John Durand said that his daughter, Jacqueline, was scheduled to dogsit three canines on Dec. 23, 2021, the day before her 22nd birthday. She met the animals and the couple she would be working for a week in advance, and Durand said that there were "no incidents," but when Jacqueline Durand went to the house, she was attacked by two of the three animals.
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Having owned large dogs all my life, there's no way in hell I would tell anybody to just let themselves in. Even as gentle as CharlieGodammit was, he'd bite anybody that tried to get in if we weren't home.
And that asshole dog Jack? Even if we are home visiting with somebody on the back porch and that guest tries to go through the door to use the bathroom or whatever without me standing right there, that guest is going to see some teeth. Once they're inside, they're cool, it's just getting in the door.
I agree incredibly foolish on both ppls parts, all dogs have the potential for that some more then others, anyone who knows us knows to keep clear of our puppers, he's the biggest sweetie ever with the wife and my 3 boys, I mean absolutely sweet and lovable, but anyone but them or nana comes near and a switch flips and he's in murderdeathkill mode, best friggen guard dog ever
ReplyDelete"anyone who knows us knows to keep clear of our puppers"
DeleteHave a lot of friends, do you?
I know you guys love your dogs. It is your primary responsibity, not mine, to ensure your dogs don't injure me. Your dog is an AI combat robot with uncertain programming.
ReplyDeleteWhile noting this particular incident occurred on private property, I need to point out that my right to move freely in public places (streets, parks etc) exceeds your dog's right to exist in that space. If you lose control of your dog and it tries to harm me I will kill it without hesitation. I am equipped to do so.
There are effective visual clues you can send to dog owners in public. I send them. Watch for them.
Why keep them a secret? Tell us more, so we are informed.
DeleteSounds like you just have to look for someone acting like a dick, and you might find him
DeleteOne wonders why those idiots didn't securely crate each of their dogs knowing that they had bitten strangers before. I hope they pay restitution for the rest of their lives--like after they pay for ALL her medical bills they have to write a $5000 monthly check which they both have to bring to the girl's home and hand it to her in person. Just so they're reminded the damage they caused to young girl's life.
ReplyDeleteI can identify with the don't knock or ring the bell advice. Our dog reacts to doorbells on TV. What I don't know is if someone actually comes through the door without one of us in control, whether she would kill them or stand back and bark. I got into it with someone from another part of the subdivision once when I was down at the street with our 50lb, GSD mix when this Karen was entering our short block ending in a cul-de-sac. My dog was going crazy and I asked the woman if she really had to come into the block. She went off about the street wasn't my property and I didn't have my dog under control over and over. I finally said, "She's under control, I'm keeping her from ripping your throat out." The woman then went off on "dangerous dog" over and over. I finally told her to shut the fuck up and go away. Which she did, saying she'd be back. During this, her husband had taken their other dog and went another way. If she's been back I haven't seen her. Most neighbors just wave and turn the corner. The vet said we should get a friend or neighbor to de-sensitize her. My experience with cars is that she would have to be de-sensitized to every individual dog she'll ever see.
ReplyDeleteI was asked to feed and water a friend's Rotty while they were out of town for a week. This was a dog that loved the shit out riding in my Jeep and we got along loke he was my own dog. Yeah, All that went out the window on day one. I opened the front door and he initially was happy his family came home until he saw me. Backed himself in a corner and would not let me come any closer to feed him and check his water. Called my friend and he said the damn dog can starve then. That was a hard no so I fed Max through the back yard fence once I realized they left the door open for him. As long as I wasn't in the house without his family he was cool. Big lesson learned that day.
ReplyDeleteA friend had a Rottweiler. My kid was all over him. He was a big dummy. The wife used to say someone could break in and the dog would show them the silver. One day an Akita came in the yard. The wife was hanging clothes the husband splitting wood. The Akita growled at the wife. Outta nowhere the Rottweiler flew past the husband and hit that Akita so hard he was sure it broke the Akitas spine. He had to pull his dog off with a pole what had a hook on it. That dog died of old age and it was the only time they ever saw it show aggression. Oh the Akita, the neighbors dog, was bloodied big time and limped from the yard and never returned.
ReplyDeleteA Rottweiler can be the best dog in the world to it's family but be a totally different dog to a perceived threat to it's family.
DeleteMy dog gets along great with the neighbors, mailman, UPS guy and assorted people who walk for exercise past my yard. But the guys who deliver packages to the house know to blow the horn and wait for me to go to them. He doesn't threaten them just gives them that "you shouldn't be inside my yard look" and everyone understands.
JD
Yeah, I dogsat my veterinarian's Great Dane once, and he had me come over two days in a row before he left, so the dog would see me putting the afternoon food bowl down and would associate me with being fed.
ReplyDeleteHe also had me arrive 30 minutes before he left, so the dog would have time to relax and I would be there as he closed the door. This way, the dog would assume I belonged there.
Veterinarians know stuff.
I can't imagine the pain and terror that girl felt.
The very fact that this Dr.and his wife are not flooding the news with at least token apologies (cleared by their lawyer), tells you much about them.
ReplyDeleteAt this point I'd rather see them arguing against being euthanized, rather than their dogs.
You can't just show up a week before and the dogs will be OK.
ReplyDeleteThis is why we mostly board ours. They are off their turf and are playful as always. We had our kids friend house sit twice so far. But that was preceded by weeks of him and my son coming over to dinner and playing with the dogs. So when he showed up, it was "My Buddy's here!" and not kill murder death.
The key is that I have to invite you in. Then, they're cool.
All three are shepherd/lab mixes. All three are territorial and protective.
Swrichmond, you have a right to any public space, sure. Do you exert that right and then walk up to thugs on the street and proclaim that? Basically asking for a beatdown, rights or not?
Because that's what you'd be doing if you come closer than 10' or so when I'm walking my dogs.
I've had joggers running in the street decide to get on the sidewalk and run right at me. I've had the dogs sitting as I picked up dogshit and idiots literally try to walk right by them. Most of the people I meet walking dogs have the sense to cross the street, as I will if I see them first. It's common sense and courtesy.
There are effective visual clues dogs show in public. They are sending them. Watch for them.
When passing someone walking a dog in my path / the side of the street I am on I will stop and stand in place. This way it is your decision as to how closely you will pass your dog to me. The decision is yours, as is the liability. I have a right to be on the street same as you. If your dog attacks me I will kill it.
DeleteAs to the visual clues dogs show, I do pay attention to them. I will not relinquish public space to your animal. Control your animal. It's an animal. It's yours. Do not expect me to move out of the way of your unruly dangerous animal.
I had a friend who had an extra large and strong German Shepherd cross. This dog was extremely protective, especially of the wife and kid. Having been close friends for about five years, the dog liked me and considered me part of the family since I spent a lot of time there. I was the only person in the whole town that could feed and water the dog when they were away without becoming dinner.
ReplyDeleteIf I had ever yelled or lifted a finger against one of them, I have no doubt he would have protected them to the max. I also believe that if he saw anyone outside the family threaten me, he would have gone after them.
You have to know how to read a dog AND always approach with the right attitude. They will sense if you mean harm or are afraid.
That was as gut wrenching a read that I can remember.
ReplyDeleteMy god... There are no words. If anyone wants, there's a GoFundMe page that I just donated to.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.gofundme.com/f/dog-sitter-jacqueline-durand-nearly-killed-in-ca
I agree—no words. Thanks for posting the link.
DeleteBe very careful SW. Pulling a gun on someone's dog could just as easily get you shot.
ReplyDeleteEvery now and then I would babysit the neighbor's 3 mastiffs. I was warned, do not let them in the same room as you.
ReplyDeleteI devised a plan. I would trick them to come into their play room I could lock up. Then an empty room between there (added insurance) and where I was cleaning up and filling their food and water.
Then I would open the door to the middle room, barely open the door to the play room, run like an Olympic sprinter into the room where their food was, and through that room into the back yard. And shut the door behind me. All the while calling them.
Then I would go around the outside to let myself into their play room and clean in there. When all finished I opened all the doors except the door where they were. I opened the front door, opened their door and ran out the front door and quickly closed it behind me.
It was like a game and I got some exercise. A few times I had to shove a paw or snout back inside the front door. They were fast, even after had just eaten. I think they enjoyed the chase. I also think they learned the 'order of the doors' as sometimes they were all waiting at a door which amazed me. So I switched the order.
While it was a daring bit of fun I never forgot what woulf happen if they caught me. That meant I would double check my escape path before opening the door to whichever room they were in.
Try owning Fila Brasilieros. They do not leave the 110 acres. People do not come in the 110 acres.
ReplyDeleteOnce I locked them in the chicken house (the hens were outside) when friends came to visit.
They showed up unexpectedly to my wife's chagrin. I had to replace the hen house door.
I sleep well at night and now the brutes go into the basement when invited guests arrive.
Do NOT get a Fila unless you live in a 3rd world banana republic AND have lots of dog knowledge, especially Mollossers.
My 3 year old daughter rides them and sticks things in their nose and pulls their ears and all sorts of stupid things.
A stranger shows up unannounced,... last one was 17 stitches, before I called them off.
And that is why we do not have friends my wife says.
And that is why the guns are in the safe I say,...
We made the mistake of buying a fila from a bad breeder, somebody would come to the door the dog would run upstairs and hide in the bedroom. The dog was never a normal dog. If you are buying a dog find a good breeder. I have raised rotties since the 80's and I should have stuck with them. Live and learn.
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