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Friday, March 18, 2022

Three songs from my younger days I absolutely refuse to listen to now

Something a little different tonight: I usually post music that I listen to, groups I like, shit like that. Tonight it's 3 songs I won't listen to.
There's actually more than 3, but these are the top ones, and not in any particular order because I hate them equally, but for different reasons. You will notice however the common theme here is burnout.

This song became popular back when I was in high school and unfortunately at the same time small personal cassette players became the latest fad, so it was the Perfect Storm.
Every fucking teenage girl would go to school with their cassette player in their book bag with one just tape and that would be Led Zeppelin IV. It didn't matter of they were stoners, jockettes, 'tards, whatever, they all wore that song out. 
Our high school had a smoking area out front where different cliques hung out and during lunch you could have 16 different groups of girls hanging out within earshot and hear that fucking song coming from 16 different directions and none of them were in synch. Fuck man, even the black chicks were listening to that shit. Our two asian girls played it.
They'd play the song, rewind it, play it again. You could ask 10 different girls to name just one other song on that album and 9 of them would give you a blank stare.
Apparently Robert Plant feels the same way I do according to this short video, so I don't feel real bad.
But yeah, we came back to the States in 1976 and moved to Georgia where Southern Rock had a firm foothold, so I was able to regain my sanity. The last time I listened to that song was in 1976 or '77 when the Led Zeppelin movie The Song Remains The Same came out. Me and a bunch of friends got tore up one night and went to see it in the theater. When that song came on, it was nauseating. Literally. I started feeling queasy as soon as I heard the first notes and thought at first maybe it was the sourmash or bourbon or rye or maybe even the beer, but as soon as the song ended I was fine.
I haven't risked it since.

Pretty much the same reason here too - it's not the only song on the goddamned album, bro. The only thing with this song is that it was popular with both the boys and girls so there was just no escaping this motherfucker.
Don't get me wrong, I dug Queen - early Queen, their first 5 albums. Sheer Heart Attack was their best album if you ask me and it was so good that we were all anxiously awaiting the release of A Night At The Opera because with their first 4 albums, they got progressively better. As good as Sheer Heart Attack was, this new one was bound to kick ass.
After it was released and the PX got it, they sold out within a couple hours. Not as impressive as it sounds as they probably only had a couple hundred albums, but still. One of my buddies snagged a copy on the German economy, so we ingested a goodly amount of LSD-25, fired up a couple bowls to kickstart the buzz and turned on the jams.
Not bad. Not great, but not bad. The one song that didn't impress me at all was Bohemian Rhapsody.  Not that it was a bad song, it just didn't do much for me. The rest of the album, well, we figured it would grow on us, and it did. 
But yeah, that first night we listened to it one time and then the acid started coming on like gangbusters so we put on some Pink Floyd and listened to that for the next 12 hours.
The rest of the world however, went nuts over Bohemian Rhapsody. Instant hit. It just exploded. I was hearing that song dozens of times a day. I'd go to the Teen Club to shoot some pool and it would be on the jukebox. It was on AFN constantly. I'd be walking down the street and a car driving by would be blasting it. I'd go to a friend's house and he'd be playing it. And of course all the cliques hanging out in front of the school played it constantly.
What sucks is I'm still hearing that fucking song. It's not nearly as bad as it was when it was released, but I bet I still hear it at least once a month.
But the last time I actually put Bohemian Rhapsody and sat down to listen to it? Honestly, I don't think I ever have, not even once. I've got the CD for my truck and whenever that song comes up, I just punch the Next Track button and drive on.
And while I did dig their first 5 albums, I just lost interest in any of their newer stuff.

I know, I know, you're going 'Freebird?'
Freebird came out on their Pronounced album back in '73 or '74 and we were in Germany then and mostly into harder rock, so there wasn't a lot of exposure to it. Then we moved to Georgia in '76 and the only thing that was popular there was Southern Rock and Skynyrd was king.
Southern Rock just didn't do for me what it did for other people. I liked the music, but I liked Hendrix and Nugent and Deep Purple and Pink Floyd more. That didn't stop me from going down and getting tickets to see Lynyrd Skynyrd at the Columbus auditorium in May of '77, by far one of the most memorable concerts I've ever been to and I've got a couple hundred under my belt. Hell, I've been to over a hundred Grateful Dead shows alone and don't remember a shitload of those. 
Sadly, it was less than 5 months later their plane crashed, killing Ronnie Van Zant, Steve Gaines, and backup singer Cassie Gaines.
A couple years later, I'm in the army and had fallen in with a merry band of miscreants, drunkards and ne'er-do-wells. They were the mechanics for the company and to a man, all Southern white boys. These boys were so Southern that entering their barracks room, the first thing you notice is the battle flag on the wall - unless Hoagie was passed out on the floor in his drawers and in his own puke, you'd notice him first, of course.
There were framed pictures of Confederate generals Stuart, Jackson and Bragg on the minifridge and window sills. There was a fucking statue of Bob E. Lee mounted on his horse Traveller sitting on the cable reel that served as a coffee table. They even had an album of Confederate ballads and songs they played and sang along with on a fairly regular basis.
They also played Freebird on a regular basis, about 10 or 12 times a fucking night. For some ungodly reason they interpreted it as to getting out of the army, so it became the official 'I Wanna Go Home' song. I shouldn't have to remind you that these boys drank heavily.
And then some asshole decided that it would be a good idea to salute the battle flag when it came on. That shit got real old real quick. I mean once or twice is cool, but every time? Especially when they played an album, played Freebird, played an album, played Freebird... Fuck man, give me a break here.
So one night in a move so ballsy I am to this day amazed at its stupidity, I stood up and told them "Fuck that and fuck you, I ain't doing it no more". Looking back, I realize now I probably could've been a little more diplomatic in stating my position. At first they were shocked , then that very quickly turned to rage. They beat my ass, bro. They beat me up, they beat me down, they beat me all around. Fucking epic. After it was over with and I was laying in the cornering counting teeth and checking various appendages for free movement, they were in another corner glaring at me and muttering shit like damyankee and traitorous cocksucker and Californian. It was not looking good here. I figured they wore themselves out beating my ass so much they were only taking a breather, but between the asswhipping and alcohol responsible for it, I faded out. When I came to, I was in a chair with my right hand duct taped to my neck. I was told later they tried to tape it to my forehead in a mock salute, but they fucked it up and didn't have enough duck tape to redo it. Close enough for government work.
And then, when those bastards saw me stirring, they put on Freebird. Did I at least try to salute before the shooting pains in my arm and shoulder got too bad? You better fucking believe it, buddy. One asswhipping like that was bad enough, no way in hell I wanted two in the same night.
What really pissed me off was the very next weekend they all decided they weren't going to salute the flag when the song came on anymore either. They did however continue to play that fucking song 10-12 times a night.
So when was the last time I heard Freebird from start to finish? Well, I left active duty in July of 1981, so that would make it..... July of 1981. I've got a Greatest Hits CD for my truck and Freebird's on it. I hit the Next Track button every time. Painful memories.

BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE!

Fuck it, as long as I'm talking about shit I won't listen to, I would be remiss if I didn't mention that you'll never hear of me listening to anything the Rolling Stones put out. I cannot begin to tell you how much I detest the Stones. I don't know why I hate them so much, but I do.

I hate the Stones so much that if I'm in your truck and you put in a Stones CD, I'm ejecting it and frisbeeing it out the window. I'll pay you for it, but that one's history.
I hate the Stones so much I wouldn't even have considered dating a woman that liked them.
I hate the Stones so much I won't even listen to Aerosmith because Steven Tyler looks like Mick Jagger.

Hey, I like and respect the talents of every member (except Jagger, fuck that guy) of that group as individuals, but when they come together, they lose me.
The common denominator here is Mick Jagger. I'm not even going to get started on what I thing about that prissy, thick lipped, scrawny little bitch.
 

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    1. I totally agree with these choices, absolutely loathe these. I do still love Stairway and Freebird, two of my favorite bands still. Loathe that damn queen song. Love Southern rock still,, listen to it every day... Hybo

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  2. Wow. I never listened to any of that music. Guess I was an "easy listening" kind of guy.

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  3. It's funny. Lynyrd Skynyrd was my favorite band when I was young. I worked a lot of hours listening to them on my headphones and their music helped keep me awake while I worked some pretty grinding hours. But I have to admit Free Bird was probably my least favorite song. I can't explain why, but other than the guitar work I just wasn't a fan of the tune.

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  4. I grew up in Southern Rock and Roll. My cousin was Danny Joe Brown of Molly Hatchet. Allman Brothers, 38 Special, Lynyrd Skynyrd, ZZ Top, Outlaws, Blackfoot, and ARS are on every playlist I have made since playlist were available.

    I think Queen was one of the best bands ever as well as the Stones before they turned 50. Led Zeppelin is enjoyed across all of their albums. Lots of good music. Stairway to Heaven and the movie Dirty Dancing both get my wife very affectionate. I will queue either of them up every chance I get.

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  5. Let's just say I purchased a total of about 30 albums between 1970 and 1980 and nothing since. No stones, aerosmith, skynard, and a whole host of others.

    Led zep, Pink floyd, Beatles white, Sly Stone greatest hits, Santana, a few others is all.

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  6. I hear you, we were just bombarded over and over, and you are right- over it!
    But as I’ve enjoyed all of your posts, this one stood out. Stop being so wishy washy, tell us what you really mean.
    🤣

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  7. These days, Satriani is still on the list. Never got into metal. Forget country after 1960 or so, no rap, no pop.

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  8. Does anyone know if there is anything to the rumor that Steven Tyler is Mick Jagger's illegitimate son? Well, if it isn't true, it should be.

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    1. H, hard to say. I met Steven Tyler back in '93. I was in a ditch with my brother changing out a rotten section of gas pipe one July, and Bertie the Fat Irishman, also in the ditch with us, said "Jaysus Haytch Christ, dere's a beautiful blonde and the ugliest feckin' brunette oi've ever seent coming out of yon mansion with a jug o' ice water for us, boys.' Bertie had shitty eyes. It was Steven Tyler and I guess his wife. Super nice guy. But yeah, he looks disfigured. Like a wax statue left too close to the heat register.

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    2. OK, you just changed my opinion of Steven Tyler 100%. Thanks for skooling me about that.

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  9. I played guitar for a living for 20 years. I got sick of a lot of songs. Nazareth: Love Hurts, Bob Segar: Old Time Rock and Roll, Stones: Honky Tonk Women, and on and on. When asked about Stairway to Heaven I still respond: "Yeah, I liked it the first 10,000 times I heard it." I can't stand most of the "good ole stuff". There are so many modern, amazing musicians and singers to be found on YouTube, why should I waste what little time I have left knawing old bones?

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  10. I will not listen to rap, any rap, by anyone. 1960's, Army barracks, it was either hillbilly shit or "soul" music. Lots of fights started, 1700 AFN and the Hillbilly Jamboree.

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    1. One thing about Armed Forces Vietnam Network, you were guaranteed 30 minutes of polka music a day. Mind you, I did not say that was a GOOD thing.....

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  11. Rather listen to those songs than The Doors or Bob Dylan or Bruce Springsteen or John Cougar Melonhead.

    Seriously, grew up in Melbourne, FL and absolutely fucking hate Jim Morrison with a burning hatred.

    Dylan can die in a dumpster fire.

    Bruce baby can be tossed on Dylan's flaming corpse for all I care.

    And added bonus: Any fucking version of "Ring my Bell." ANY VERSION. Heard a Baroque-style version of it. It sucked. Heard an orchestral version of it. SUCKED. Rap version Double Fucking SUCKED. The original or any remake? I will take an ice-pick to your fucking eyes and stir your brains. Fucking absolutely fucking hate that song. Demons can be summoned if Dylan or Springsteen or Melonhead (or Madonna or Lady Gag-Reflex..)

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  12. I was surprised that commie anthem Imagine wasn't on the list. That song drives me into a blind rage. But then I hate the Beatles like you hate the Stones.

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  13. Ah, sweet youth!

    Skynyrd was actually my first-ever concert, fall of '76, and I got to see the original lineup play Freebird just months before the tragedy. But at the time I had no idea who they were, nor had I ever heard that particular song yet. After all, this was Nassau Coliseum, Lawn Guyland. It was a triple bill - Lynyrd Skynyrd, Doobie Brothers, and...Firefall. Of all damned things, we were there to see Firefall, as my older half-sister and her best friend (my date) were monster fans of that obscure, B-list band. I knew of the Doobies, of course. But headliner Lynyrd Skynyrd? Southern rock had yet to make much of a dent as far north as we were, and Marshall Tucker was as "deep south" as we'd gotten by that point.

    Anyways, Firefall opened, played 'You are the Woman' but didn't oblige us with 'Cinderella', which to this day makes me choke up due to its too-familiar theme. They actually apologized as they left the stage for taking up our time, saying that the "real acts" were up next.

    All I can recall of the Skynyrd set was the sonic assault that left me deafened for days, and our local version of Good Ol' Boys tossing fireworks and anything else at hand from the cheap seats. My date ended up with a splash of mustard on her blouse, tossed from some drunken lout far above us. We were mid-teens at the time, and I suppose that girl will always associate me in memory with deafening noise and Gulden's Spicy Brown.

    I graduated from high school too late for the 'Stairway' mandate. But I think I would have appreciated that song more than 'Last Dance' and all the BeeGee's shite that we were subjected to when I left childhood behind. My sons are both huge Queen fans, and I have only in recent years rediscovered a fondness for the Stones, myself. The early stuff (Under My Thumb) rather than the later (Miss You) crap.

    The music we grew up with is the soundtrack to our lives. I pity the kids of today.

    TBC

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  14. Hey Kenny;

    I tend to agree with your list and the only Stone song I like is "Paint it Black", and the story behind that one was it got hung onto a TV series that we GI's watched in the barracks. We liked the realism, the attention to detail, they had used Vietnam veterans as advisers to ensure the realism and gritty reality...for 80's TV anyway. When the show came on, the dayroom was full as everybody clustered around the AFN broadcast of the show. This song is the only song by the Rolling Stones that I liked.....We would cheer when the soldiers would shoot up Charlie and the firefights. The interplay of the people was very well done, we liked the way the new LT played by Stephen Caffrey was mentored by the platoon sergeant played by Terrance Knox. All the other guys also played well on each other and at the end of the video, it showed the 3 soldiers standing at attention and saluting the flag on TV at the end of the broadcast day....when they played the national Anthem. That was telling for me. The simple patriotism showed represented the beliefs of the Veterans in their country.

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    1. PiB is also the only Stones song I still like. What was the name of that TV show? Ken, I agree with your statements as well as some of the other commenters.

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    2. Was that show China Beach? I didn't watch it much, but it was pretty good. I was on an off shift for several years at the time, and so didn't watch much television then.
      I used to feel like a traitor for hating Skynyrd, The Stones, Queen, and Zeppelin. Especially Zeppelin. I never could get into a group that stood there and played a song for 11 minutes that didn't make sense, and had no real musicality to it. But of course it was because of that reason that all of the people were supposed to like them. Kind of like Bob Dylan. I could not stand to listen to him. Some of his songs were pretty good, if sung by someone with a good voice, but if sung by him, no thanks.
      I don't mind listening to a singer with a unique voice, even if they are quirky, so long as they are not plain weird. Here is one that I stumbled across years ago, and I have heard her voice on commercials and in introductions for television shows and such. There are a lot of really impressive singers out there, who are better than those who hit it big, but just need a break. This was one of them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpMI8Qu5fsc

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    3. HEY Pigpin

      Dangit, forgot to add the name of the series...""Tour OF Duty" China Beach was a spinoff.

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    4. Thanks Pigpen. I'll buy that.

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  15. Well if you're not going to post any tunes, I'll just have to go visit the lovely Diogenes Sarcastica.
    https://www.diogenesmiddlefinger.com/2022/03/middle-finger-symphony-theater_18.html
    Thanks for the rant though, and although I agree with some points, overall nothing can replace sixties and seventies Rock & Roll.

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  16. The 1/2 hr version of In a gadda da vida. I still want to shove an awl into my eardrums when I even think about it.

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  17. Weird Al's version of Bohemian Rhapsody is at least more tolerable.

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  18. I hadn't listened to Staitway to Heaven for probably 30 years, listened a few months ago and got into it.

    Amen on early Queen. But yeah, Bohemian Rhapsody, We Are The Champions and We Will Rock You get me to changing the station faster than Duran Duran

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  19. RHCP's "Under the Bridge". I was working in a small print shop and one of the other printer-guys was in his early 20's. And I swear, one of the local radio stations (91x) played that f'ing song every twenty minutes.

    Thirty years later and I still skip it whenever it comes on....

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  20. Just the opposite for me. I hated
    Freebird when it first came out. Now I really enjoy it, not love it, but enjoy it.

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  21. Some comedian once described Jagger's performance as looking like "a rooster on acid". Forget who said it. Plus, their recordings sound hollow and tinny. Very nerve grating.

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  22. I always thought I would never get sick of Pink Floyd but I did.
    And I agree with you on the others except I feel I’ve evolved to liking the Stones. I think their older stuff like Paint It Black holds up so much better than the Beatles’ stuff. My buddy played Emotional Rescue a million times while we fixed PRC-77 radios all day in Okinawa.

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  23. Dirty Dingus McGeeMarch 19, 2022 at 1:56 AM

    Someone with a similar opinion

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qkkSZNKwmE

    The original version in on his album called Pianist Envy. If you can find it, it's fuckin hilarious.

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  24. I feel that way about almost anything from my younger days, I get tired of anything pretty quickly.

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  25. The one that makes me sick is Do You Feel Like We Do by Peter Frampton. Man, talk about burnout. That fucker blared from every tape deck in the barracks in the summer of 76, all day and night.
    The song I hate even more than that one though, is the absolute worst song ever recorded in all of human history, Sweet Child O' Mine. I'll hurt myself rushing to turn it off when it comes on the radio. I hate Axel Rose like you hate Jagger and I can't fuckin stand Guns n Roses.

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  26. Your comments here are on point for me; especially the stones. They are nothing more than a bad garage band. I never liked their crap.

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  27. The Beatles. I mean fuck those douchebags. In the ear. With a truck bumper. At highway speed. I can't wait for the reunion to happen. Every fucking Saturday from age 8 to 18 I had to listen to 2 hours of the Beatles while hauling lobster pots with my neighbor out in front of the neighborhood. Best incentive ever to buy my own boat, and even now, 30 years after hearing "Let it Be" played with the reverence of 'Amazing Grace' for fucknut WASP hippies, on a boat thousands of times larger than my first music-free lobsterboat, I don't allow music on the bridge, control rooms or galley at any time, just in case the Beatles try to get me.

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  28. I was running with two different groups. One was always playing Moody Blues, other was into Pink Floyd. I still dig CCR. I mostly agree about the Stones but make an exception for Honky Tonk Woman, Brown Sugar and maybe, Satisfaction.
    Daryl

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  29. Born To Be Wild. Gak. Pass the Geritol.

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  30. you know you are old when you step into the elevator and hear "stairway to heaven"
    will not listen to anything by
    Beatles...Elton John....Bob Dylon....Queen.... and any rap "artist"

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  31. Different generation, I guess. When I was in school at Fort Monmouth in '64, the big ones were "I Wanna Go Home" (Detroit City) and Dock of the Bay played constantly on the juke box in the PX where we took breaks. I never, ever want to hear one of these again.

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  32. The Stones haven’t gotten better or come up with any new and interesting in 50 years. They are still just a successful garage band.p flogging the same old monotone crap.

    If you want real interesting music and lyrics … go to Steely Dan.

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  33. Well , I am sick of the fab four. Never liked the stones much, Johm cougar mellenoma head males me change the channel Right Fucking NOW , i like somebody who can tell a story. country(the good kind) with the likes of Johnie Cash , Willie Nelson , shit even Gordon Lightfoot tells a good story, no rap , no country/rap highbred or hiphop . No madanna or her ilk either

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  34. Aerosmith stuff before they quit drugs was ok. Back in The Saddle is one of my favorites. The fucking ballads, Elevator, Jamie, OMG, fucking horrible. Lot of horror stories about Tyler being a fucking asshole from the early days. Had a habit of fucking with opening acts equipment. One time was when Kansas was opening for them. A couple of those boys were big ol'cornfed country boys, one looked like Andre the Giants younger bro. Probably weighed twice what he did. A couple of them jacked him up and set him straight. Never pulled that shit again.

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  35. H8 Marxist Rat Bastards and PNsMarch 19, 2022 at 12:40 PM

    Whoa. . . . . the surprise was Stairway to Heaven. I get it though. . . . I binge-listened When the Levee Breaks for years. LZ 1 still my fave. The stuff I can't listen to is anything Foghat. I don't know why; maybe it's the mixing, or the slide guitar. . . it just sucks. .. .ALL OF IT.

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  36. Radio stations play the same songs over and over again. I heard about the LS song, Needle and the Spoon a long time ago.

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  37. Skynyrd was my favorite band and Freebird was my anthem when I was in 9th grade. I can't listen to it anymore.

    When Stairway comes on the radio, I always say Stairway To Freebird!

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  38. No Aerosmith? Huh.Yeah, there is a physical resemblance between Tyler and Jagger, unfortunately. Worked with a woman who adored Tyler. Thought he was "hot". She was in her 40s and on marriage number 3, so her track record of picking men is a bit questionable. In addition to so many of the songs others have listed, I can't listen to Rush. NO RUSH. EVER. No Dylan. Guy sounds like a cat being dragged behind a car. Journey, Seger & Foreigner were my main staples and still are. Oh yeah, no rap either. It's not music. It's bad nursery rhymes with guns and sex.

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    1. I used to see Tyler on Maui a lot. On the beach or in grocery stores. I'd nod on occasion and he'd nod back. Always there was some stupid broad with stars in her eyes chasing after him with pen and paper for a autograph. Nope, don't like Aero Smiths shit but gott damn leave the fuckin man alone.

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    2. I thought I was the only one. Nothing gets me to change a station faster than when a Rush song comes on. I would switch to listen to a commercial if I had to. Something about that voice on Tom Sawyer.....

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  39. Warren Zevon and Loudon Wainwright 3 and lately pentatonix

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  40. You young dudes are funny!!! My music of choice is 1950's and 1960's "Street Corner" Harmony and any and all Doo Wop music. All the other so-called music is OK but not my favorite. I truly hate most of the recent stuff...especially rap and electronic club music.

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  41. I can only come up with two that I absolutely LOATHE:
    The "Tighten Up" by Archie Bell & the Drells, a moronic song that I switch stations when I hear the lead singer starting his intro;
    "Brick House" by the Commodores, I was in a place where the 'Vibrancy' felt it was their mission to 'culturally enrich' the rest of us, which they did as often as possible, & LOUDLY.
    anonymous2

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  42. The Joker by Steve Miller, HATE that damn stupid song! Also, why would any Southern boy have a picture of General Bragg? I have pictures, of many generals. Lee, Jackson, Stuart, Longstreet, A.P. Hill, Early, Cleburne and others, but BRAGG? As one Confederate general remarked, "Jefferson Davis has tried to do what not even God could do. He has tried to make a soldier of Braxton Bragg"

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    1. I think I pointed out a couple times those boys drank heavily, right?

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  43. Songs that ya hate that get in your head? Mine is, I don't know the title but the lyrics, Kickin and a gouging in the Louisiana Bayou. Going down in the swamp gonna get cha boy but he never come back again. I know more of the lyrics but I'll stop. That damn thing goes round and round in my head when I mow the lawn. I figure the songs tune must be similar to a 25 horse engine.

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  44. Agree with many on here and will add Hotel California.

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  45. Not a song, but a particular DJ. The last DJ according to Petty.
    Jim Ladd. He's on Sirius/XM Deep Tracks, which I listen to most of the time, except when he's on.
    He's a fucking flaming fucking liberal piece of shit Biden/Obama/Hillary/BLM/Racialist supporting SOB.
    But what really pisses me off is that he can weave a set of songs together like no other in the world.
    It's sad that a talent like that is wasted on a fuctard like him.

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  46. I basically loathe anything that gets the constant rotation on any "classic rock" station. Most of those have retired Zeppelin's Stairway to Heaven in favor of the Immagrant Song, and Pink Floyd's Money has been played to death, so they've substituted Another Brick in the Wall Pt.2. Iabsolutely loath Queen, and in particular Bohemian Rhapsody. That's an absolute train wreck of a song! Way too much going on musicaly, and lyrics that don't make a damn bit of sense. Sounds like they were trying to cram an entire opera into 6 or 7 minutes.

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  47. Creedence, so done. I don't want a thumbs up or thumbs down button on my Pandora. I want a Stalin button that erases every Creedence song, cover, band member's solo career, all of it gone!

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  48. Friends in low places, it was big when I shipped to Desert Storm, and sometimes all you could hear in the compound, anything Bruce Springsteen, born in the USA, wanting the USSR, any other overplayed Undertalented 1 shotter they try to push through the celing.

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