Via WiscoDave, this raid is simply horrendous, both in its justification and execution. First, for all we know there was never a warrant. Following the constitution isn’t an option – it wasn’t a justification for the SWAT team member to point into the sky and tell the home owners that a warrant existed somewhere with somebody else. Without presenting a warrant, they had no right to be there at all. You can tell that the team knows this and sort of stood around looking all confused in the middle of rolling up, right after they unnecessarily busted down doors to the property.
Next up, observe their equipment. One has NODs and a battering ram. The next one has a grenade launcher (presumably for gas) + NODs, combined with an EOTech sitting on top of his weapon (and if I’m not mistaken, no Peq15). Finally, the third one has NODs, but I can’t tell if he has a Peq15 on that gun.
This is in the middle of the day. They have NODs. In the middle of the day. And if the raid was so dangerous that they needed a SWAT team to pull it off, why do they have the time to stand around jawing with the victims of this absurdity?
SWAT is the worst. They get fun toys to play with, no supervision, and they are told they are the "Elite". They get to play dress up with all sorts of fun gear, but don't use much logic when choosing their "Tactical" gear, not understanding that you choose the gear for the tactics you will be using that mission...thus the NVG in broad daylight.
ReplyDeleteI’m cool if it were some pAntifa dbags.
ReplyDeleteAnd this is the Illinois that just passed a "law" banning most modern semi-auto rifles.
ReplyDeleteI have "law" in quotes because a law which is in contravention of the Constitution is no law at all.
Yes, I am an idiot. I still believe, against all evidence, that the Constitution is the founding and controlling document of the United States of America. Which I believe still exists in the agreement of its' citizens to be bound thereby, regardless of the tyrants who now pretend to the seats of government.
But hey, this is Illinois. The law of Force Majure is the only law that applies, and these over-armed, illegal, clowns exemplify that principle.
John in Indy
LEO/DA/DoJ are the enemies of liberty given their "respeck muh ah-thortee" stance.
ReplyDeleteEveryone is the enemy to those Brownshirts.
Real 4-D chess is conditioning conservatives to call communists fascists, so that they never gravitate toward the one ideology that can stop them.
DeleteChoices are few. Comply and roll the dice with the courts. Discuss with LEO. Or...
ReplyDeleteIt's all about the "optics", the optics of intimidation.
ReplyDelete- WDS
They want to dress up and play soldier? Send 'em to Ukraine.
ReplyDeleteSteve S6
I was told once by an ex-NJ State Trooper that there are 3 types of people that become cops. 1st, 1%, is the guy who thinks he can help society. 2nd, 49% the guy that gets off with the badge and gun and bullying and 3rd, 50% the idiot that can't do anything else.
ReplyDeleteCops, today, are not the public's friend. A large portion of today's police officers are ex-military who saw duty in the sand and who looks at everyone as an enemy. They're going to and will do anything to keep the paycheck coming in. I feel sorry for the cop that believes in the Constitution because sooner of later he's going to have to make a major decision.
Close. There is a lot of overlap, and the first group doesn't last long.
DeleteOkay, I give up. What's a "NOD"?
ReplyDeleteIt's a small pet peeve of mine. Not everyone is privy to the meaning of your acronyms so how about spelling it out at least the first time.
Night Optical Device. It's that thingie on top of their helmets allowing them to see in the dark.
DeleteGoogle can be your friend. A pet peeve of mine is when people don't make the effort to try and figure things out for themselves and leave comments blaming everyone else for their lack of knowledge when the reason is in their mirror.
DeleteThanks wirecutter for the information on the NOD acronym. Many times when I come across articles with too many acronyms and no definitions, I will just pass over the article. In this case I had an idea what a nod likely was, but after looking it up on Google I thought it was his "notice of discharge" he received for violating citizens rights.
DeleteBetween my junior and senior years of high school, I spent a week at the Michigan State Police Academy, in East Lansing, doing the things that a State Trooper would do for their first week of training. It was a program for kids who were considering their goals in life, with the encouragement for them to consider the MSP as one option. I had a blast, and actually learned a lot during the super fast week of training.
ReplyDeleteIt was a blast, doing the things that the cops in training did, from PT every morning followed by breakfast and then inspections of our rooms, which were shared with one other trainee. We had both males and females, with the females on the top floor. We were not allowed to use the elevators, only the stairs. And no males on the top floor, of course. That rule was one that never broken, although a few guys tried to make plans to do a sort of raid on the girls floor. I don't recall exactly what happened but the instructors got wind of it, and it was stopped before it even started. It seems like the entire group of us, male and female, got extra PT the next morning for the actions of 4-5 guys.
There were 2 fantastic things that came from my week in that "boot camp". First, I learned so very much, about not just police work and their legalities and their actions, but I also got my first time shooting a handgun then. They were still using the .38 special revolvers, and it was simply putting it, a blast, no pun intended. There many kids like me, who got their first experience in shooting a handgun. Most of them had never shot any gun of any kind. Myself, I was well accustomed to shooting long guns due to small game hunting with my friends.
The other thing that I got from my time at the State Police Academy was the fact that I went in June, and football conditioning began in August for us. And I not only got in shape, but due to my work ethic at the time, I kept on working and entered the first year ever that I was in shape of my life, before even starting training camp for football. As one of the captains, it was a good thing, since I could not only keep up with everyone, but also was able to help those who were struggling a bit.
There were a few highlights during the week, with learning to shoot a pistol being a big one. But also learning how to not only work together as a team, on different challenges, and realizing that I was a leadership type also was a big deal to learn at such a young age.
While I never entered the State Police training class, I don't think of my time there as a waste, as I learned so much, especially how to work together with a group to accomplish a goal, while helping to lead, but not as an asshole, like I saw with many employers in my life. It made me able to do pretty complicated jobs with molten steel, without supervision, due to my not only knowing how to do the jobs, but being self motivated. A lot of that came from both my time spent there, but also time spent at my mom's elbow, watching while she nailed by hand pallets at my great uncle's crate mill. I got my work ethic from my mom, and my character from my dad. I miss them both, but I feel them in my heart, and in my very soul. For all of these things, I consider myself one of the luckiest people to ever live.
Not to really knock your experience - and I'm sure it wasn't a waste - but you make it sound like all you did was spend your time doing calisthenics - and you got to shoot a pistol ... once?
DeleteCops and pistols.....Yeah, there are cops that can shoot a pistol and some can shoot a rifle but the vast majority, can't. I spent several years as the qualification officer at our local gun club, 1500 members. I can't tell you how many cops and state troopers couldn't put 10 shots on a 2'x2' target at 50 feet. We had the local twp police force come to our club to ask to use one of our ranges for training at night. We allowed them, ONCE! They had to rebuild the range or face a lawsuit for damages.
ReplyDeleteI'm reminded of a story about a Philadelphia cop that had his gun taken from him during a fight. The only reason the cop didn't die was when the gun was turned on him, it didn't work.