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Wednesday, September 01, 2021

Commentary: Who Are the Americans Stuck in Afghanistan?

Having met a number of global traveler-types, I was surprised some years ago when I heard American citizenship described in very unromantic, mercantile terms. The most common expression was, “It’s a good passport to have.” 

For blood and soil Americans, citizenship is something entirely different. After all, two-thirds of Americans do not even have a passport. Rather, this nation is who we are. It is mom, apple pie, Main Street, the English language, our ancestors, our only political loyalty, and our destiny. Unlike globe-trotting “citizens of the world,” we are not just passing through.

23 comments:

  1. Amen. I guarantee 99% of these "Americans" have no roots in this country and didn't have any kin here before 1980. They are creations of paper, not blood and soil. He calls out the leftists, but the so called "conservatives" are just as bad with their "We support legal immigration." ALL immigration since the 1830's has been bad for America and Americans.

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    1. “ALL immigration since the 1830’s has been bad for America and Americans”. Hey, thanks for taking a shit on both sides of my family. My Polish side, six generations back, whose oldest son joined the Union Army and fought in the Civil War and my Irish side who arrived twenty years later. Both families have been tradesmen, with my father and my mother’s brother being the first in their families to get college degrees-after first being in the Army, Korea and WWII respectively.
      John Francis Matuszewski

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    2. I am with you brother...not as much history though.
      My mother and her family immigrated from Canada around 1930's or so. Came in when they had the intake centers at San Fran, Ellis Island and others...mom came in via Port Townsend.
      People forget the reason those facilities were created and WHY they were created where they were.

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    3. I'll bet my grandparents would disagree about your blanket "all immigration" statement.
      The "melting pot" made America great, we were ALL Americans. The diversity push is a push for tribalism, an attempt to take America apart.

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    4. There is a huge difference between the pioneers who arrived by sailing ships, carved out a home from the wilderness, crossed the Appalachians, survived war against the British and Indian raids, etc. as opposed to someone who is allowed to cross illegibly or brought into this country to change voting precincts in swing states and survives off the government teet. The majority of these people could care less about assimilating and becoming Americans.

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    5. Yep, what Jeff in 'Bama said. Legal immigrants, who had to be health checked, had to be vetted and accepted in, or sent back for any reason like inability to work or is sick or is uneducated.

      Even the Vietnamese we let in after the democrats cut the South Vietnamese government's throat, did a good job once they got here.

      The endless flow of illegals and 'refugees' is killing us.

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    6. You do know that a significant chunk of the Union army during the Civil War was from Ireland, right?

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    7. As i understand it, 1861-65, Union army recruiters met each boat.
      Offered meals, wages, and citizenship -- or finding a job in cities overflowing with immigrants -- enlisting seemed like the smarter path.
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      Dressed in an unfamiliar uniform and handed an unfamiliar weapon, many were in the Western Hemisphere for a few hours before going to battle.
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      I harbor significant distrust of YourBetters.

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  2. SUPERB writeup! I’ve also read that some of these individuals with American passports are “Trust Fund Babies” traveling all over hell’s half acre on daddy’s bucks. If they get stuck in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, S Africa, Zimbabwe, or wherever, I damn sure see no obligation for this country to risk life and limb of our military to bring them back. Obviously the same for those of Afghan descent as described in the article who have American passports, but who prefer to live in hellholes until TSHTF. Well, tuff shit. They made their damn beds, let ‘em lay in them.

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  3. I worked with a Cambodian who said he got his citizenship the day before.
    I asked if he had any pictures taken or anything and he said, no, he didn't care.

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  4. OK: Now normally, yeah. Lotsa the 'trusties' that were travelling in and around Affy, up to and including retards like Johnny Taliban Lindh who was on a 'religious discovery trip' courtesy his headcase new-age hippy-dippy retard 'rents. LOTS of 'back in the home country' visitors... like those Cali-Kids and the High School now stuck like Chuck in Kabul. Probably went back to get Uncle Rashid out before the Taliban overran everything (remember up til they took over, the 'off-fish-shul' word was the Tallybananas kids wouldn't take over for -months-)

    NOW? I got friends who made it out by the skin-of-their-ballsacks. LOTS of 3 letter agency contractors, who from what I heard, woke up in the a.m., went to -wherever- the work area was (lots of safe-houses and whatnot, nation-wide) and found the "Prime" (i.e. the -actual 3 letter agency dood or doodette) fucking hatted up and unassed. Some found notes, but mostly the 3 letter kids hotfooted it out of dodge without letting the Contractors know that the jig was up and gone.

    This's why I always had a "Plan B"... I always made sure I had maps, personal transportation available, gazzoline, gold and cash, weapons you name it... evacc routes planned, 'cos once you've gotten a real-life 'burn notice' you be fucked.

    I know of at least 3 folks who have NOT been in contact as of yet. I'm waiting. Figure two of them have to 'overland it' so it may be weeks before I hear. I'll be poasting aboot it later at my house....

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  5. I’d rather be somewhere a little risky than not. Most of the people I trust are of the same mind. All of us know the score. That’s part of why we do it. No one in my circles has been caught out so far. But if they are, that’s life. Most wouldn’t have it any other way. Eod1sg Ret

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  6. Some valid points, but the flip side is that "Civis Romanus sum" once meant something.

    "I am an American citizen" once meant something too. The point isn't defending "paper Americans". The point is that we need to send a consistent message to the rest of the world which is: "you don't fuck with ANY American."

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    1. Same with being a Brit back in the Victorian era. The Brits could go just about anywhere unmolested just because fucking with even one of them could lead to learning what a bayonet up the backside felt like.

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  7. I still do not understand what “high school students” were doing in Afghanistan; it’s not like it’s along the Riviera.

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  8. Granted I just skimmed the article. While the author makes some valid points, particularly about "paper" Americans and, in general, about citizens in foreign countries being essentially on their own, I do not believe this sentiment should absolutely apply as far as those left hanging in Afghanistan. Why? Because of the way we left. The administration pulled out like a panicked Catholic giving no opportunity for citizens to escape. Furthermore, they closed the embassy so there is nowhere in that country for them to turn.

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    1. Biden keeps saying that no one could have foretold how quickly the Afghan army would fold, but he faults stranded Americans for making the same mistake.

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  9. I was kinda wondering, thinking along the same lines. If you account for the service people, diplomats, and various contractors, then who else is there? Surely Afghanistan is not considered a vacation destination? I know in my line of work (large chemical plants) that there is a large group of people who are American citizens but rarely spend more than a week or two here in the states. Instead, they travel the world (usually from shithole to shithole) and advise the locals on how to run whatever Dow, Shell, Exxon, etc. built for them. And those people, if they had any sense at all, would have known from Trump's days in office that we had an agreement to pull out in 2021. If they stayed one day past Jan 21, 2021, that's on them.

    Then the Afghans who came over, became citizens, then went back? No pity, no concern. As far as I'm concerned, all the refugees in the world who we are told are willing to work hard in America, well they can work hard in their homeland too. If it's a shithole, then fix it.

    If there are actual Americans stuck (and the news reports suggest there are more than a few, but maybe not thousands), then we should attempt to salvage what's left of our reputation and get them out.

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  10. I both like and agree with the term "paper Americans". I work with a guy who is 1st generation American (His parents are from somewhere in Central America.) and he likes to boast about his military service and medals from several deployments to Iraq. However, he eschews anything American, like our history, traditions - like Thanksgiving, which he admits that he doesn't celebrate owing to the fact that we "stole" the land from "his people". He wears his ethnicity on his sleeve and always takes the side of the south of the border types with regard to anything, especially immigration. Not only do I consider him a "paper American", as far as I'm concerned he's a fifth column which our government trained.

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    1. You just described the majority of the 82nd airborne! Heretofor to be called the ochenta segundo!

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  11. Wow, interventionism is sooo difficult and tricky.

    Had just ONE major Saudi Arabian city been treated to the Nagasaki effect, you know, in autumn of 2001, and no fucking troops had been sent anywhere, no *not-for-Patriots-Act*, no take your shoes off at the airport, and no goat-fuckers being pulled out of shitholeistan to *save* them from collaborating with the yankees.

    No, interventionism really sucks. BFYTW, united States war planning government foreign interventionist bastards.

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