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Friday, April 15, 2022

California bill looks to redefine, scale back 40-hour workweek

A new bill working its way through the state legislature could change the definition of the workweek from 40 hours to 32 hours. 

Lawmakers say the change would improve quality of life and even productivity.

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Shit, blue collar people can't afford to live in California as it is, and now they're talking about cutting a day's pay?
Cue in people screaming for a pay raise across the board...

That being said, I worked a 4 day week for the last 10 years or so before I retired and I loved having a 3 day weekend every weekend. The only difference was, I worked four 10 or 12 hour days.

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  1. Quite a few large corporations have gone a similar route, changing the 5 day, 40 hour workweek to 4 days, 40 hour. It's popular as far as I can tell. Others have chosen a more middle ground, something they call 9-80's, which is 9 days over a 2 weeks period, same hours. Most people choose alternate Fridays, some choose alternate Mondays. This one is more common and probably less disruptive to corporate activities.

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  2. I read (somewhere) the other day where a millennial was lamenting about how to keep a
    40 hours a week job from interfering with his personal life. I thought to myself, I hope he likes eating on a regular basis and living indoors.

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  3. I worked for GE in a call center back in the 90s, working my way up the IT ladder. On the graveyard shift, we worked in two teams of two, and we were doing 4 tens then 3 off and one overlap night where all 4 of us worked. Our manager let us work two weeks back to back, then have our 3 day weekends back to back. 8 on 6 off was a pretty sweet deal in my mind 20s. Then HR found out what was going on after about a year and had a complete hissy fit.

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  4. I understand how some would love to work 32 hours. Myself, I worked in a shop that often in my last 10 years or so, spent a 24/7 melt schedule, with some holidays even melting, with double time.
    We got 2 days off for Thanksgiving, for Christmas, and New Year's Day. We often had to work the Friday after Thanksgiving, never Christmas. New Year's Day was sometimes a 2 day melt floor worker voluntarily work, to do maintenance that could only really be done by those who actually worked with the equipment. I sometimes worked the New Year's Day 2 days, so that those who partied, could still get their time off, and the money was great.
    I could only go for about 2 months in a row without a day off, of 12 hour shifts, before I used one of my 25 days of vacation days, to get a break. More often, I would take 2 days together, on a weekend, when the weather promised to be nice, and my wife and kids and I did something.
    I know that there were several factories that worked 365 here in my city. Many of the others were hooked with the auto industry, and had to keep up with the demand for parts. My city has gotten much less of an industrial town and more of a tourist town, with the city planners trying to get rid of some of the negatives of industry, with us having such a beautiful part of Lake Michigan as our western shore.

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  5. IIRC, the California law says that the paycheck can't be reduced when going from 40 to 32 hours, basically mandating a 20% pay raise.

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    1. An when even more businesses pull up stakes and run to literally anywhere else to get away from the ever increasing insanity, the media will be quick to blame "white supremacy" or some such nonsense.

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  6. The bill in CA still requires that employees get paid the same for the 32 hour week as they were paid on the 40 hour. And time and a half for anything over 32.

    Massive increase in labor costs.

    I have also heard that there is some kind of exception on union and govt jobs but I don't know the details. Maybe it's just a back door way to force unions on all employers.

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    1. That would be a strong possibility since the one-party state government is owned lock, stock and barrel by the labor unions.

      When you research the people running California it's pretty incredible how many began their working careers as employees or attorneys for labor unions. This includes a good percentage of the powerful unelected bureaucrats that sit on state boards, some of them for decades.

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    2. And overtime for anything over 8 in a day.

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  7. I would love to work 4 10s, most of my days are 10+ anyways

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    1. That was the way we figured it too. The cool thing was, when we went to 4 ten hour days for some reason our daily hours pretty much stayed the same with no proportionate increase. We figured we'd go to 12-13 hour days, but for the most part they stayed at 10 1/2 to 11 hours except for the holiday season which was our busiest time of the year anyway.

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  8. The amount I am able to accomplish in a ten-hour day is far more than what can be done in one eight-hour day and the next day up until noon (twelve hours.) When I was in oil and gas, we worked eight ten-hour days and had six days off (Wednesday to Wednesday for work and every other Thursday to Tuesday off,) and we loved it.
    The biggest issue these days is trying to motivate the younger generation to actually accomplish anything while trying not to interfere with their idiot phones and social life.
    I could not care if 90% of today's youth bloody starve under a bridge while they complain about the poor quality of the free WiFi.

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  9. I haven't read the bill but i wondering if they are redefining "full time employment" to something less than 32 hours? If so, then the real purpose of the bill is to force companies that cut hours to avoid paying for benefits to now provide them.
    Most of them cut the hours to offset the increase to a $15/hr minimum wage.

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  10. Monty Python's Four Yorkshiremen Sketch
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEIApUNVBKg

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  11. Her goal is to force people to join unions if they want full time work, otherwise they’re only allowed to work part-time.
    Progressives have it in their head that everybody MUST join a union, whether they want to is beside the point.
    All progressive labor policy is highly tilted to unions (and often written by unions).
    This bill being discussed exempts Unions. Only by having Union labor can an employer have workers work 40 hour work weeks.
    Seems to be a mighty big legislative hammer towards unionization.

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  12. 4 twelves for my crews so we all get three days off per week.
    Ohio Guy

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  13. I had a 3 day work week for a while. Working the weekends at a walmart D.C. Friday Saturday Sunday 12 hours work 36 on the weekends but make the same as week days doing 40 4 10s, never any overtime though. It was cool to have 4 days off , but I never got to see my friends because I was working weekends when everything was happening. Im doing something else,and now its 5x8 with the opportunity for O.T. we had been on a four day schedule doing 10 or 12 but they went to a three shift system ,and I went into the maintenance department now I dont get as much O.T. but a little better money.I think I had 5 days off the summer of 2020 I just came home to shower and sleep spent most of my time at work

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    1. Don't just trade the hours of your life for a paycheck. My ex did that and once the youngest was out of college there was no reason to stick around anymore. Her job always came first. Her hobbies second. She destroyed her relationship with me and all three kids. She's now 60 and alone. Our son refers to her as the crazy cat lady, without the cats.

      Be sure to put food on the table and a roof over the head, but also live life along the way.

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  14. I owned a restaurant business for ten years.
    Sixteen-hour days.
    No bumblebrat is going to order me to not work.
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    I just turned 70.
    I hooked-up with every temp agency in the county.
    These two weeks, I am contracting with a welding fabrication shop.
    Last month, I worked with an arborist, topping trees.
    A couple months ago, I managed a restaurant for a month.
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    I have zero-zero-zero respect for bumblebrats in the first place.
    Any 'restricted to 32' nonsense lowered that amount significantly.

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