With that shirt on I'm surprised he's taking such precautions. I guess with the accelerating decline of the western mind we aren't that far behind or, more likely, the Russians are leaving us in the dust with respect to common sense. I guess I should applaud this guy instead of criticizing. cheers
Had one of the Spec 4s in the motor pool at 2/7 Inf (3rd ID) get the top of his head taken off when a split rim from a 5 ton went. He was in a hurry on a Friday afternoon and didn’t want to take the time to use the tire cage. There, but for the grace of God….
Doesn't matter whether it's a split rim or not -- There's the equivalent potential energy of a couple sticks of dynamite in that tire. If the bead is bent or there's a manufacturer's defect or there's hidden damage, you really don't want to be on the receiving end of what could happen.
So, if the tire were to let go, he's ensuring that he won't even move with the force of the blast wave, so he'll take the full force of it all to his face, his back and his neck. /smart/ -- Davis.P
I worked at the Cities Service Gas Station on the NJ turnpike back in 1963-65. We never had a tire cage. All truck tires back then were split rims. Another guy I worked with was filling a tire just like the yo yo in the pic. Apparently he didn't seat the ring right and it let go about 10 seconds after he backed away from it. If you're ever on the NJ turnpike, the gas station is still there on the north bound side between exit 7 and 7A. Should you go into the parking lot in front of the garage bays, there's an open bay. The marks of the ring in the concrete ceiling are still there.
Wheels on Big Jets are Alcoa Forged-Aluminum Tie-Bolt Rims with 32-Ply (or more) Tires pumped up to 210 PSI with Nitrogen. Every Tire Change and you Inspected the Rims and Bolt-Holes with an Electrical Eddy-Current Tester to look for Cracks. The Wheel Tie-Bolts and Nuts got Magnaflux Inspected every 2nd or 3rd Change. We never used a "Tire Cage", as that would just be More Shrapnel if the Wheel failed. I have a 50-Foot Hose with the Gauge on one end, and the Locking Chuck on the other. Never had one Blow, by being excessively Critical when Inspecting and Assembling them.
IMHO, he will probably be dead or catastrophically injured if that tire pops, even with the cage. Isn't the tire supposed to go in the cage? I'm ignorant on these things.
A Les Schwab guy was called to service a big rig tire on I-80 near my home a few years back. The wheel was very warm, as the truck had just come down over Donner Pass. The service guy successfully repaired the flat and inflated the tire using a safety cage, but when he was in the process of mounting the tire and aluminum wheel back on the truck the very warm wheel had shrunk enough that it allowed the tire to jump the bead and explode in his face. He was killed instantly. If you're familiar with Alcoa aluminum wheels you're aware of how little bead surface there is to hold a tire under normal circumstances, let alone it that bead diameter shrinks due to cooling. This accident was one for the books. I have a friend whose profession was changing and installing truck tires and he told me he had never heard of a case like this happening before.
I can't answer that question, rick. I was a local guy who packed his own spare tire and wheel and was home every night to swap it out if I had a flat that day.
You might ask a friendly long haul trucker at your nearest truck stop about that.
Hey, rickn8or- I just saw your question about split rims and I can tell you that my local tire shop won't touch them because they have no one that has ever worked on them. So I have a feeling there may be shops that will change them but you probably have to look around to find one.
What brought it to my attention was a Freiberger and Finnegan "Roadkill" series ("Stubby Bob" that featured an elderly Ford truck that needed new tires. The tires were no problem, but they had to scour the Georgia countryside to find someone to mount them that wasn't tethered to an oxygen tank.
With that shirt on I'm surprised he's taking such precautions. I guess with the accelerating decline of the western mind we aren't that far behind or, more likely, the Russians are leaving us in the dust with respect to common sense. I guess I should applaud this guy instead of criticizing. cheers
ReplyDeleteThe t-shirt says all you need to know about his intelligence.
ReplyDeleteHis shirt tells you just how dumb he is. Swapping places with the tire just confirms it.
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Colorado Fairplayjeepguy?
DeleteDepends on who the anon asking is.
DeleteTypical commie attitude. Screw everyone else as long as I make out okay.
ReplyDeleteDoofus. That is not a split rim. No danger. Worked with a guy once and he had one pop on him. Broke his arm.
ReplyDeleteAre split rims (and people willing to work on them) still a thing?
Delete100% BULLSHIT.... split rims arent the only danger... I have seen a modern truck/tire/rim launched 50 ft in the air before, it was NOT a split rim....
DeleteHad one of the Spec 4s in the motor pool at 2/7 Inf (3rd ID) get the top of his head taken off when a split rim from a 5 ton went. He was in a hurry on a Friday afternoon and didn’t want to take the time to use the tire cage. There, but for the grace of God….
DeleteRemember one guy where the rim popped off and struck his head. Cracked his skull.
ReplyDeleteDoesn't matter whether it's a split rim or not -- There's the equivalent potential energy of a couple sticks of dynamite in that tire. If the bead is bent or there's a manufacturer's defect or there's hidden damage, you really don't want to be on the receiving end of what could happen.
ReplyDeleteSo, if the tire were to let go, he's ensuring that he won't even move with the force of the blast wave, so he'll take the full force of it all to his face, his back and his neck. /smart/
-- Davis.P
heh! He might as well get under it.
DeleteI worked at the Cities Service Gas Station on the NJ turnpike back in 1963-65. We never had a tire cage. All truck tires back then were split rims. Another guy I worked with was filling a tire just like the yo yo in the pic. Apparently he didn't seat the ring right and it let go about 10 seconds after he backed away from it. If you're ever on the NJ turnpike, the gas station is still there on the north bound side between exit 7 and 7A. Should you go into the parking lot in front of the garage bays, there's an open bay. The marks of the ring in the concrete ceiling are still there.
ReplyDeleteWheels on Big Jets are Alcoa Forged-Aluminum Tie-Bolt Rims with 32-Ply (or more) Tires pumped up to 210 PSI with Nitrogen. Every Tire Change and you Inspected the Rims and Bolt-Holes with an Electrical Eddy-Current Tester to look for Cracks. The Wheel Tie-Bolts and Nuts got Magnaflux Inspected every 2nd or 3rd Change. We never used a "Tire Cage", as that would just be More Shrapnel if the Wheel failed. I have a 50-Foot Hose with the Gauge on one end, and the Locking Chuck on the other. Never had one Blow, by being excessively Critical when Inspecting and Assembling them.
ReplyDeletewHy did yOu wRitE witH liKe tHaT??
DeleteAfter watching dozens of videos over the years of people getting blowed up from truck tires, I'd say he was pretty smukin' fart.
ReplyDeleteIMHO, he will probably be dead or catastrophically injured if that tire pops, even with the cage. Isn't the tire supposed to go in the cage? I'm ignorant on these things.
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Yup.
DeleteA Les Schwab guy was called to service a big rig tire on I-80 near my home a few years back. The wheel was very warm, as the truck had just come down over Donner Pass. The service guy successfully repaired the flat and inflated the tire using a safety cage, but when he was in the process of mounting the tire and aluminum wheel back on the truck the very warm wheel had shrunk enough that it allowed the tire to jump the bead and explode in his face. He was killed instantly.
ReplyDeleteIf you're familiar with Alcoa aluminum wheels you're aware of how little bead surface there is to hold a tire under normal circumstances, let alone it that bead diameter shrinks due to cooling.
This accident was one for the books. I have a friend whose profession was changing and installing truck tires and he told me he had never heard of a case like this happening before.
Then maybe you can answer my question. How come you see a lot of semis carrying an unmounted tire behind the cab?
DeleteI can't answer that question, rick. I was a local guy who packed his own spare tire and wheel and was home every night to swap it out if I had a flat that day.
DeleteYou might ask a friendly long haul trucker at your nearest truck stop about that.
Hey, rickn8or- I just saw your question about split rims and I can tell you that my local tire shop won't touch them because they have no one that has ever worked on them. So I have a feeling there may be shops that will change them but you probably have to look around to find one.
DeleteWhat brought it to my attention was a Freiberger and Finnegan "Roadkill" series ("Stubby Bob" that featured an elderly Ford truck that needed new tires. The tires were no problem, but they had to scour the Georgia countryside to find someone to mount them that wasn't tethered to an oxygen tank.
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