, on the other hand, seceded over and fought to preserve slavery.
They wanted to bust up the Union because they were pissed off that a *legal* presidential election didn't go their way. And through that precedent they tried to turn us all into South America, or Africa, or Yugoslavia. And all because their leadership class didn't want to pick their own damn tobacco or cotton. And they would have likely gotten away with it if their hubristic hot-heads hadn't initiated the violence.
Oh well. Flame away if you must, but I am a southerner whose great, great grandfather fought with the 15th Kentucky infantry - UNION! And though I wish the war had never happened, I am glad that the Confederacy LOST!
Ahhh Roy... I'm so glad that you were able to clear up 150+ years of misconceptions in so few words. You must be a really smart guy, or something. When it takes someone like Shelby Foote thousands of words to try to clarify what was happening in the early US that led to that horrible war... and you are able to so cleanly break it down into a single-issue matter, at least for the South. I'm amazed at how totally smart you are.
DeleteGood thing no one ever recorded the southern boys--the ones getting their guts blown out--as saying things like "I don't care about slavery one way or 'nother. I'm fighting because you are down here." Because if anything like that was recorded, well, you know what it would do to your argument, because you are all smart and stuff.
Lucky for all us ignorant slack-jawed rednecks, we have "Roy" here to make sure were not so mislead by "history written by ignoramuses still butt hurt over a war lost over 150 years ago."
Or something like that, right?
BTW, what the fuck does it matter what your great, great grandfather did?
-Just A Chemist.
Oh yea...
DeleteBTW, Memphis is not worthy of the bones of General Forrest.
-Just A Chemist
Being born in the south makes you no more a southerner than a left leaning liberal born in the USofA makes them Americans. As a matter of fact "I'm glad the Confederacy Lost" makes you no Southerner.
DeleteThe reasons why the South chose to secede, for good or for ill, are irrelevant. The Declaration of Independence says flat-out that People have a God-given right to govern themselves, even to the point of secession. If the right of secession didn't exist in 1861 then it didn't exist in 1776 either. Abraham Lincoln was no better than King George III: when their subjects tried to secede & form their own government (as the Declaration of Independence says they have a right to do) they went to war against them instead.
DeleteHey professor it was not ABOUT THE FUCKING SLAVES!!!!!! (The North pushed that line midway into the dispute). You really need to brush up on your American History, the real History not the lies taught in public day-care brainwashing schools.
ReplyDeleteSaber 7
WORD!! Fuckin ignorants annoy me too!
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Well Roy, hows it taste DIKLIKIN to pass the time? More ignorants! You asshats just cant admit the Southern cause for leaving was just and fair. Im sure you never read the CSA rights for ALL citizens! If ignorance is bliss your one happy bastard arent you?
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I just **love** stirring this particular pot. Not a single soul has factually disputed a single thing I've said, but the "butt hurt bees" (tm) are out with ad hominems like an upset hornets nest. Like I care about your name calling.
ReplyDeleteNonetheless, the fact remains that **YOU LOST!** and slavery is no more - a very good thing. And I'm glad you did. So eat it.
By the way, did your "real History" teach you that every confederate state - with the lone exception of South Carolina - had regiments in the UNION army? It's true. And I'm not talking about the border states either. Now, tally up the number of regiments from places like, say, Pennsylvania, or Illinois, or Indiana that were in the Confederate army. Use both hands, I'll wait.
"I don't care about slavery one way or 'nother. I'm fighting because you are down here." - Yeah, like the rank and file soldiers are the policy makers. Read what people like Sam Houston had to say about it. (...you've heard of him haven't you?) Or how about John Floyd, or Jefferson Davis. Oh, never mind. They're pretty obscure personages, so you probably haven't heard of them either.
You weren't content with coming here earlier to stir the shit and insult people, so you came back to do it again?
DeleteStir the shit? Yes, I did that and I own it. I listen to these people who preach that the civil war had nothing to do with slavery. I disagree, and I say so, sometimes with sarcasm. Unfortunately, it's impossible to do that without "stirring the shit".
DeleteInsult people? Who did I insult? Is sarcasm now insult? Did I make a statement anywhere like: "...hows it taste DIKLIKIN to pass the time?" Now THAT is an honest attempt at insult. (It fell on deaf ears, but still.)
Kenny, I have been a daily visitor and frequent commentor on your site since long before you moved from CA to TN. It is one of my daily reads and I enjoy it immensely. However, it is your site and I will gladly follow your rules. If one of my comments crosses the line, then it is your right to take me to task about it or to delete the comment as you wish. Trust me. You will not hurt my feelings. (...not that that matters.)
So, In deference to you, I will now shut up about this particular subject. Everyone else - flame away!
I got nothin' here.
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