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Friday, February 17, 2023
Wiping Out Our Technology Base - What Happens If An Event Such As.....
It’s one or two years after an EMP attack and you are safely tucked away in your retreat somewhere in the middle of nowhere. Your storage foods have mostly been used and your high tech electronics is useless. The really bad stuff is mostly past. Now it’s try to stay fed and alive and pray that civilization as you know it is coming back. You’re going to have to work your environment to live. Ever wonder what life might be like? What would it really be like to have no running water, electricity, sewer, newspaper or Internet? No supermarket or fire department close at hand?
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The novel One Second After describes this situation pretty well.
ReplyDeleteAnother great book (actually it's a series of books), first one is "Dies the Fire"; electricity and gunpowder all the sudden stop working and there's no explanation. Sucks to be on an airplane or in an elevators when it occurs.
DeleteBeing in an airplane worked out pretty well for Mike Havel, but your point is valid. Great series and so is the “Island in the Sea of Time” trilogy, starting from the same timeline.
DeleteBingo. Life would do a 180 degree turn on a dime. Learn to live without electricity. It can be done. My parents spent a good portion of their lives living without electricity on the frozen Tundra of North Dakota. Even as a child in the 1960’s and early 70’s we only had one small freezer. My mother used to can 100 broilers, whole hogs and beef and several hundred quarts of veggies and Jan’s etc. That was all accomplished while running the lunch counter at our hometown Woolworth’s store. Mom and Dad were children of the depression and the WWII era. They raised six children and we have scattered far and wide across the western US but everyone of us gardens even those in the burbs.
DeletePrior to One Second After was Alas Babylon (pre-electronics) Florida
DeleteAlas Babylon is excellent. Another good one is The Last Ship. ( Novel, not TV series.)
DeleteIf you want to experience this 1st hand, vacation in a 3rd world country and experience what it is like with unreliable sporadic power, little choice of foods you can cook at home and other choices.
ReplyDeleteDoesn't sound like fun ? I agree, but this is OTJT for shit hit the fan. Not supposed to be fun. Better to see what it is like and prepare while you can, vs. getting surprised when it happnes here for real.
An EMP isn't a credible threat. The time gap between an EMP threat and global thermonuclear war will be measured in milliseconds. Also, the EMP effect has been observed, but early atmospheric bomb tests proved unreliable to create and control one. So the attacker would be better off to just blow the enemy to smithereens, as this would be comparatively reliable.
ReplyDeleteThe Sun's activities can result in what many would consider an EMP, try NASA and Suspicious Observer.org
Delete"An EMP isn't a credible threat"
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Little House On The Prairie is on right after Koolaid Cannabil Zombies and FJB?
ReplyDeleteMy survival plan: Be as close as possible to ground zero. OK watch a coupla day after movies. Survivalists only, pls.
ReplyDeleteI'm just to the west of DC. When the big one hits my last words will be: "Oh sh..."
DeleteIn the 1800s there were factories and manufacturing. Simple goods could be had at general stores. There was trade and trade goods. After an event shuts down America's grid there will be absolutely no manufacturing and no replacements for anything....for years, if ever. A TEOTWAWKI event will be unprecedented and comparing it to the 1890s is specious and grossly inaccurate.
ReplyDeleteYep. Everyone forgets the axe, saw, lanterns and kerosene (mentioned in article) had to come from infrastructure that will not exist. Nor do we have the knowledge, skill base to build it anymore. Not in sufficient quantity.
DeleteSteve S6
I don't need to worry. Too old to survive the bad times unless Murphy takes a break. Luck will have more to do with survival than preparedness: "Got my go-bag ready and all the supplies I need. I only need to run into the city for just a few more ... oops." Like just a quick visit to relatives in that out-of-the-way town of New Palestine (which seems to be already disappearing from the news)
ReplyDeleteCarrington event could be interesting too; solar cycle has been hot lately.
ReplyDeleteI live mobile anyway, so I have an edge in experience and flexibility, but I keep looking at LA and get the cold shivers.
Another good read is Alas, Babylon by Frank Herbert.
Alas Babylon was written by Pat Frank. It was geared to a nuclear conflict in the late 50's-early 60's. It is still very relevant in terms of surviving in an environment when you are not that close to the action. Read it. And then make sure you mark well what mistakes the protagonist made. It is very sobering.
DeleteLightning Fall by Bill Quick
ReplyDeleteIf such an event happened and we were really, really lucky we'd find ourselves living James Howard Kunstler's World by Hand series of books.
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