It's almost like they want the state to dry up and blow away
HUNTINGTON BEACH, Calif. -- A report issued Monday urges a California coastal panel to deny a proposal to build a $1.4 billion desalination plant that would draw on the ocean to expand water sources in Southern California.
I lived in Monterey for a few years. Back the DLI was located there. I got the flight deck fire hose of Russian for 48 weeks (included reading and writing) then a gain for 24 weeks of Japanese (only listening and speaking).
The place was absolutely gorgeous. Joe Pisto was the rage on the wharf. Gilroy for the garlic festival. Ever have garlic ice cream? It’s good.
Salinas was a great place for FFV but I didn’t spend too much time there being an uncomfortable Anglo who didn’t hablo espagnol.
At any rate I lived in a shitty rental a few blocks up from Cannery Row. The living room window view was extraordinary.
Were I not a military non-resident I never could have afforded to live there.
When were you at DLI? I was there when the aquarium opened. (Showing my age, I know.) The place was beautiful, but expensive as Hell and run by Leftist shitheads. It's really too bad that it's illegal to kill Commies.
“This project raises significant and complex coastal protection policy issues,” staff wrote in the report, “including conformity with policies that require protection of marine life, water quality, environmentally sensitive habitat areas, and policies meant to avoid or minimize hazards associated with sea level rise, floods, tsunamis, and geologic hazards.”
"They also say the water would be too expensive."
So, is "expensive" water worse than insufficient water or no water at all? And what do "protection of marine life, water quality, environmentally sensitive habitat areas, and policies meant to avoid or minimize hazards associated with sea level rise, floods, tsunamis, and geologic hazards" have to do with a desalinization plant?
Read the comments. One commenter was of the opinion that all California needed was more reservoirs and micro reservoirs to solve the problem. A desal plant was too expensive, bad for the environment.
It's really quite simple. You kill all reservoirs, dams, powerplants and even capitalism itself, but you keep all the good parts like transportation, power, medicine, communications, a stabile food supply, entertainment, employment, air conditioning, heat, consumer goods, twice the life span from 100 years ago and the like. Those sorts of things just sort of happen, right?
They are trying that as well. San Diego wants/wanted to introduce water from their sewage treatment plants back into the drinking water. The claim being it is cleaner than the water they are providing now. They already have the purple sprinklers that indicate the water is from a reclaimed water source, but not for human consumption. I wouldn't trust reclaimed water from the City to save my life. They can hardly maintain the water infrastructure as it is.
From another report, the plant first applied for this permit in the 1990s, and has been trying to get it done ever since. Califirnia has been sitting in 1.4 billion Federal dollars approved for new water reservoirs for ten years. Their "water crisis" is absolutely manufactured event. John in Indy
I heard and read about the desalination plant as far back as far as the early 70s maybe the late 60s. That stretch of beach was and still is pretty much empty except for the SCE power plant, no doubt there are plenty of people who would like to see it gone as long as they had a way to charge their cellphones.
So let's see. The Coastal Commission staff, who are all given their jobs by the California Coastal Commission members, recommend to the Commission's members that the project not move forward. And the California Coastal Commission members were all appointed to the Commission by either Jerry Brown or Gavin Newsom.
See how this works? This decision has nothing to do with marine life, rising seas or potential impacts on environmental justice communities. This is all about politics. And the truth is the Democrats are sucking up to the enviros while scuttling a project that would consume massive amounts of electricity in a state that doesn't have enough of it to go around as it is.
In its 50 years of existence the California Coastal Commission has become a Luddite dream team. Unspoken is that these desalination plants are built by power stations because they require a huge amount of electricity. The power plants also have in place infrastructure to pull in the needed water. I wouldn't be surprised if the unspoken reason for denial is they can't see how it will be powered without denying power to others or building additional power plants. The power plant in Carlsbad was converted to a peaker plant, powering up only when needed. I suspect it runs more time than not. Power from a peaker is always more expensive.
Not the state - the population.
ReplyDeleteI lived in Monterey for a few years. Back the DLI was located there. I got the flight deck fire hose of Russian for 48 weeks (included reading and writing) then a gain for 24 weeks of Japanese (only listening and speaking).
DeleteThe place was absolutely gorgeous. Joe Pisto was the rage on the wharf. Gilroy for the garlic festival. Ever have garlic ice cream? It’s good.
Salinas was a great place for FFV but I didn’t spend too much time there being an uncomfortable Anglo who didn’t hablo espagnol.
At any rate I lived in a shitty rental a few blocks up from Cannery Row. The living room window view was extraordinary.
Were I not a military non-resident I never could have afforded to live there.
Ragnar
When were you at DLI? I was there when the aquarium opened. (Showing my age, I know.) The place was beautiful, but expensive as Hell and run by Leftist shitheads. It's really too bad that it's illegal to kill Commies.
DeleteEarly 90’s. I liked the aquarium too. A few years too late to see Clint Eastwood as mayor of Carmel. My (now ex) wife worked in a boutique there.
DeleteRagnar
Democrats don't want solutions, they only want problems, and if they don't have problems they'll create them.
ReplyDeleteVery well said. I concur.
DeleteRepublican politicians are better but still crappy money grubbers too
DeleteSome Californians would cut off their balls to save a tree frog. Why would they approve something that benefited them?
ReplyDelete“This project raises significant and complex coastal protection policy issues,” staff wrote in the report, “including conformity with policies that require protection of marine life, water quality, environmentally sensitive habitat areas, and policies meant to avoid or minimize hazards associated with sea level rise, floods, tsunamis, and geologic hazards.”
ReplyDelete"They also say the water would be too expensive."
So, is "expensive" water worse than insufficient water or no water at all? And what do "protection of marine life, water quality, environmentally sensitive habitat areas, and policies meant to avoid or minimize hazards associated with sea level rise, floods, tsunamis, and geologic hazards" have to do with a desalinization plant?
California has plenty of water. They let it run into the sea unused. Gotta protect some critter or some such shit. Fuck em.
ReplyDeleteThe Libs want to commit social suicide. It's California so let's urge them on.
ReplyDeleteRead the comments. One commenter was of the opinion that all California needed was more reservoirs and micro reservoirs to solve the problem. A desal plant was too expensive, bad for the environment.
ReplyDeleteIt's really quite simple. You kill all reservoirs, dams, powerplants and even capitalism itself, but you keep all the good parts like transportation, power, medicine, communications, a stabile food supply, entertainment, employment, air conditioning, heat, consumer goods, twice the life span from 100 years ago and the like. Those sorts of things just sort of happen, right?
ReplyDeleteMaybe if they drink their piss it will prevent climate change!
ReplyDeleteChutes Magoo
They are trying that as well. San Diego wants/wanted to introduce water from their sewage treatment plants back into the drinking water. The claim being it is cleaner than the water they are providing now. They already have the purple sprinklers that indicate the water is from a reclaimed water source, but not for human consumption. I wouldn't trust reclaimed water from the City to save my life. They can hardly maintain the water infrastructure as it is.
DeleteHey, keeps the sea level from risin', right?
ReplyDeleteRight?
Right?
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From another report, the plant first applied for this permit in the 1990s, and has been trying to get it done ever since.
ReplyDeleteCalifirnia has been sitting in 1.4 billion Federal dollars approved for new water reservoirs for ten years.
Their "water crisis" is absolutely manufactured event.
John in Indy
I heard and read about the desalination plant as far back as far as the early 70s maybe the late 60s. That stretch of beach was and still is pretty much empty except for the SCE power plant, no doubt there are plenty of people who would like to see it gone as long as they had a way to charge their cellphones.
DeleteSo let's see. The Coastal Commission staff, who are all given their jobs by the California Coastal Commission members, recommend to the Commission's members that the project not move forward. And the California Coastal Commission members were all appointed to the Commission by either Jerry Brown or Gavin Newsom.
ReplyDeleteSee how this works? This decision has nothing to do with marine life, rising seas or potential impacts on environmental justice communities. This is all about politics. And the truth is the Democrats are sucking up to the enviros while scuttling a project that would consume massive amounts of electricity in a state that doesn't have enough of it to go around as it is.
Dry up and blow away, then they can say, "See? We told you this would happen."
ReplyDeleteIn its 50 years of existence the California Coastal Commission has become a Luddite dream team. Unspoken is that these desalination plants are built by power stations because they require a huge amount of electricity. The power plants also have in place infrastructure to pull in the needed water. I wouldn't be surprised if the unspoken reason for denial is they can't see how it will be powered without denying power to others or building additional power plants. The power plant in Carlsbad was converted to a peaker plant, powering up only when needed. I suspect it runs more time than not. Power from a peaker is always more expensive.
ReplyDeleteWhat California needs is top kick out the fifty million plus illegals. Water problem solved.
ReplyDelete