So on July 12th, 2019, as Hodge delivered food in northeast Minneapolis, she prepared herself for a routine traffic stop when she saw red and blue flashing lights in her rearview mirror.
Police body camera footage shows Minneapolis Park Police Officer Calvin Pham explaining that he pulled Hodge over because her phone was in her hand and she wasn’t wearing her seatbelt.
But sixty seconds after approaching Hodge’s car, Officer Pham suddenly pulled his gun out of his holster and ordered the 42-year-old woman out of the car.
-WiscoDave
I'm always amazed at the apparent irresistible instinct to try to loudly please your case with someone pointing a gun at you. I don't think I've ever seen one of these videos where a police officer suddenly says, "Oh sorry! You're right. You can get up off the ground now. Have a nice day!"
ReplyDeleteAll that said, looks like a very bad choice by the officer in this case, and I think the city got off light with only $100,000.
I have CCW permit. One rule they kept enforcing in the training, if pulled over state you have a CCW and whether you have a gun or not.
ReplyDeleteInterestingly - the cop said he saw CCW permit. In NC, when they run my tag, it shows me as owner and that I have a CCW.
Great story about traffic stop of my bride - she drive VW bug convertible with hippie dippy peace signs hanging from her rear view mirror. She got stopped at (illegal) road block "license check". Her gun in her purse with DL.
She pulls up - cop asks for DL. She states, I have a CCW and I have a loaded gun in my purse where my license is. Is it ok to get my license?
She said his eyes got big and he said "That was not what I was expecting to hear - chuckles - good for you. Yes, get your license".
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Per the TV news report, the settlement was for a CIVIL RIGHTS lawsuit. So . . . no luck if it happened to me. (And by the way, she had a pretty bad attitude.)
ReplyDeleteBack in the '60's, I had rented space in a downtown Atlanta garage to work on an Alfa I'd bought which needed much more work than could be done in a back yard. About zero dark thirty my friend, Paul, called for me do come downstairs. I looked out the window and there was a cop who had Paul backed up against the wall with his gun pointed at his nose. At the time there was one officer per car with a roving sergeant. By the time the sergeant got there, Paul had produced a key to the place and things had quieted down. At the time, my mother worked for the city and knew the sergeant. He told her that if he'd been those boys he would have stuffed that gun up the rookie's ass. I assume he was referring to the carelessness of getting up close to two young males ('course we were white) with a drawn gun. It wouldn't have ended well if we'd tried to cram the gun up the cop's ass. Who you callin' boy? We were twenty-three or twenty-four years old. So was the cop.
ReplyDeleteThought you are required to announce immediately that you have a carry permit and a weapon. You do in Ohio and lots of other states.
ReplyDeleteThis comes from the state's .gov site. Clear as mud -
Do I have to disclose to a peace officer that I am a permit holder and carrying a firearm?
Yes, upon request of a peace officer, a permit holder must disclose to the officer whether or not the permit holder is currently carrying a firearm.
You don't have to notify the cop here in Tennessee.
DeleteMakes no difference, the article says she didn't have a firearm on her that day. From the article:
“You didn’t see a firearm, you didn’t ask if I had a firearm, you just reacted to something that you seen in my wallet,” Hodge said, adding she does have a valid permit to carry license but did not have the gun that day.
Back in about '95, I was stopped for speeding in Fulton County, suburban Atlanta. The officer asked for license and registration. The registration was in the glove compartment so before I reached for it, I said, "There's a gun in there." He didn't react other than to nod slightly. No, "Get out of the car" or reaching for his weapon. Of course, this was Georgia and a White policeman and a middle-aged (at the time) White man. A different mix of demographics might have produced a different result.
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Back in 2008 I was on my Electraglide in Duluth GA. A Gwinnett county cop was tailing me on Satellite blvd. I had been running 2mph under the speed limit and she turned the rollers on. I pulled over in a car dealerships driveway. The lady cop had taken a defensive stance behind her car door with her gun drawn as I stepped off the bike. She ordered me on the ground spread eagle. I complied and was cuffed. Two more cop cars showed up within seconds. She stopped me because she thought the Q in my tag was a 0 as she had ran the plate and it came back as a stolen Honda. When they asked for ID and insurance I told them the insurance was in the left saddle bag and my ID was in the tour pack along with my carry permit and a gun. They got very concerned when they saw the pistol was a Uzi. It took another 15 minutes of radio background checks and paperwork verification before they removed the cuffs. I did get to witness the shift supervisor verbally reprimand the lady cop of not reading the tag right. He apologized profusely and gave me his card.
DeleteI was carrying the Uzi to a gun shop in North Fulton to put it on consignment. I had inherited it from my father and had a 30-day window to get it to a class 3 dealer while I applied for the full auto stamp or sell it. I opted to sell it as it ate ammo like someone else was paying for it.
"panic attacks, flashbacks and worries about other Black drivers on the road today..'
ReplyDeletePoor baby. Now flip it and you'd know how a White person would feel driving through Harlem and other diverse areas at night. Hell, anymore it's any time of day.
Honestly, I think he grew tired of her shitty attitude. Holding your cellphone while driving is illegal. So is not wearing your seatbelt properly. It doesn't matter a good goddam WHY you were doing either, it only matters that you DID.
ReplyDeleteSo shut the fuck up and take your lumps, bitch.
You nailed it, Shell. She could have avoided the whole thing by not being a Karen.
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