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Tuesday, January 04, 2022

‘Where’s the justice?’ Retired police commander confused, angry over daughter’s death at hands of Redmond officers

Andrea Churna thought someone was trying to kill her when she called Redmond police for help the night of Sept. 20, 2020. Raised around cops, she did what she was asked to do when police arrived to find her armed with a handgun. 

She put the weapon down, walked out of her apartment unarmed, clad in a T-shirt and yoga pants, hands up, and laid face down on the carpeted hallway floor outside her door — “proned out” as officers at the scene described it. 

None of that kept police from killing her. An officer, just 18 months out of the police academy, shot the 39-year-old mother six times with a high-powered rifle as she lay on the floor 30 feet away. She had been in obvious distress and was asking for her ex-husband.
-WiscoDave

38 comments:

  1. This is what you get when you yell "defund the police". Dumb f**ks that haven't a clue what to do.

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    1. Actually, this is exactly why people yell Defund the Police. Because of dumb fucks who shoot short, overweight women, with mental difficulties, who are laying face down, with no weapons, for over 3 minutes. But only after their comrades have shot up the entire apartment complex, with bullets entering various apartments, including those occupied by people not even involved with the incident being investigated.
      When I was young, in highschool, I attended a week at the Michigan State Police academy, in East Lansing, one of the most respected training centers for state police in the nation. I was interested in becoming a state trooper after high school, and they had a program called the student trooper program. It was worthwhile, and I learned a lot. But my life followed a different route.
      The thing is, back then, the police as a whole earned my respect, while now, they have to do so, individually, one cop at a time, since they no longer deserve respect as an organization.
      You do understand that the FBI is a law enforcement organization, right? Enough said.

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  2. My cousin (who hasn't worn a badge in over 40 years) would probably say, "Well, they told her not to move, and she moved."

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    1. Glad your POS cousin is no longer a smart ass thug.

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  3. Oh yeah. LEO are going to defend the Constitution. And your rights. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yes, they will. Uh huh. You can BET your LIFE on it!
    And the Justice Department will NEVER turn a blind eye to wrong, no matter who commits the crime. No siree. Nope. They got this! Thin Blue Line, baby.

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    1. You get 5 or 6 of them together the testosterone starts flowing. One on one , not so much . Heh .

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  4. I'm sick and tired of hearing cops talk about being in fear for their lives. If you're such a pussy, quit. Get a desk job somewhere. Be a mop boy at a peep show. Flip burgers. Shooting someone who's unarmed and laying prone on the ground because you're scared? Every officer involved should be prosecuted, serious jail time for the shooters, and everyone else fired and blacklisted so they can never again wear a badge or carry a gun. Period.

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    1. This.

      Whenever I saw a dumbf*ck officer say "I always worry about coming home safely" I immediately think "Then Quit! I don't want you wearing a badge or carrying a gun in my name if you're so worried about coming home at night. It does you no good to remain a cop; it does your family no good for you to remain a cop; and it does society no good for you to remain a copy. Quit!"

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    2. "Every officer involved should be prosecuted, serious jail time for the shooters, and everyone else fired and blacklisted so they can never again wear a badge or carry a gun"

      Decimation is a pretty good means of correcting undesirable behavior, too. Just sayin'.
      - Marcus Licinius Crassus

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    3. RE: decimation

      I agree. At this point, at a minimum, every cop that was on the scene and silent about it needs to be fired because they represent the loss of public trust. Sure, we don't have the evidence to prosecute and put them in jail, but their silence makes it obvious that they can no longer be trusted.

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  5. Six times...with a bolt action rifle? From 20 feet?

    Where was this again? DC?

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    1. From the article:

      "Several were armed with M4 assault-style rifles and two carried “ballistic shields” designed to stop a small-arms bullet. Officer Mendoza, who had completed his field training just five months earlier, raced upstairs and took up a position at the intersection of the “T,” armed with a .223-caliber rifle loaded with a 30-round magazine."

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  6. More evidence that government employees should not be armed.

    Love how the overpaid government employees are taking the 5th and refusing to be interviewed. I support their right to take the 5th, but any government employee who commits acts for which they need 5th Amendment protections should no longer be a government employee and should not collect a government pension.

    Can you imagine how long that would fly in the productive sector. Company flunky: "Mr. Lane how fast were you going to get that forklift into the cab of that truck?" Warehouse worker: "Nah, I don't want to talk about it."

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  7. https://kuow.org/stories/redmond-woman-was-on-the-ground-for-three-minutes-when-she-was-fatally-shot-by-police-records-show

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  8. Hey Rayvet, here's another of those stories that never happens. You know, the ones only liberals believe
    JD

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  9. If her father was half a man he would be on the lead story on nightly news - for killing a cop.

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    1. ....and calling it self defense. Then shut up and lawyer up.

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    2. I have often wondered if Ashli Babbitt had any male relatives that would avenge her

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  10. Kind of reminds me of this guy:
    https://www.copblock.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Officer-Philip-Brailsford-Mesa-PD.jpg
    Philip 'You're Fucked' Brailsford.

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    1. Thanks. That guy. Now on medical retirement for PTSD.
      Someone on the internet said (therefore, it must be true) that the other asshole in the video who was shouting at the victim, a sergeant, retired soon after that and moved to the Philippines.

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    2. THAT fucking story really gets my blood boiling. The poor victim of this asshole was told to “walk on your knees” to the cops.
      His shorts dropped a bit and he pulled them up.
      That was the “justification” for killing him.

      The same department that exonerated the cops that machine gunned *both* people in a car that ran from police. Like the passenger had control of that car from the right seat!
      Assholes doesn’t BEGIN to express how I fell about those dickheads.

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  11. If that happened to my daughter I'd be doing some hunting....and EVERYONE from the DA, the chief and on down would be on the list.

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  12. I'm hearing about this for the first time. Maybe that's because she was White.

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  13. Once you call the cops, you pretty much need to hunker down in a safe space -- without the weapon visible. If the cops see you with the weapon through a windows, they may assume you're the baddy and shot you through the window. When the cops knock on the door, do not bring the weapon with you. You've already indicated that something is amiss and Rambo-junior is looking for a score.

    Once you call the cops, you've turned handling the situation over to them -- and you should now be weapons-free.

    The cops will probably take at least a half hour to get to my house, so the odds of me calling them (and sitting around unarmed praying nothing bad happens) is reasonably low. Once I know the area is secure, I might call them.

    I noticed that the victim in this case a white female. Was the cop black? Between the Minneapolis cop killing the unarmed white woman and the D.C. cop killing Ashlii Babbitt ...

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  14. Way back in the 90s when I attended the academy, we were called Peace Officers and it was drummed into our heads that our number one duty was to protect the constitutional rights of every person we contacted. Nowadays the academy turns out Law Enforcement Officers who are trained that their number one duty is to do home safely at the end of a shift. I call bullshit. You signed up for a dangerous job. There is no guarantee that you will go home at the end of the shift. Far better to make it a point to say your heartfelt farewells when you leave home for a shift.
    I retired after 17 years with a city PD in SoCal. When I left in 2012 we were averaging an officer involved shooting every 6 weeks just in our little valley, multiple armed robberies daily, home invasions & rapes every 3 weeks or so. Now living in Wyoming where we might have one officer involved shooting a year in the entire state. My wife watches my routines (locking doors, ALWAYS carrying a pistol and a flashlight, etc.) and tells me I was traumatized by my Kalifornia experiences. Maybe so.
    Point being, IMHO this was a bullshit shooting by a kid not prepared for duty on the streets. Having spent 15 of 17 years as assistant range master, I have some knowledge and training with use of deadly force. Hate to say it, but this officer needs to be taken off the streets and put away in prison -- at the very least.

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    1. I hate to break it to you....but statistics say a cop just isn't that dangerous of a job. Number 25 as a matter of fact. My job has routinely been in the top ten. So have a lot of other Americans.

      Get over yourself.

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    2. In the 1960's, a police exchange program involving a large California city got an officer from England for cross training. On his first day, after seeing everyone gear up, commented that it looked like they were preparing to enter a war zone. The US cops agreed that that was an accurate description of what they'd run into out on the streets.

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  15. they're all accessories to murder. start there. if it were any of us and we refused to talk they'd be charging ALL of us. why do cops get a pass?

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  16. A few weeks ago a bitch cop in Tucson shot a wheelchair-bound old guy in the back eight times, then came around the side and gave him one more for good measure. No taser, no broom handle through the spokes..just an on-camera public execution. So far? Crickets...

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    1. It looks like Rambo-the-Cop was male. The first two times I watched the video, I thought female as well. Turns out the body-cam was from the female-cop, but Rambo was male.

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  17. Mental illness mixed with a visit by the popo almost always never ends well. If any justice is to be had at this point, one must leave the lawyers, courts and media out of the equation. Ohio Guy

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  18. All these cops running around playing army is asking for trouble. The cop that did the killing was no doubt a Mexican and probably in the US illegally. These Mexicans are imported to the US like cheap coffee beans. No need to come here illegally unless you are fugitive in your own country and so many of them are fleeing justice when they hide in the US. Too many municipalities are recruiting illegals to staff their forces up. The killer cop could have been MS13 even. And then you have a local and state government made up of homosexual men and women and their minds are always on various perverted activities instead of taking care of business. Someone has to the the adult and the adults are gone on vacation from the West Coast.

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    1. Where in the hell did you come up with all that? Show your work, please.

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    2. Drugs are bad, mmmmkay. You sound like an unhinged jackass. Stop.

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  19. " In irrational moments, according to police interviews with friends and family, she was convinced a “network” of people were attempting to kidnap her and her son and force them into sex slavery.

    “The thing is, she recognized she might not be thinking clearly,” Tim Churna said. “She let me have our son full-time for a period so she could work through this. She was highly functional. She knew some of this was irrational.” "

    These days, you gotta wonder how 'irrational' she really was...

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    1. Irrational enough to call the cops.

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  20. Sometimes I think the police are the absolute worst street gang in existence . All of the murdering thugs involved ought to be brought to justice . Anyone with two brain cells to rub together can figure out that the good old "Thin blue line" will stop anything bad from happening to all of the shit birds involved. About the worst that will happen to them is a couple years of "Paid administrative leave" so they can go fishing at taxpayer expense . So , Dad ought to do it on his own . I'd love to be on that jury !

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  21. This story clearly demonstrates why ALL police, politicians, and government employees MUST be stripped of "Limited/Sovereign Immunity" and be replaced with liability/error insurance that doctors, lawyers, and other professionals have been paying for out of their OWN pocket for many years. When your entire estate & EVERYTHING you own is up for grabs when you make a dumb fuck mistake (read criminal misconduct & in this case reckless homicide), it radically changes behaviors and thinking processes (thinking processes not applicable to police) most if not all are "spring loaded to the DUMB SHIT position". Lastly, police should be stripped of automatic, semi-automatic, & repeating firearms and be issued a .32 short revolver and a SINGLE round of ammunition to carry in their buttoned shirt pocket! Calling the cops is THE worst possible thing you can do! They either do NOTHING and usually make the situation MUCH worse.

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